Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Dawkins - Teller - Groy - Miller - Mills deserves to be the starting OL from what I see. Anyone disagree? Ducasse is the most unathletic lineman on the team. Horrible technique. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Ducasse was terrible last night. He looked lost. I would love to see Teller start over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 He's trash. Either he gets beat by his man or he takes a penalty. They really need to upgrade at this position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Dawkins - Teller - Groy - Miller - Mills deserves to be the starting OL from what I see. Anyone disagree? Ducasse is the most unathletic lineman on the team. Horrible technique. he really is bad...I concur with your lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Dude BLOWS. Can’t believe he’s in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 He really is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Ha!? Here we go again. Ducasse Hate ‘18; Thread #1 We all believe he’s substandard and have since McDermott benched Miller last preseason, while pontificating his effectiveness. Coach still believes he’s a starting-worthy OL. If he’s right and we’re all wrong, then to prove it, somebody has to step in or up and overwhelm. im hoping Teller takes the position like a brute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davejr511 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I'm sick to my stomach that this guy is still on the team. He is horrible! You have to put a lot of the blame on O-line coach Juan Castillo. I'm not a fan of Castillo. How do you take a team that has been ranked #1 in rushing for 2 years to out of the top 5? Plus we had the same oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Dawkins - Teller - Groy - Miller - Mills deserves to be the starting OL from what I see. Anyone disagree? Ducasse is the most unathletic lineman on the team. Horrible technique. Ducasse is okay in small spaces, but he's awful on the second level - I agree about the athleticism. Bodine had a bad day as well, and I think pairing them is regrettable. For the first 9 plays, the best offensive lineman was ... Mills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Not a big fan of Ducasse, but the holding call on him was while a Browns player had his hands in his facemask, with no penalty on them. Wish someone else, like Teller, would step up at Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Duckass is mauler, according to Castillo and they like him in the run game. Apparently they neglect to mention it isn’t 1980 and pass protection is a critical skill for an interior OL. He doesn’t move his feet laterally but relies on his strength to win, hence the holding penalties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Dawkins wasn't exactly stellar last night in his matchup with Myles Garrett to put things mildly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Duckass is mauler, according to Castillo and they like him in the run game. Apparently they neglect to mention it isn’t 1980 and pass protection is a critical skill for an interior OL. He doesn’t move his feet laterally but relies on his strength to win, hence the holding penalties. Yeah. Can't move his feet. Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Dawkins wasn't exactly stellar last night in his matchup with Myles Garrett to put things mildly. He did lose one play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 nepotism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: Dawkins - Teller - Groy - Miller - Mills deserves to be the starting OL from what I see. Anyone disagree? Ducasse is the most unathletic lineman on the team. Horrible technique. Have to disagree on Mills. I don't think another team would sign him for anything. He sucks. Wonder if McD will put him on suicide watch the night bedore the Chargers come too town? It will not be pretty.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Dawkins’ got bulldozed resulting in McCarron’s injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: Have to disagree on Mills. I don't think another team would sign him for anything. He sucks. Wonder if McD will put him on suicide watch the night bedore the Chargers come too town? It will not be pretty.... Who should start over Mills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Yeah. Can't move his feet. He did lose one play. One play that took out the starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Sky Diver said: Dawkins’ got bulldozed resulting in McCarron’s injury. Dawkins set way to deep. Easy money for someone like Garrett. Easily corrected. 1 minute ago, Sky Diver said: One play that took out the starting QB. Unfortunate. Dawkins is the least of our worries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Who should start over Mills? Exactly. The o-line suffers from severe neglect. They knew this after the season ended. Would anyone want to put a rokkie Q-back behind that O-line? Even Clay forgot how too block and he's a TE. Edited August 18, 2018 by Best Player Available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: Dawkins set way to deep. Easy money for someone like Garrett. Easily corrected. His screw up took out the starting QB, likely for 8 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, Sky Diver said: His screw up took out the starting QB, likely for 8 weeks. He got beat. Hasn't happened often. All LTs get beat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 There's a reason why Ducasse rode the pine in his previous NFL stops except when the starters ahead of him were injured. He's NEVER been very good, no matter what the statboys at PFF and their questionable methodology for rating OLers and OL performance claim. That he's now playing next to Bodine, who is easily a downgrade from Wood at C, exposes more of his weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: His screw up took out the starting QB, likely for 8 weeks. I gut not be such a bad thing after all? in dawkins’ defense, Myles Garrett is a Monster. He’s going to do that to people regardless of how good the LT is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The real question is when/if the coaching staff is going to see the obvious as well. I’ve kept an eye on Teller during both games and he clearly knows what he’s doing out there. They can mess around for the next two weeks but come time for the Opener I’m trusting the Process will put the best five out there. 9 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: His screw up took out the starting QB, likely for 8 weeks. Give me a break. That was nothing more than a routine Sack. Dawkins didn’t whiff on Garrett. McCarron didn’t get pancaked. Nothing to see there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The real question is when/if the coaching staff is going to see the obvious as well. I’ve kept an eye on Teller during both games and he clearly knows what he’s doing out there. They can mess around for the next two weeks but come time for the Opener I’m trusting the Process will put the best five out there. Give me a break. That was nothing more than a routine Sack. Dawkins didn’t whiff on Garrett. McCarron didn’t get pancaked. Nothing to see there. Correct, he didn’t wiff. He got bulldozed. Edited August 18, 2018 by Sky Diver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, CDogg20 said: Ducasse was terrible last night. He looked lost. I would love to see Teller start over him. He was all last season too...the guy is beyond bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Dawkins’ got bulldozed resulting in McCarron’s injury. I'm sure Bills fans noticed that the announcers weren't talking about how brilliant Dabol was in having the RB/TE chip on DE. Note again that 88 completely whiffs on Myles Garrett. Doesn't mean that Dawkins didn't get owned. Bad play across the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Correct, he didn’t wiff. He got bulldozed. Not at all, he set too deep. Off balance. He was too worried about his speed. Edited August 18, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 We need a billboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: I'm sure Bills fans noticed that the announcers weren't talking about how brilliant Dabol was in having the RB/TE chip on DE. Note again that 88 completely whiffs on Myles Garrett. Doesn't mean that Dawkins didn't get owned. Bad play across the line. Good point. Poorly played by Lee and Dawkins. Lee clearly put Dawkins in a bad spot. Edited August 18, 2018 by Sky Diver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: he really is bad...I concur with your lineup ....either has one helluva set of pictures and/or the goods on Castillo........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I'm with you !! Him along with the O line coach need to be sent packing !! I wish they would have kept Kromer he had the O line hummin & has proven his worth in L.A. !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 46 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Dawkins wasn't exactly stellar last night in his matchup with Myles Garrett to put things mildly. Yeah the entire starting OL got smoked last night. Not encouraging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....either has one helluva set of pictures and/or the goods on Castillo........ Shower Buddies Pass the soap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, JMF2006 said: Shower Buddies Pass the soap .....and BY ALL MEANS, do not drop it................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: One play that took out the starting QB. LOL, starter in a preseason game. Holds the ball too long, panics badly in the face of pressure. Allen, with basically the same cast, did pretty well last night. AJ is 3rd string in Buffalo. Agree, Dawkins let Garrett have a run by setting up WAY too deep. Very correctable, and wasn't a whiff, just bad technique. Ducasse has a habit of using bad technique. There was another play where Ducasse and Bodine double teamed Ogunjobi, and then they both let him go, leading to a sack. There's a lot of correction that needs to happen from this game film. Edited August 18, 2018 by buffaloaggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, buffaloaggie said: LOL, starter in a preseason game. Holds the ball too long, panics badly in the face of pressure. Allen, with basically the same cast, did pretty well last night. AJ is 3rd string in Buffalo. Agree, Dawkins let Garrett have a run by setting up WAY too deep. Very correctable, and wasn't a whiff, just bad technique. Ducasse has a habit of using bad technique. The long standing thought on Bama QB's is they suck. Allen and Peterman are light years ahead in this offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 It’s interesting how quickly opinions swing in the preseason. Last week they were ok, this week it’s a train wreck. They will be much like last year, better at run blocking than pass blocking. That said, I think Teller will take over at some point during season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: Exactly. The o-line suffers from severe neglect. They knew this after the season ended. Would anyone want to put a rokkie Q-back behind that O-line? Even Clay forgot how too block and he's a TE. I have been saying this all off-season ... and have been crucified for being "negative" and "hating the Bills" by the McDermott/Beane cheerleaders. Ducasse is not a starting caliber NFL caliber OG. He never has been in all his 8 or 9 year NFL career. Bodine is easily one of the worst starting Cs in the NFL ... and Groy wasn't good enough to challenge Wood. As Miller showed last season, a decent rookie season does not necessarily translate into even as good a sophomore season, but the Bills have banked everything on Dawkins continuing to improve by trading away Cordy Glenn. Hopefully he continues to progress, but last night wasn't positive. There's STILL a black hole at the LG position where a pack of never-weres and never-will-bes are competing to fill the hole left by the departure of Pro Bowler Richie Incognito. Putting Allen out there behind the Bills current OL practically insures he's going to fail. It's not enough to draft a first round QB. A team needs to provide him with protection (and targets, too) to give him a real chance at success ... and the Bills don't appear to have done that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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