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3 hours ago, Nanker said:

Great topic. What I recommend they do is be forthright and honest and have their primary between an ass, a skunk, a worm, a snake, and a badger. 

 

I'd go with the badger every time.

 

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2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

It'll be a big field: 

 

Definitely Running

Clinton (will run again if not otherwise occupied)

Sanders (will run again - can't win)

Harris (leader out the gate - likely to get the nom or be the VP of an outsider)

Booker (won't win, will be laughed out of the race)

Warren (won't win, earlier than most expect exit)

Avanatti (won't win, early exit)

Cuomo (won't win)

Bloomberg (won't win)

Chris Murphy (won't win, early exit)

Holder (won't win, might be otherwise occupied)

Gillibrand (won't win, early exit)

Biden (won't win, might be otherwise occupied)

Patrick from Mass (won't win, early exit)

Landrieu (won't win, early exit)

 

Outside shot:

Iger (can't win national, might win nom)

 

no Kennedy?

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4 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Whoever it ends up being, they are a sacrificial lamb ala Bob Dole. I do not think this is a Bill Clinton case (where Bush's popularity collapsed after being a record high, and a semi-reasonable third-party candidate showed up to split the vote).

 

I very easily see a 3rd party candidate making a major push; not sure any conservative has the audacity to do so.  But, pray that someone like Bernie Sanders enters the race as a 3rd party candidate.

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2 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  A high profile office is necessary in my mind for Chelsea to be taken seriously by most Dems as a POTUS nominee.  The problem is her reputation is that she is dumb as a box of rocks and lacks the Clinton cunning so I have issues that she could beat a somewhat proficient opponent.

Hillary never was that cunning and neither was Webb Hubbell.

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32 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

I very easily see a 3rd party candidate making a major push; not sure any conservative has the audacity to do so.  But, pray that someone like Bernie Sanders enters the race as a 3rd party candidate.


Well if Bernie runs third-party that makes the D even more of a sacrificial lamb, not less of one.

I cannot believe a man that is 77 and looks 97 has a young-following. I've always scratched my head over that. Sure student loans, but he's as old as their grandfather... no great-grandfather, so ?‍♀️

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7 hours ago, Magox said:

If Bernie were to win it he'd probably choose Kamala Harris to be his running mate.  Or Eric Holder.  He would need African American turnout to be pretty high and crazy uncle Bernie doesnt jazz up that part of the electorate.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was Spike Lee in today's political environment.

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3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

It'll be a big field: 

 

Definitely Running

Clinton (will run again if not otherwise occupied)

Sanders (will run again - can't win)

Harris (leader out the gate - likely to get the nom or be the VP of an outsider)

Booker (won't win, will be laughed out of the race)

Warren (won't win, earlier than most expect exit)

Avanatti (won't win, early exit)

Cuomo (won't win)

Bloomberg (won't win)

Chris Murphy (won't win, early exit)

Holder (won't win, might be otherwise occupied)

Gillibrand (won't win, early exit)

Biden (won't win, might be otherwise occupied)

Patrick from Mass (won't win, early exit)

Landrieu (won't win, early exit)

 

Outside shot:

Iger (can't win national, might win nom)

 

You need to be careful what you post.  Your credibility 'round these parts is pretty damn high so when you top your list with Hillary, it's almost a guarantee and that is a ghastly thought. 

 

Let's hope the whole list runs.  The primary season will be a food fight for the ages. 

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

You need to be careful what you post.  Your credibility 'round these parts is pretty damn high so when you top your list with Hillary, it's almost a guarantee and that is a ghastly thought. 

 

Let's hope the whole list runs.  The primary season will be a food fight for the ages. 

 

 

 

 

  It would be nice if "otherwise occupied" meant prison for Hillary but I think that fire has just about died out.

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38 minutes ago, The_Dude said:

Biden or Booker is my guess. 

 

Eh, I'd say Biden or Lieawatha. Booker is going to be exposed as a colossal dumbass during debates. Especially if anyone pushes him on his fake Spartacus nonsense.

 

I'm hoping for Uncle Joe. The human gaffe machine vs. The cheeto-dust golem will be fantastic television.

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9 hours ago, Gavin in Va Beach said:

Some Dems are starting to hype up our former governor and Clinton pal Terry McCauliffe as a 2020 contender. He's got quite a few scandals surrounding him, going back to Global Crossing, but like the Clinton's always seems to come away without anyone challenging him on anything. He's always struck me as an amiable dunce who keeps lucking into one situation after another then escaping it before it starts to stink. If the media gets behind him who knows.

 

McCauliffe always struck me as a sleazy career political insider

2 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

I very easily see a 3rd party candidate making a major push; not sure any conservative has the audacity to do so.  But, pray that someone like Bernie Sanders enters the race as a 3rd party candidate.

 

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


Well if Bernie runs third-party that makes the D even more of a sacrificial lamb, not less of one.
 

 

If there's a 3rd party challenge, it will come from Nanny Bloomberg

8 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

Neither would align themselves to Sanders.  They would want their own identity and wait until 2024 when there is a clear field.  There is almost no way Trump doesn't win 2020.  A year ago I'd be displeased and almost scared by that fact. Now, it's abundantly clear that not only have the Democrats lost their way but Trump is doing fairly well and at this point has earned reelection. Can't wait until Trump conspired with Eritrea allegations begin 

 

don't be so sure of Trump and the Republicans ability to not shoot themselves in the foot sometime in the next 25 months

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3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


Well if Bernie runs third-party that makes the D even more of a sacrificial lamb, not less of one.

I cannot believe a man that is 77 and looks 97 has a young-following. I've always scratched my head over that. Sure student loans, but he's as old as their grandfather... no great-grandfather, so ?‍♀️

He appeals to young people who are want to feel unique and independent. Interestingly, his  primary draw, at least for a large portion of them, isn't ideological. It's just that he's outside the mainstream. There is a considerable amount of overlap between those who support him and those who support Ron Paul, even though their core political philosophies are diametrically opposed to each other. 

 

Also, young people tend to be passionate, uninformed, and idealistic, which is very fertile ground for socialists.

2 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

Eh, I'd say Biden or Lieawatha. Booker is going to be exposed as a colossal dumbass during debates. Especially if anyone pushes him on his fake Spartacus nonsense.

 

I'm hoping for Uncle Joe. The human gaffe machine vs. The cheeto-dust golem will be fantastic television.

I wish there was a way to get all conservatives to go around telling every liberal they know things like "I would vote for a Democrat if they nominated someone who's moderate and reasonable, like Cory Booker."

 

It would be the most entertaining Presidential race ever.

 

Spartacus 2020!!!

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2 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

Eh, I'd say Biden or Lieawatha. Booker is going to be exposed as a colossal dumbass during debates. Especially if anyone pushes him on his fake Spartacus nonsense.

 

I'm hoping for Uncle Joe. The human gaffe machine vs. The cheeto-dust golem will be fantastic television.

 

Who doesn’t love Biden memes?! Creepy Uncle Joe!

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4 hours ago, /dev/null said:

 

McCauliffe always struck me as a sleazy career political insider

 

 

If there's a 3rd party challenge, it will come from Nanny Bloomberg

 

don't be so sure of Trump and the Republicans ability to not shoot themselves in the foot sometime in the next 25 months

 

You got that right. I can even see the republicans do everything right (barely) and also see the economy cycle down, setting up a 2020 battle. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, /dev/null said:

 

don't be so sure of Trump and the Republicans ability to not shoot themselves in the foot sometime in the next 25 months

 

It's not that, as much as no matter what the Republicans do, I can't imagine the Democrats responding with anything other than "Hold my beer..."

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