26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2) Surprise cut candidate: Nick O'Leary - On Friday, I made a note in my Day 12 observations of Nick O'Leary's surprising placement as reps went on. That day, I said we shouldn't rush to judgment -- especially during a lighter practice. Well, that same trend notably continued on Sunday. O'Leary, once thought of as a shoe-in for the 53-man roster, was saddled with the third-team offense for the second straight practice and may well be fighting for his spot on the team. To this point, O'Leary hasn't done a ton to stand out. He's an average blocker and an average athlete that has reliable hands and is serviceable if called into duty. In training camp though, O'Leary has started to fade into the background as other tight ends are just outperforming him. Second-year player Jason Croom has been fantastic all summer and made a difficult catch during Sunday's practice and in the preseason game, and it appears that he is improving his stock to make the team by the day. Khari Lee, once an afterthought, is the best blocking tight end on the team and has shown both above-average athleticism and playmaking abilities with his performances during the game and in camp. Lee seems to be a player that the Bills have liked and trusted more and more as the summer has gone on. Both players got time with the first-team offense while the Bills demoted O'Leary. Logan Thomas even worked with the first unit at times, showing O'Leary's current standing with the roster. With two big-time camp performers at his position, O'Leary now finds himself on the bubble, and near the top of the list of surprise cut candidates when the end of the preseason gets here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Nicky no gloves!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Seems to be some better prospects at the position...that's good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 This is great news for Nick given Joe B's record of prognostication. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, SWATeam said: This is great news for Nick given Joe B's record of prognostication. ? Yeah, but all the other comments in the piece carry water. Croom & Lee ARE performing while Golden Bear III is being relegated to 3rd team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) What does Jack Nicklaus think of all this? Good we have real competition, O'Leary is tough but limited athletically, we should be able to do better. Edited August 13, 2018 by RoyBatty is alive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: What does Jack Nicklaus think of all this? He thinks his grandson deserves a Mulligan. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I wouldn’t read too, too much into O’Leary with the 3rd stringers. They may just be trying to give more reps to Thomas, Lee, and Croom to see what shakes out. I think O’Leary is safe as our #2 TE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 He should be. He is being outplayed by other TEs on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) On 8/13/2018 at 8:48 AM, Johnny Hammersticks said: I wouldn’t read too, too much into O’Leary with the 3rd stringers. They may just be trying to give more reps to Thomas, Lee, and Croom to see what shakes out. I think O’Leary is safe as our #2 TE. Why? NFL stands for Not For Long and O'Leary is by no means an established multi-dimensional TE. Edited August 16, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 They know what O'Leary gives them. They don't know what the other TE's have to offer. I think he still #2 on the depth chart and this is just a way to identify the #3 guy by giving him reps with better players. That said, if Nick doesn't make the team, we'll still see him twice a year when we play the Pats... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 O leary is solid but unspectacular. If he was on the team I wouldnt be upset, if he is cut I wouldnt be upset. He could find himself on another team. Talented enough to play at this level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Sorry but Nick O'Leary has done well in the real season not just the preseason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: They know what O'Leary gives them. They don't know what the other TE's have to offer. I think he still #2 on the depth chart and this is just a way to identify the #3 guy by giving him reps with better players. That said, if Nick doesn't make the team, we'll still see him twice a year when we play the Pats... Ahhh the typical Pats will take our cut player post. You just forgot the BB is a genius when he does it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Why? NFL stands for Not For Long and O'leary is by no means an established multi-dimensional TE. Welp, since you want to piss in my fruit loops, I will contend that neither are the other three. Logan Thomas can’t block to save his life. I haven’t see Lee so much of anything, really, save for his catch (which was remarkable) in the Carolina game. Croom has flashed as a pass catcher, but I’m not so sure about his ability as a blocker either. Nick is a proven commodity who is improving. He made good strides in the blocking game down the stretch last year. I think he makes the final 53. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Really like Nick. That would suck seeing Brady throwing to him. Trust the process I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I wouldn’t read too, too much into O’Leary with the 3rd stringers. They may just be trying to give more reps to Thomas, Lee, and Croom to see what shakes out. I think O’Leary is safe as our #2 TE. I wouldn’t say he’s safe for the #2 spot... but yes, it’s more or less to say to the other guys “you had a fair shot”... if they keep lighting it up, maybe OLeary does get cut. Edited August 13, 2018 by 1ZAYDAY1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Welp, since you want to piss in my fruit loops, I will contend that neither are the other three. Logan Thomas can’t block to save his life. I haven’t see Lee so much of anything, really, save for his catch (which was remarkable) in the Carolina game. Croom has flashed as a pass catcher, but I’m not so sure about his ability as a blocker either. Nick is a proven commodity who is improving. He made good strides in the blocking game down the stretch last year. I think he makes the final 53. Piss in your fruit loops. Players on this team have to prove themselves on a continual basis as the HC says constantly. You can think whatever you want, but time will tell with other players emerging and being rewarded with reps over NO. He will be given nothing based on previous performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: I wouldn’t say he’s safe for the #2 spot... but yes, it’s more or less to say to the other guys “you had a fair shot”... if they keep lighting it up, maybe OLeary does get cut. Fair point, however, I do think his odds of making the 53 are pretty good. Considering the other guys competing. I would suspect that Croom is his biggest competition at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Mike Rodak ✔@mikerodak First possible injury of training camp: Bills TE Nick O’Leary having his right foot/ankle examined by a trainer. 9:16 AM - Jul 28, 2018 They know what Nick can and want to look at the other 3 TE , would be my guess also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I’m more interested in his observations regarding Milano. A second year player shouldn’t need a wake up call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Piss in your fruit loops. Players on this team have to prove themselves on a continual basis as the HC says constantly. You can think whatever you want, but time will tell with other players emerging and being rewarded with reps over NO. He will be given nothing based on previous performances. You know just about as much as I do, dude. So like myself, you have no idea why the other guys are getting reps over Nick. Stop pretending like you are in the coaches’ room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: You know just about as much as I do, dude. So like myself, you have no idea why the other guys are getting reps over Nick. Stop pretending like you are in the coaches’ room. You're the one prognosticating dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Fair point, however, I do think his odds of making the 53 are pretty good. Considering the other guys competing. I would suspect that Croom is his biggest competition at this point? Yes. This may be the point they let Croom and Thomas battle it out, in order to do so O’Leary takes a step back to let it happen. After this week, I’d bet O’Leary goes back to working with the 1s and 2s, while either Thomas or Croom goes to the 3s. There you will see the writing on the wall. Don’t think Lee is truly in competition here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I am not sure how to say this but when I watch Nick it’s like he is from the 50’s. From his wardrobe to his speed. Nick makes some nice catches but he just has very little speed and moves to escape defenders. Nick’s size hamper him in blocking. I’ve liked having him on the team but if someone is better they need to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You're the one prognosticating dude. Okay, so let me do what I want to do and you go back to what you do so well....cut and paste crap all day long. I stated my opinion, and you disagreed. Fair enough. Move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Okay, so let me do what I want to do and you go back to what you do so well....cut and paste crap all day long. I stated my opinion, and you disagreed. Fair enough. Move on. How whiny, weak, and petulant. Good to know your opinion that means so much to so many. Make sure Daboll knows. Good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 This is great news. O'Leary is a below-average NFL tight end who is unlikely to get better considering his lack of physical attributes. To see Logan Thomas and Jason Croom stepping their games up to the point of upgrading the backup TE position on this team is terrific. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Another player the Pats will pick up if cut & will become a consistent performer while used more with in the scheme !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, T master said: Another player the Pats will pick up if cut & will become a consistent performer while used more with in the scheme !! How many times have we seen this on TBD? I'm sure Beane and McDermott won't make roster decisions with this in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: How whiny, weak, and petulant. Good to know your opinion that means so much to so many. Make sure Daboll knows. Good day. You’re not really worth my time, so I’ll take the high road and leave it at this. You’re nothing special either. Your opinion means just about as much as mine. Get over yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: You’re not really worth my time, so I’ll take the high road and leave it at this. You’re nothing special either. Your opinion means just about as much as mine. Get over yourself. Too late. You already started out on the low road by making things personal as if you can't handle critique of your football opinion. WEAK! Edited August 13, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Too late. You already started out on the low road by making things personal as if you can't handle critique of your football opinion. WEAK! Shouldn’t you be following Twitter more closely so you can copy/paste other people’s ideas and “breaking news” on TSW so you can feel important? Everyone around here really values your service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Shouldn’t you be following Twitter more closely so you can copy/paste other people’s ideas and “breaking news” on TSW so you can feel important? Everyone around here really values your service. Go start another meaningless Astro tweet thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Logan Thomas can’t block to save his life. Oh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Go start another meaningless Astro tweet thread. Good comeback. If you keep snipping at me like a chihuahua, Yolo just might beat you to those tweets! Keep your game strong, little fella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) ? 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: Oh. well, except that time.... Edited August 13, 2018 by nucci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Good comeback. If you keep snipping at me like a chihuahua, Yolo just might beat you to those tweets! Keep your game strong, little fella! Such a sensitive weakling. Contribute to the thread with football discussion or be gone. You've done enough polluting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: Oh. One good chip block on a DE who wasn’t even looking at him? Okay, that was nifty. I’ll give you that. His overall body of work as a blocker is not great. Has always been his weakness. Line Thomas up one-on-one against a big blitzing OLB and we’ll see how he fares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: One good chip block on a DE who wasn’t even looking at him? Okay, that was nifty. I’ll give you that. His overall body of work as a blocker is not great. Has always been his weakness. Line Thomas up one-on-one against a big blitzing OLB and we’ll see how he fares. fair enough but not all TEs are good blockers....he's more of a receiving TE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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