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5 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

What makes you think we don't do that already?

 

 

https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-brother-is-watching-you-pervasive-surveillance-under-obama/14249

 

This was what we were doing 10 years ago.

 

And this afternoon Attorney General Barr suggested Americans should accept Government backdoors into encryption because you know, national security and all.  besides, all you're doing is consumer stuff, it's not like you're protecting nuclear codes or something

 

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/23/william-barr-consumers-security-risks-backdoors/

 

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1 hour ago, /dev/null said:

 

And this afternoon Attorney General Barr suggested Americans should accept Government backdoors into encryption because you know, national security and all.  besides, all you're doing is consumer stuff, it's not like you're protecting nuclear codes or something

 

https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/23/william-barr-consumers-security-risks-backdoors/

 

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Of course.  I leave the back door to my house unlocked all the time, so the police can come and go as they please.  It's not like I'm protecting nuclear bombs or anything.  And criminals always use the front door.

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Google suspends engineer for exposing 'political bias'

Expects to be fired for asserting company 'takes sides in elections'
 

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Greg Coppola announced the move on a GoFundMe page he set up in which he states he “will probably be fired for an interview expressing concern that big tech is taking sides in elections.”
 

“If raised, I will use this money to spend four months publishing content about issues in politics and technology,” he writes.
 

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On 7/25/2019 at 5:04 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:

Google suspends engineer for exposing 'political bias'

Expects to be fired for asserting company 'takes sides in elections'
 

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Greg Coppola announced the move on a GoFundMe page he set up in which he states he “will probably be fired for an interview expressing concern that big tech is taking sides in elections.”
 

“If raised, I will use this money to spend four months publishing content about issues in politics and technology,” he writes.
 

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I have an idea for Greg if he gets fired from Google, GET A JOB instead of high tech pan handling in order to go on a 4 month navel gazing exersize.

 

Often losing a job can open up opportunities for a better job.

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On 7/25/2019 at 6:04 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:

Google suspends engineer for exposing 'political bias'

Expects to be fired for asserting company 'takes sides in elections'
 

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Greg Coppola announced the move on a GoFundMe page he set up in which he states he “will probably be fired for an interview expressing concern that big tech is taking sides in elections.”
 

“If raised, I will use this money to spend four months publishing content about issues in politics and technology,” he writes.
 

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33 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I have an idea for Greg if he gets fired from Google, GET A JOB instead of high tech pan handling in order to go on a 4 month navel gazing exersize.

 

Often losing a job can open up opportunities for a better job.

I guess you can't just tell him to learn to code.

 

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I'm not sure if your experience would be different, but my was kind of eye opening.............

 

I went to punch in "Cocaine Mitch" for a picture for another thread.

 

 

I kept waiting for it to "pop up" as I typed it out, but no, I had to spell the whole phrase out before I got a response.

 

I decided to try "Moscow Mitch"  and that phrase was suggested by the time I got to M,o,s.

 

Not Moscow first, mind you, but Moscow Mitch.

 

 

Thanks Google.

 

 

 

 

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I saw something on Citizens United on the web and wanted to google their web site to see what their mission statement was.  just typed in Citizens United. What cane up was at least there pages of  web sites against them.  Gave up.  More sighs of google's bias.

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3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


Follow-up: (he's going to appeal)
 

 

 

The comments are hilarious. Yeah, he was suspended for "asking hard questions", not because he acted like an unprofessional buffoon and tried to provoke a physical confrontation with a guest.

 

Secondary LOL to the idiots who demand that the White House Press Corps stop covering the White House for a month in "protest".

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On 8/1/2019 at 10:00 AM, Wacka said:

I saw something on Citizens United on the web and wanted to google their web site to see what their mission statement was.  just typed in Citizens United. What cane up was at least there pages of  web sites against them.  Gave up.  More sighs of google's bias.

It was the fourth link down on the first page.

 

http://www.citizensunited.org/

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COLLUSION: Former Google Engineer Says Google Will Try to Prevent Trump’s Reelection. 

 

“After the 2016 election, Google’s then-head of multicultural marketing bragged about attempting to boost Latino turnout, hoping it would help Hillary Clinton. Robert Epstein, a Ph.D. psychologist who studies search engine manipulation effects, found that Google’s bias can explain Clinton’s popular vote margin of victory.

 

A Project Veritas video showed that Google’s ‘fairness’ project is intended to prevent another 2016. Last month, a Google engineer said the company’s search results are intentionally biased against Trump.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

POLITICAL TENSION AT GOOGLE IS ONLY GETTING WORSE: 

 

Another former engineer has alleged that the company fired him over his political beliefs. 

 

Which is illegal under California law.

 
 
 
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On 8/3/2019 at 11:47 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

POLITICAL TENSION AT GOOGLE IS ONLY GETTING WORSE: 

 

Another former engineer has alleged that the company fired him over his political beliefs. 

 

Which is illegal under California law.

 
 
 
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If he's a Republican, then he's a white supremacist, and they fired him for supporting terrorism, which is not illegal under CA law.

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White House drafting executive order to tackle Silicon Valley’s alleged anti-conservative bias
 

The White House is circulating drafts of a proposed executive order that would address allegations of anti-conservative bias by social media companies, according to a White House official and two other people familiar with the matter — a month after President Donald Trump pledged to explore "all regulatory and legislative solutions" on the issue.
 

None of the three would describe the contents of the order, which one person cautioned has already taken many different forms and remains in flux. But its existence, and the deliberations surrounding it, are evidence that the administration is taking a serious look at wielding the federal government’s power against Silicon Valley.
 

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Another retrospective of regulations' unintended consequences.

 

 

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Section 230 Was Supposed to Make the Internet a Better Place. It Failed

A tiny federal statute in 1996 transformed the web into a wildly lucrative business, and became Big Tech’s favorite liability shield. It’s now under attack from all sides.

 

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Perhaps it was time, Cruz rejoined, for Congress to revisit Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act—a slim and powerful law, cherished in Silicon Valley, that shields internet companies from liability for most of the material their users post.

 
Back in 1995, when the CDA was conceived, Section 230 enjoyed bipartisan support from members of Congress, who believed that tech companies would do a better job at moderating the internet than federal regulators. But a growing number of hostile lawmakers are now criticizing Big Tech’s safe harbor. Cruz, a Texas Republican, and other conservatives have accused major internet platforms of suppressing their viewpoints, arguing that the spirit of Section 230 is predicated on the companies remaining politically neutral. Democrats call that nonsense; still, liberals have found reasons to dislike the law, namely their belief that tech businesses have too often used it to ignore the collateral damage of their users’ bad behavior.
 
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1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

I don't like Twitter choosing sides.  But I don't like pretending the government is neutral and unbiased, either.

 

I fully admit to being at a loss as to how to fix the situation. Breaking up companies seems like it won't work, having a government censor/arbitrator seems problematic... No idea what the fix is.

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16 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I fully admit to being at a loss as to how to fix the situation. Breaking up companies seems like it won't work, having a government censor/arbitrator seems problematic... No idea what the fix is.

 

Pass legislation declaring social media platforms to be the public square as far as speech and expression go, and encourage the various platforms to allow individuals broad filter tools to choose not to listen to ideas they don’t like, should they choose not to.

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32 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I fully admit to being at a loss as to how to fix the situation. Breaking up companies seems like it won't work, having a government censor/arbitrator seems problematic... No idea what the fix is.

 

The unfortunate reality is that Twitter, Facebook, etc. have made their bed by engaging in political discriminatory practices. Now they're going to get regulated.

 

They'll be damned lucky if they don't eventually lose some (if not all) of their legal protections under the DMCA.

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2 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

The unfortunate reality is that Twitter, Facebook, etc. have made their bed by engaging in political discriminatory practices. Now they're going to get regulated.

 

They'll be damned lucky if they don't eventually lose some (if not all) of their legal protections under the DMCA.

 

Well, the Democrats have made the argument that social media is a critical electoral infrastructure, so they shouldn't be surprised when there's a backlash to social media censuring conservative campaigns.  

 

Stupidity, for once, has consequences.

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18 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Pass legislation declaring social media platforms to be the public square as far as speech and expression go, and encourage the various platforms to allow individuals broad filter tools to choose not to listen to ideas they don’t like, should they choose not to.

 

This is a terrible idea. You are encouraging people to put on blinders and follow, listen and learn from only those with like ideas?  

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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

This is a terrible idea. You are encouraging people to put on blinders and follow, listen and learn from only those with like ideas?  

 

Not at all.  

 

What I’m saying is that there should be a functional “ignore” feature, much like this site has, with more functionality because the user base is larger.

 

Essentially the web equivalent of “changing the channel” or “canceling the newspaper subscription”.

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...not sure how you could ever legislate against the electronics age politicization and directional leanings......1st Amendment rights have ben woefully strained from what our forefathers EVER intended....it has become a vague shield for crossing the original line into twisted protectionisms....the parameters of the initial intent are truly being tested...... 

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40 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Not at all.  

 

What I’m saying is that there should be a functional “ignore” feature, much like this site has, with more functionality because the user base is larger.

 

Essentially the web equivalent of “changing the channel” or “canceling the newspaper subscription”.

 

Why would I, or anyone with an open mind, want to filter out 100% of the content of a site because you don’t “like” some of their content. Unless I’m misunderstanding the functionality you’re suggesting. 

 

Ans the web had a “change the channel” feature. It’s calls the “back button”. 

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13 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Why would I, or anyone with an open mind, want to filter out 100% of the content of a site because you don’t “like” some of their content. Unless I’m misunderstanding the functionality you’re suggesting. 

 

Ans the web had a “change the channel” feature. It’s calls the “back button”. 

 

Do you watch CNN?  FoxNews?  MSNBC?

 

Do you enjoy interacting with internet trolls?

 

Do you find value in positions staked out by the Klu Klux Klan or Antifa?

 

You might.  

 

Others might not.

 

A right to speak is not a right to make others choose to listen.

 

(edit:  the broader “you”, not meaning to imply that you find value in any of those things)

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2 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Do you watch CNN?  FoxNews?  MSNBC?

 

Do you enjoy interacting with internet trolls?

 

Do you find value in positions staked out by the Klu Klux Klan or Antifa?

 

You might.  

 

Others might not.

 

A right to speak is not a right to make others choose to listen.

 

(edit:  the broader “you”, not meaning to imply that you find value in any of those things)

 

I just feel allowing people to be more closed minded is not a good thing.  Make others choose to listen? Holy crappy dude. What kind of whacky double speak is that? 

 

Needing a filter to protect you from ideas that you may not like in my mind is the definition of a snowflake. A closed minded snowflake. 

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Here’s what the gov can do to fix social media:

 

- remove the autoplay feature from YouTube,

- end infinite scrolling on Twitter and Facebook feeds,

- limit scrolling time to three-minute sessions,

- set default limits on the use of platforms to 30 minutes a day, 

- outlaw Snapchat streaks (rewards for consecutive days of contact with friends) and most “gamification” (badges, rewards) for any online service,

- require an FTC report to Congress describing how internet companies “interfere with free choices of individuals” by “exploiting human psychology and brain physiology.” 

 

Get r done. 

 

 

 

 

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58 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

Here’s what the gov can do to fix social media:

 

- remove the autoplay feature from YouTube,

- end infinite scrolling on Twitter and Facebook feeds,

- limit scrolling time to three-minute sessions,

- set default limits on the use of platforms to 30 minutes a day, 

- outlaw Snapchat streaks (rewards for consecutive days of contact with friends) and most “gamification” (badges, rewards) for any online service,

- require an FTC report to Congress describing how internet companies “interfere with free choices of individuals” by “exploiting human psychology and brain physiology.” 

 

Get r done. 

 

 

 

 

 

While they're at it, maybe they can regulate loot boxes so all players get a minimum number of sweet l3wtz.  And membership of a raid guarantees a minimum number of Epic and Legendary items

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