John from Riverside Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, dlonce said: You’re going to be surprised then. None of the picks come with a warranty. Beanes going to try his best to get up into the top 5. He may need to get to 3 to have the chance at one of those QBs. Theres a reason he took a one from KC for this year and added more picks after round one. I believe Beane thought what he had would be enough,and I believe he thought we’d be drafting higher than we are with our pick. Hes going to need to include next years first at the very least because of the number of teams looking to trade up. I pray he gets it done. We need to attempt to secure the most important spot on the team,finally, and this is the year to do it. Its going to be the richest bidding war ever,in my opinion. I’d love to be the Giants and Indy right now. You could be right of course you could totally be wrong It makes for a interesting draft....I think the bills can come out of this a winner in either scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, elltrain22 said: Get Baker Mayfield. perhaps thats the guy they have at one : ) Once they know who the first 3 picks are they will better know who trade up with. hope they are not napping during the Draft while in the War room. This is going to be the most intense draft we have seen in years IMO. 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: You could be right of course you could totally be wrong It makes for a interesting draft....I think the bills can come out of this a winner in either scenario That's the spirit ! I don't think anyone really does not hope for Franchise QB this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 hours ago, KelsaysLunchbox said: The other fact of the matter is everyone has a plan til the bullets start to fly. They may plan to move up, but other teams may have the same plan and offer better compensation. They may plan to sign Keenum/Bradford/McCarron ect but so will other teams. Takes 2 to tango. So once the bullets start they just have to be aggressive in 45 different directions and see what transpires. And whatever QB they end up with, chances are half the fanbase will complain that it wasn't "their guy" anyways. Football is hard. Yes sir...any solid GM in the league should be able to greatly improve a team when it owns 5 picks in the first three rounds..hopefully the scouting staff is burning the midnight oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Yes sir...any solid GM in the league should be able to greatly improve a team when it owns 5 picks in the first three rounds..hopefully the scouting staff is burning the midnight oil. I feel this FO is full on for this event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s certainly true but I don’t think that they are mad about it. I’m sure that McDermott in company aren’t like “damn, I wish that we were 4-12 instead of in the playoffs.” It helps in situations like Vontae Davis for example. He wouldn’t be here now if the Bills were 4-12. I'm sure Kyle Williams and Eric Wood are not unhappy with making the playoffs. Anyone who has an once of objectivity realize that the Bills were from a talent standpoint not a playoff caliber team. That's what makes their playoff participation even more of an impressive achievement. As we both have said before it is a tribute to the HC and the players that bought in that the sum was greater than its parts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 We gave up a first for Rob Johnson if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I'm beginning to wonder.....If you're Cleveland, you take Chubb #1. Keep #4. And you are guaranteed one of Rosen Mayfield and Darnold. Chubb won't be there at #4. And in doing that, all kinds of crazy could happen with those #2 and #3 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I'm beginning to wonder.....If you're Cleveland, you take Chubb #1. Keep #4. And you are guaranteed one of Rosen Mayfield and Darnold. Chubb won't be there at #4. And in doing that, all kinds of crazy could happen with those #2 and #3 picks. They drafted Myles Garrett (who got hurt) 1st overall last year. Cleveland's D is not bad and will be much better this year. If Cleveland's offense didn't turn the ball over 40+ times last year the D stats would be much better. Barkley or a very good RB is what they need along with a QB of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I'm beginning to wonder.....If you're Cleveland, you take Chubb #1. Keep #4. And you are guaranteed one of Rosen Mayfield and Darnold. Chubb won't be there at #4. And in doing that, all kinds of crazy could happen with those #2 and #3 picks. Barkley maybe but not Chubb. They need to fix the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Buddo said: It actually does if you start looking at draft charts and what values you have to come up with to account for that. The jump up to 2nd from 3rd, will be enough to cost us not just most of this draft's picks, but also some of next years. I'd dread to think what the cost could be to go up to #1. The Charts blah. Your paying the QB premium for any move up why because there will be alot of buyers so 3 could actually cost MORE once QB goes 1 and 2. 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Maybe they aquired the capital so they could aquire A qb and still be able to take players high at other positions........ I dont know if they do that but its a possibility This offseason has been and will remain about the QB position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I'm beginning to wonder.....If you're Cleveland, you take Chubb #1. Keep #4. And you are guaranteed one of Rosen Mayfield and Darnold. Chubb won't be there at #4. And in doing that, all kinds of crazy could happen with those #2 and #3 picks. I think if you're Cleveland and you have a clear-cut favorite of those 3 QBs, you take him at #1. Why potentially settle for your 3rd-best? Edited March 4, 2018 by Rico 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The Charts blah. Your paying the QB premium for any move up why because there will be alot of buyers so 3 could actually cost MORE once QB goes 1 and 2. What a load of bull. Even if you wanted to move up to the top of the draft from #21, for a player not a QB, it's going to cost you too much, as you will severely be compromising your ability to do anything with a draft, for years. Try not to let your desire for a 'franchise' QB, overide any sense of reality. And WTF happens if you get that move wrong? You're pretty much guaranteed another 5 years of futility, until you can throw the kitchen sink at another top drafted QB who might not pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Buddo said: What a load of bull. Even if you wanted to move up to the top of the draft from #21, for a player not a QB, it's going to cost you too much, as you will severely be compromising your ability to do anything with a draft, for years. Try not to let your desire for a 'franchise' QB, overide any sense of reality. And WTF happens if you get that move wrong? You're pretty much guaranteed another 5 years of futility, until you can throw the kitchen sink at another top drafted QB who might not pan out. So your are trying to tell me if QB goes one and two the price for Pick 3 isnt going to skyrocket. Laws of supply and demand Brother and no it doesnt guarantee 5 Years futility if you miss. But if you dont try guess what you get. What we have seen since Kelly left. TRASH QB PLAY. Take your swing Edited March 4, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The Charts blah. Your paying the QB premium for any move up why because there will be alot of buyers so 3 could actually cost MORE once QB goes 1 and 2. This offseason has been and will remain about the QB position And if its Jackson at 21 its not? I totally get the arguement for Rosen....what I keep coming back to is I really dont want to mortgage FUTURE 1st rounders then this year and what if its that plus our 2 firsts this year....not when I have a young Michael Vick staring me in the face at 21? Edited March 4, 2018 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: And if its Jackson at 21 its not? Yes a PROJECT for my QB. Color me excited not. But hey at least we kept the picks to take a DT IN the first in a very weak DL draft and other picks to take WR in yet another Weak position in this draft. Maybe OL. Yeah another weak position. See what I am saying you want to keep picks for what to pick players that have less of a chance at success then trading up for a QB? Buffalo Fans LOVE to settle. You have more than enough capital to go get one of the top guys. GO GET THEN Edited March 4, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Yes a PROJECT for my QB. Color me excited not. But hey at least we kept the picks to take a DT IN the first in a very weak DL draft and other picks to take WR in yet another Weak position in this draft. Maybe OL. Yeah another weak position. See what I am saying you want to keep picks for what to pick players that have less of a chance at success then trading up for a QB? What if its for linebackers which this draft is quality and we sorely need? And all these QBs come with question marks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: What if its for linebackers which this draft is quality and we sorely need? And all these QBs come with question marks.... Ooo yes LBers. That automatically makes this team a contender. Oooo wait. And the LBer have JUST as many if not More ? Than The top QBs. You are talking a later 1st in a weaker draft. Every player in that range has flaws Edited March 4, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Ooo yes LBers. That automatically makes this team a contender. Oooo wait. And the LBer have JUST as many if not More ? Than The top QBs Haven't you heard? Potential 1st round non-QB's always pan out. Just ask Shaq. Imagine how bad we would have been if Shaq didn't play LDE at a mediocre level for half the year. Edited March 4, 2018 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Ooo yes LBers. That automatically makes this team a contender. Oooo wait. And the LBer have JUST as many if not More ? Than The top QBs These linebackers look fantastic I absolutely will not stop my feet and throw a tantrum if its Rosen.....shoot the owner sitting in on QB meetings at the combine probably lends to he wants a legit face of the franchise on this team but the draft is a crazy thing......what if it just does not work out? Lamar Jackson is far from a booby prize here the kid is a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Rico said: I think if you're Cleveland and you have a clear-cut favorite of those 3 QBs, you take him at #1. Why potentially settle for your 3rd-best? I'd take Barkely first, especially if you grade three QB's pretty close together. You are guaranteed a QB. And the best part about it is you make his life easier with a bell cow HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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