26CornerBlitz Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Cowboys, Zack Martin agree to 6-year, $84M deal The Dallas Cowboys and guard Zack Martin have agreed to terms on a six-year, $84 million contract which includes $40 million guaranteed, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Seems like a lot of fake money in that deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Seems like a lot of fake money in that deal The $40M is very real. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Seems like a lot of fake money in that deal Yup. Thanks for 26 for reporting the guarantee money because I can’t stand when they report the contracts like most players will ever see that money. He is an amazing G but in a salary cap, that’s a lot for a position that isn’t really a make or break one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 The projected Bills starting OL will be getting paid collectively about $7-8 Mil this year.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Good for him. Former ND guy, who is one of the best in the game, cashing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 its a position where he will probably see the end of the deal if he's healthy. look at richie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I can guarantee Zeke is happy about this extension. Dak too. He's the best guard in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 YOWZA! Remember when guards weren’t worth paying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, Augie said: YOWZA! Remember when guards weren’t worth paying? I remember 10 years ago when we paid Dockery 56 million and he was worth about 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I remember 10 years ago when we paid Dockery 56 million and he was worth about 5. I’d rather NOT remember that! If you’re going to pay, pay for someone who can actually PLAY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Andy Levitre is gonna be pissed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 That's quite a contract for a guard. That has to be right up there with the highest paid in the NFL at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: The projected Bills starting OL will be getting paid collectively about $7-8 Mil this year.. Yeah. And I think the results could be appropriate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 56 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I remember 10 years ago when we paid Dockery 56 million and he was worth about 5. ...LOL...Marv brought in "The Beef".......remember Langston Walker at 6'8, 360 lbs?......only problem was instead of USDA Choice, we got horse meat..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...LOL...Marv brought in "The Beef".......remember Langston Walker at 6'8, 360 lbs?......only problem was instead of USDA Choice, we got horse meat..... Marv made none of the decisions on who was signed to contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Marv made none of the decisions on who was signed to contracts. ...in his defense, he reverted to the age old philosophy of "building from the ball out".......think "The Hogs" and Deadskins' OL dominance......just don't know the quality of the beef until you start grillin'....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Marrone wanted this bum over Sammy Watkins. Edited June 13, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I remember when people here scoffed at those who wanted to 'waste a pick' on a guard when David Decastro was drafted. Ask Leveon Bell how that draft pick worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I remember when people here scoffed at those who wanted to 'waste a pick' on a guard when David Decastro was drafted. Ask Leveon Bell how that draft pick worked out. DD is a great G. But I’d argued that having a HOF qb and wr are major factors as well. A couple years ago, there were 2 top 10 pick Gs who were giant busts (Womack and The guy the Pats traded Jones for). Gs are not that hard to find if you have the other pieces in place. Martin also is on another level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Augie said: YOWZA! Remember when guards weren’t worth paying? You mean like when we gave dockery 7m as a thought to be very good but not ELITE guy? Thing is cap that year was 109m (leaving 7 at 6.5%).... this comes in shy of 8% still at 14m per year, and keeps the best in the league...Not that crazy. Just crazy how the cap exploded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, NoSaint said: You mean like when we gave dockery 7m as a thought to be very good but not ELITE guy? Thing is cap that year was 109m (leaving 7 at 6.5%).... this comes in shy of 8% still at 14m per year, and keeps the best in the league...Not that crazy. Just crazy how the cap exploded There are 9 guards making 10 or more million now that this extension is in. That's directly a product in my mind of interior pass rushers rising to prominence and the lack of good O-line play due to changes in the college game. Guards used to be big maulers who didn't need to be dominant interior pass protectors. It was traditionally thought to be a fairly replaceable position. It used to be you could reliably get high-end starters in the 2nd and 3rd round to come in at a high percentage. Now that's not the case, the bust rates are higher on high picks and the importance of the position is higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: The projected Bills starting OL will be getting paid collectively about $7-8 Mil this year.. SUPER BOWL ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I am greatful he has sighed. More boxes checked off to start Training Camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: The projected Bills starting OL will be getting paid collectively about $7-8 Mil this year.. ?. ?. ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: There are 9 guards making 10 or more million now that this extension is in. That's directly a product in my mind of interior pass rushers rising to prominence and the lack of good O-line play due to changes in the college game. Guards used to be big maulers who didn't need to be dominant interior pass protectors. It was traditionally thought to be a fairly replaceable position. It used to be you could reliably get high-end starters in the 2nd and 3rd round to come in at a high percentage. Now that's not the case, the bust rates are higher on high picks and the importance of the position is higher. Your bench mark is what, about 5-5.5% of the cap? 10 years ago there was the dockery contract at I mentioned at 6.5%, Hutchinson signed the same average two years early so a much higher percentage, faneca signed for 8m per year one year later, Jahri Evans the next year... you have to go back over a decade, at least, for guards to fit that bill and it gets hard to pull numbers vs cap to check the going rate. most of the time in these talks the meteoric rise in the cap explains the bulk of the perception Edited June 14, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 15 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: The projected Bills starting OL will be getting paid collectively about $7-8 Mil this year.. That's not the worst thing in the world though. If you look at the Pats, they don't pay olinemen, look at the Seachickens, they don't really invest in the oline, look at the Packers, again, really don't invest in the oline all that much, For having the best oline in football, has it gotten the Cowboys a Lombardi trophy? The Eagles won the SB without Jason Peters. Not saying Oline is overrated, my son plays oline. Just saying you don't have to invest a ton of money in it to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 22 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The $40M is very real. Ok, and the point of this post is...? That leave over half of the contract guaranteed. This could be a 4 year 40 million dollar deal until we see the breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 On 6/13/2018 at 3:15 PM, Soda Popinski said: He's the best guard in football. He better be for that kind of cash ? Dam !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, T master said: He better be for that kind of cash ? Dam !! I mean he earned it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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