Doc Brown Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: NYT This morning. Oops. Is there anything more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Is there anything more? Yes but it's still streaming out.That's just the released portions. Notice the dates... A lot of this was done in May and April on the pages we've been able to see so far. Press conference in under an hour from Trump. More should be leaking out soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Wonder why Un is doing a 180? China must have told him if the US is pissed at you, we aren’t getting involved and that must have scared the hell out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/12/full-text-trump-kim-korea-summit-637541 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/12/full-text-trump-kim-korea-summit-637541 Just seems like a first step in establishing a relationship as there's a lack of specifics in there. Maybe we'll know more after the press conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) Edited June 12, 2018 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Sanctions remain in place... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 "I didn't pay $1.8 billion in cash for the hostages I got back." DAAAAAAAAAAAMNNNN ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Acosta? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 See this obama fans? This is what !@#$ing winning looks like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, joesixpack said: See this obama fans? This is what !@#$ing winning looks like Lol, oh really? I bet you said that when you got your Trump University diploma in the mail. De-nuclearization very soon, ya right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 33 minutes ago, joesixpack said: See this obama fans? This is what !@#$ing winning looks like you said that in your Charlie Sheen voice right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Consciously optimistic , a good first step that I was not expecting , I wish Trump success . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 He’s doing a good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ALF said: Consciously optimistic , a good first step that I was not expecting , I wish Trump success . I am with you on this one..lets hope and pray this leads to peace and stability. Lots to be worked out..lots of information and verification methods that need to be done. As I understand it, this is really a reaffirmation of previous agreements (relative to the denuclearization) ..but hopefully this time both side follow through. Good first step Mr. Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 If you had, “Trump making concessions and getting nothing in return”’ you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: If you had, “Trump making concessions and getting nothing in return”’ you win. OK, I'll play. What concessions did Trump make? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, GG said: OK, I'll play. What concessions did Trump make? I think all the left has is "he took a picture with Kim thereby legitimizing him to the world" ... or at least that was what the talking point was last night. Hard to keep up the goalposts move so often. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, GG said: OK, I'll play. What concessions did Trump make? The ending of military exercises, and Trump even decided to call them “war games”, a tip of the cap to Un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Buddy Hix said: The ending of military exercises, and Trump even decided to call them “war games”, a tip of the cap to Un. That's a concession? Did the US agree to remove troops & naval presence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I think all the left has is "he took a picture with Kim thereby legitimizing him to the world" ... or at least that was what the talking point was last night. Hard to keep up the goalposts move so often. ? It’s always “the left” to you sycophants...like their is no room for Conservatives who refuse to drink the look-aid. 1 minute ago, GG said: That's a concession? Did the US agree to remove troops & naval presence? Yes, ending training exercises was a concession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Just now, Buddy Hix said: It’s always “the left” to you sycophants...like their is no room for Conservatives who refuse to drink the look-aid. ? I am not a Conservative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: the look-aid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Love him or hate him, Trump is doing something both Bushes, Clinton and Obama couldn't. I've never understood the preoccupation that some have with keeping US troops in Korea in perpetuity. Times change. If someone from 2018 went back to 1970 and said the United States and Vietnam are signing cooperative trade and security deals and the Vietnamese Prime Minister visits the White House, you'd be laughed out of the room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Buddy Hix said: Yes, ending training exercises was a concession. A concession is something you give up for nothing. Stopping military exercises is a symbolic move. With no change in military deployment on the peninsula, the exercises can be resumed at a drop of the hat. A concession would be an immediate lifting of sanctions. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, dpberr said: Love him or hate him, Trump is doing something both Bushes, Clinton and Obama couldn't. Not so fast my friend. North Korea has agreed before to denuke...lets hope this time is different. New Leader, hopefully new trustworthiness https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Not so fast my friend. North Korea has agreed before to denuke...lets hope this time is different. New Leader, hopefully new trustworthiness https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron Your gods did nothing as President and now you demand perfection.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Your gods did nothing as President and now you demand perfection.... umm...where did I say I was demanding perfection. I said job well done Mr. Trump. Having said that, the North Koreans have agreed to denuke 3 times before, baulked at verification, and ultimately just strung the US and the world along .Do you deny this happened???? As of today, there is a pledge to "work towards denucleariztion"...no verification specifics etc. Let's all hope we get there, God knows i do..and we know Trump and Pompeo insist on open and always 100% verification. .Let's just hope they demand it in all agreements, and not let ones they negotiate have a different standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: umm...where did I say I was demanding perfection. I said job well done Mr. Trump. Having said that, the North Koreans have agreed to denuke 3 times before, baulked at verification, and ultimately just strung the US and the world along .Do you deny this happened???? As of today, there is a pledge to "work towards denucleariztion"...no verification specifics etc. Let's all hope we get there, God knows i do..and we know Trump and Pompeo insist on open and always 100% verification. .Let's just hope they demand it in all agreements, and not let ones they negotiate have a different standard. I thought it was perfectly clear that's what you meant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, GG said: That's a concession? Did the US agree to remove troops & naval presence? Not training with the people we are helping defend themselves. Ya, that's a concession. Gees, if Obama had sent Kim a pizza you'd be bleeding out your butt in anger. And Kim gave up nothing in return, BTW 22 minutes ago, dpberr said: Love him or hate him, Trump is doing something both Bushes, Clinton and Obama couldn't. I've never understood the preoccupation that some have with keeping US troops in Korea in perpetuity. Times change. If someone from 2018 went back to 1970 and said the United States and Vietnam are signing cooperative trade and security deals and the Vietnamese Prime Minister visits the White House, you'd be laughed out of the room. No, They all got worthless agreements from this murderous regime also. But they didn't do photo ops with the brutal dictator or give them greater legitimacy on the international stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, GG said: A concession is something you give up for nothing. Stopping military exercises is a symbolic move. With no change in military deployment on the peninsula, the exercises can be resumed at a drop of the hat. A concession would be an immediate lifting of sanctions. Good point about concessions vs symbolic gestures. We would do well to remember that. Gestures are important to the process, particularly in most Asian cultures. It will be interesting to see how some of the Asian media outlets spin our goodwill gesture. And, as predicted, China wasted no time in demanding that sanctions against N Korea be lifted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 2 hours ago, baskin said: you said that in your Charlie Sheen voice right. !@#$ off, you droopy-eyed armless child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 SNL is writing the Trump/Kim bad hair skit to now include Dennis Rodman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 47 minutes ago, dpberr said: Love him or hate him, Trump is doing something both Bushes, Clinton and Obama couldn't. I've never understood the preoccupation that some have with keeping US troops in Korea in perpetuity. Times change. If someone from 2018 went back to 1970 and said the United States and Vietnam are signing cooperative trade and security deals and the Vietnamese Prime Minister visits the White House, you'd be laughed out of the room. Trump hasn't done anything different than the Bushes, Clinton and Obama - NK has pledged before to come correct...and ultimately didn't....maybe this sounds different....maybe this will turn out different...who knows.....based on Trump as POTUS record of accomplishing anything substantive... AFA keeping troops...you do realize that NK has troops on the border as well as weapons directed at SK? You do know that there exists a formal war declaration? You do know that the troops represent an important military presence in the South Pacific....keeping NK and China in check.....you do know that our friends SK and Japan want them there right?.....of course you knew all that.... 20 minutes ago, DC Tom said: !@#$ off, you droopy-eyed armless child. lol...you got nothing dude....absolutely nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Kim is a good guy, Trudeau deserves a special place in hell? Normalizing the dictators. Putin summit up next. I guess they will be planning out the Trump-Russia mid term election strategy President for life? Ya, it was a joke https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/trump-jokes-about-being-president-for-life Quote President Donald Trump said his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un "would not have happened" without Otto Warmbier, the American college student who mysteriously died after being sent home from a North Korean labor camp last year. Trump appeared to sidestep a question about him calling Kim "talented" given North Korea's humanitarian record and human rights violations by crediting Warmbier's death for bringing the two world leaders together. "Otto Warmbier is a very special person and he will be for a long time in my life. His parents are good friends of mine. I think without Otto, this would not have happened," Trump told reporters at a Tuesday news conference in Singapore. "Something happened from that day, was a terrible thing. It was brutal. But a lot of people started to focus on what was going on, including North Korea. I really think that Otto is someone who did not die in vain. He had a lot to do with us today." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-credits-otto-warmbier-north-korea-summit-otto-did-not-n882276 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, baskin said: Trump hasn't done anything different than the Bushes, Clinton and Obama - NK has pledged before to come correct...and ultimately didn't....maybe this sounds different....maybe this will turn out different...who knows.....based on Trump as POTUS record of accomplishing anything substantive... AFA keeping troops...you do realize that NK has troops on the border as well as weapons directed at SK? You do know that there exists a formal war declaration? You do know that the troops represent an important military presence in the South Pacific....keeping NK and China in check.....you do know that our friends SK and Japan want them there right?.....of course you knew all that.... lol...you got nothing dude....absolutely nothing can you see how childish you are trying to insist nothing has happened? this is purely your leisure time activity, how you are spending it and you are coming across as a moron and loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Wow! Quote "He's a funny guy, he's very smart, he's a great negotiator. He loves his people, not that I'm surprised by that, but he loves his people." http://theweek.com/speedreads/778509/trump-raves-that-kim-jong-un-great-personality-loves-people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, row_33 said: can you see how childish you are trying to insist nothing has happened? this is purely your leisure time activity, how you are spending it and you are coming across as a moron and loser And very bitter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, westside said: And very bitter. it's okay to be bitter at times, it's quite righteous sometimes, but constant non-stop nattering is ruinous, god help the people who have to live with someone like that it's not utopia but it's a good step to get to the table after decades of stalemate, there's no other way to look at this no matter how you feel about the people involved Edited June 12, 2018 by row_33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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