Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
njbuff

Simple question?????

Recommended Posts

Do you think the Bills have their minds set on a QB or do they have many options in their minds?

 

I think they pretty much have their minds made up on their guy and are using the combine to confirm it. I have no idea who their guy is though.

 

Thoughts????

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think Cousins is plan a, Rosen is plan b, and Rudolph is plan c.  I hope Tyrod is not plan d.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My guess is they have their sights set on Rosen, Darnold, or Allen. I'm guessing Rosen. I think all of the rumors coming out could mean something. Usually it's the pre combine rumors that are closest to the truth. The next few months is all smokescreen stuff. I think draft boards and plans are pretty much set in motion at this point. I think the interviews are the most important part of the draft combine for most part. 

 

If they know they can land Rosen I could see them going with a crappy vet like Chad Henne or Matt Moore to be there in case they need someone to start the first four games. If we see them sign a younger guy like Bridegewater or McCarron, I think they pass on drafting a guy high. If they trade for Nick Foles, he also become the guy.  I could also see Sam Bradford as a possibility and he would likely become the guy as well. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think they have a plan A, B, C, D, E, F, G...  Tyrod is plan Z.

  • Haha 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am sure that they have a draft board with their QBs ranked. As well as a free agent board/list with numerous potential QB targets on it. 

 

Which one of those QBs is plan A, I have no idea...

 

But seeing as we really haven't heard anything about the Bills going after Cousins, or any other free agent QB, and we've heard a lot about them trying to move up in the draft, I would guess that plan A is the draft.

 

We will find out pretty soon now. Definitely excited to see what they do! 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm sure there were many scenarios laid out at the beginning of the season what direction they wanted to go for a QB, now will that QB sign here? For how much? Is it too much? If so next guy on the list. Same with the rookies, I'm sure Buffalo has contacted every GM at the top so if their guy falls, what will be the price to go up and get him imo.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Plan A is move up in the draft and they have a guy in mind. 

 

The decision they have to make before FA starts is how likely is a team to trade back in a spot where "their guy" is available because as others have said the vet on the roster by the end of that initial FA period will tell us something. 

 

Interesting the Tyrod news yesterday. The Bills are essentially willing to take a cap hit to get a pick for him. So they will pay the $6m option and someone else will then trade a mid to late round pick (4th maybe) for Tyrod and pay the $10m salary. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, I think they have a plan. I think they’ll let their QB come to them, not the other way around. If they really do pay tyrod’s bonus, I’d expect to see them trade him at draft time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

how many question marks do you need for a simple question?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If the top Bills personnel have a set plan "right now" regarding who to exactly sign or get in the draft then I will take their credentials away because:

 

(1) Nothing ever goes exactly as planned, as unexpected surprises pop up, and unexpected roadblocks occur, sometimes making that strong desire unrealistic or unattainable, and another option better.

 

(2) A smart gm always leaves all options on the table until just moments before the trigger needs to be pulled, as patience could lead to a better prize or decision.

 

(3) I feel those who are rigid and say, "We will always take the top player off our board, i.e.the best player available, regardless of our immediate need" are dopes as it could affect winning now, and as too much turnover occurs each year. However, those who say now "We will pick the player that fits the biggest need, could be sometimes wrong, too,  as that position player could be a reach if many better players at that position were already selected. Also, I think it is too early to know exactly what to do, as the draft is two months away and more is to be learned prior to that, about those prospects and the current state of the team. Sometimes doing the opposite of the traditional draft plan could really be best. Be open minded!

 

(4) The early bird often gets the turd, not the worm, or overpays for such as the other gm thinks they are desperate

 

(5) As there is no guarantee of success for any of the top five qb prospects, and as the top one or two free agent quarterbacks would seem to go to the highest bidder, which likely could not be us, the gm should be open minded to thinking outside the box, and considering other approaches as things unfold. There is not only one right answer to get headed in the right direction. Sometimes, it is the second, third, fourth or fifth plan that will be best, as sometimes emotion clouds judgement, or as more creative thinking occurs the more deeper one thinks.

 

(6) If Beane and McDermott want to try something gutsy, as they have before, I am all for that, but do it only after doing all your homework, and waiting until the best possible time, whether sooner or later. If they want a safe choice, that is ok too. Both options have worked for others in the past, or backfired. Do not let the media or fans dictate what to do, as it is your decisions that will determine your fate. Listening to them is smart, but it is smarter then to give that its proper weight.

 

(7) The only general plan the gm, coach and Bills player personnel staff should be doing right now is a smoke and mirrors campaign, and contacting numerous other gms to see any preliminary interest in moving up or down, or with regards to a trade, and let them know you'd listen to them in the future, too,, and asking what they would want in return for such. Then once the time is right, and after more round the clock discussions, consider the best three to five offers, and try to finalize that best before other suitors jump in, or before time runs out. 

 

These are all just my opinions, but I am confident Bean and McDermott already know what to do, with their own other or similar plans.  After all, at least they got us to the playoffs in year one, are making friends and positive connections, with many in the league, are willing to go against the grain, but be smart at the same time, too. Their philosophy of wanting to win both now, and to build for the future, was the right answer. Whether that keeps happening, we will see. The next few months of transactions and acquisitions should reflect that. 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, kdiggz said:

I think they have a plan A, B, C, D, E, F, G...  Tyrod is plan Z.

Plan Z.  Trade TT to Zona 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, slaphappy said:

They are going to draft a QB at 21 and 22..

Don't laugh. It could happen. 

Rudolph 

Jackson

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Honestly, at this stage I would suspect they are still compiling information and assessing where each QB falls. This applies to both Vets and rookies coming out.

 

I believe they have some idea as where the QBs rank in their eyes, but everything can still change.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, njbuff said:

Do you think the Bills have their minds set on a QB or do they have many options in their minds?

 

I think they pretty much have their minds made up on their guy and are using the combine to confirm it. I have no idea who their guy is though.

 

Thoughts????

I think that they have already identified the QB that they want from this draft. I think it is just one player that they really like. If I had to guess I would say Rosen or Donald. I don't get the feeling that they are going to enter a bidding war for Cousins. Unfortunately for Bills fans I think there is just 1 QB the Bills want to draft. If they don't get their guy I fear we are stuck with Taylor for another year, which would be a huge mistake.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Whatever their plan is, I am always very skeptical about any reports at this time of year. They are all playing poker to some degree. Without knowing how the draft will fall, it's nearly impossible to have a definitive plan. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Tyrod is plan Y, Peterman is Z

I don't know, man. I've seen the plan list. Peterman's name had an X next to it...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I don't know, man. I've seen the plan list. Peterman's name had an X next to it...

 

That was a different list indicating their preference for him playing Outside WR (X) on the scout team over him ever taking a snap under center in a game again 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think yesterday's info release about TT is about trading him. If others think we are going to release him they won't trade for him. We are trying to maximize his value in a trade.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would guess that at the moment, Darnold and Allen are their preferred choices, but I guess we'll see. I doubt they're locked in solely on one guy right now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If Tyrod is your QB you have to force 2-3 turnovers and play mistake free football on offense to win most games. It worked 9 times last season, but let's be honest... There is always luck involved with turnovers. You make an amazing play to force a fumble, but actually recovering it is as much luck as anything else, depending on who is nearby when the ball squirts out.

 

For once, everything went their way last season. I just hope they aren't blinded by some "Tyrod led us to the playoffs" nonsense. He didn't "lead" them anywhere. In fact, they did everything they could to minimize his impact on the game. The offense was about running the ball, setting up a nice punt, pinning the other team deep, forcing a turnover on defense, and getting a FG out of it.

 

They have to want better... But until I see otherwise I will assume they are going to do what they did last year: let him test the market, force him to take a paycut, then put out a bunch of social media posts saying WE HAVE OUR QB! with Tyrod all geared up and ready to hand off for the 2018 season.

 

Then, inevitably, they will bench the guy midseason when he does exactly what he always does. The best thing they could do for Tyrod would be cut him so he can cash in for the most money possible early in free agency. Nobody is giving anything for him in a trade, because most teams expect him to be cut eventually.

Edited by TheFunPolice

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, PIZ said:

I think Cousins is plan a, Rosen is plan b, and Rudolph is plan c.  I hope Tyrod is not plan d.

 

Lol plan A sailed out the window with Bills keepin tyrod

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Its pretty obvious they are planning to do soemthing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, drf1835 said:

If the top Bills personnel have a set plan "right now" regarding who to exactly sign or get in the draft then I will take their credentials away

 

I disagree with this because I think that the Bills need to have a firm plan on how they want to move forward, because without it, they can't set priorities.  It shouldn't be a detailed plan with specifics but they definitely need an outline to guide them from step 1 to step 7 or 10 or whatever.  The first few steps are detailed and specific and the later steps are naturally more fluid, but the plan needs to be "set" enough so that the Bills don't waste resources pursuing tangents.

 

They need to have decided already on who among their own FAs they are going to re-sign and who they are going to let walk.  They also need to have decided who they want to release and who they want to try to trade as well as what compensation they want.  They need to have decided how they are going to proceed in FA: pursue a few big names or look for affordable but promising FAs coming off their rookie contracts (like Poyer). 

 

The Bills also need to have a good idea about which positions they want to fill with FAs and which they want to fill through the draft. By now, the FA list should be specific with names and ranks for each position. That's based on the available FA pool, who might join it, and what their scouts tell them about the quality and quantity of positions they need to fill in the draft.  The Bills should also have a list of draft prospects they wish to interview at the Combine next week.

 

Successful organizations don't happen haphazardly.  One of the reasons for the drought was that the Bills were run without solid planning for a couple of decades.   In NE, they draft an OLer in the first or second round every few years so that as their starters leave, they have a youngster ready to step in.  When Pro Bowler Matt Light retired, Nate Solder stepped in.  The Bills haven't ever done that since Bill Polian left.  Instead the Bills cut Pro Bowl guard Ruben Brown in 2004 and didn't replace him with an NFL caliber guard until 2009 (Andy Levitre).  After trading Jason Peters to Philly (and getting fleeced) in 2009, the Bills didn't add a quality LT until 2012.

 

Having a plan doesn't mean that the team doesn't ever deviate from it when circumstances require.  A set plan is a roadmap of how to get to be a team that wins regularly, and hopefully, a lot.  Yeah, there's detours and occasionally roadblocks, but without an idea of where you want to go and how to get there, you just spin your wheels in the mud.  I'm hopeful that the Bills have at least gotten themselves a roadmap.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Sign in to follow this  

×