Rigotz Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I've seen a lot of mock drafts that have us getting the fourth best or fifth best QB in the draft by staying at #21. But that doesn't really seem realistic. Lets look at the teams ahead of us: 1. Browns - Definitely need a QB 2. Giants - Definitely need a QB 5. Broncos - Definitely need a QB 6. Jets - Definitely need a QB 11. Dolphins - I could see them taking a QB (Tannehill is Meh) 12. Bengals - I could see them taking a QB (Dalton is Meh) 15. Cardinals - Definitely need a QB 17. Chargers - I could see them taking a QB (Rivers is old) And lets not forget about the Saints and Steelers, who could trade up a few spots because Brees and Ben have what... 1-2 years left? So ... that's 8 teams in front of us and 2 behind that probably need QBs. Maybe Keenum / Cousins / Bridgewater fill two or three openings ... but ... That doesn't exactly leave us with a top choice. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Drew Brees went in round 2. Nick Foles went in 3rd. Brady went in 6th. Russel Wilson went in 3rd. Aaron Rogers went at 24. So the answer is yes, I think we can draft a great QB at 21 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I've seen a lot of mock drafts that have us getting the fourth best or fifth best QB in the draft by staying at #21. But that doesn't really seem realistic. Lets look at the teams ahead of us: 1. Browns - Definitely need a QB 2. Giants - Definitely need a QB 5. Broncos - Definitely need a QB 6. Jets - Definitely need a QB 11. Dolphins - I could see them taking a QB (Tannehill is Meh) 12. Bengals - I could see them taking a QB (Dalton is Meh) 15. Cardinals - Definitely need a QB 17. Chargers - I could see them taking a QB (Rivers is old) And lets not forget about the Saints and Steelers, who could trade up a few spots because Brees and Ben have what... 1-2 years left? So ... that's 8 teams in front of us and 2 behind that probably need QBs. Maybe Keenum / Cousins / Bridgewater fill two or three openings ... but ... That doesn't exactly leave us with a top choice. What do you guys think? Yes, 8 teams that may need a QB, but definitely not guaranteed to take one. It's an impossible question to answer, there are so many variables that go into the draft. First you have free agency and trades. The combine always changes up these ridiculous early mock drafts. And during the draft, I would assume there will be a trade up from at least one team to get their QB. That would change the outcome of a lot of teams boards. If Cincinnati is picking and the top 3 QB's they like are gone, they aren't going to draft a QB. And that goes for every team. Could the Bills get a quality QB at 21? Possibly, I guess... Edited February 8, 2018 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Can you get lucky?... yes. But you're counting on a bunch of QB needy teams in front of you passing. So I'd say it's not a sound strategy to land your guy. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 YES! I think Rodgers, Cousins, Wilson and a few other were picked past 20th and became franchise QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Let me check the other QBs at 21 threads before I answer yes or no... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Possibly Jackson is there. Eveyone can hold on to Rodgers falling like Marino but the majority of guys picked where Buffalo is Weedon, Brady Quinn, an johny Manziel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Best of luck without a tradeup. Honestly, I'm starting to think we should tank THIS year. Trade off TT, Shady, Glenn and anyone else with a high price tag, fill holes in draft, sputter to 1-3 wins and then go QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I've seen a lot of mock drafts that have us getting the fourth best or fifth best QB in the draft by staying at #21. But that doesn't really seem realistic. Lets look at the teams ahead of us: 1. Browns - Definitely need a QB 2. Giants - Definitely need a QB 5. Broncos - Definitely need a QB 6. Jets - Definitely need a QB 11. Dolphins - I could see them taking a QB (Tannehill is Meh) 12. Bengals - I could see them taking a QB (Dalton is Meh) 15. Cardinals - Definitely need a QB 17. Chargers - I could see them taking a QB (Rivers is old) And lets not forget about the Saints and Steelers, who could trade up a few spots because Brees and Ben have what... 1-2 years left? So ... that's 8 teams in front of us and 2 behind that probably need QBs. Maybe Keenum / Cousins / Bridgewater fill two or three openings ... but ... That doesn't exactly leave us with a top choice. What do you guys think? The only teams picking ahead of the Bills who I think will expend a high pick on a QB are the Browns, Jets and Cardinals, and it's quite possible one or more of them fills the slot with a FA or a trade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Doubtful. Gotta trade up. Should never have traded down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Pete said: Drew Brees went in round 2. Nick Foles went in 3rd. Brady went in 6th. Russel Wilson went in 3rd. Aaron Rogers went at 24. So the answer is yes, I think we can draft a great QB at 21 We can also flip a coin and get tails 10 times in a row, but it's not likely. Beane and McD know they are gone in a few years if they don't keep this team improving. Can't be done without the QB. They won't stay put because the odds are too much higher with the first few qb's than the 5th or 6th guy. If it was your career, wouldn't you want the best odds? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I've seen a lot of mock drafts that have us getting the fourth best or fifth best QB in the draft by staying at #21. But that doesn't really seem realistic. Lets look at the teams ahead of us: 1. Browns - Definitely need a QB 2. Giants - Definitely need a QB 5. Broncos - Definitely need a QB 6. Jets - Definitely need a QB 11. Dolphins - I could see them taking a QB (Tannehill is Meh) 12. Bengals - I could see them taking a QB (Dalton is Meh) 15. Cardinals - Definitely need a QB 17. Chargers - I could see them taking a QB (Rivers is old) And lets not forget about the Saints and Steelers, who could trade up a few spots because Brees and Ben have what... 1-2 years left? So ... that's 8 teams in front of us and 2 behind that probably need QBs. Maybe Keenum / Cousins / Bridgewater fill two or three openings ... but ... That doesn't exactly leave us with a top choice. What do you guys think? I have it on good authority from many here that all these other teams will magically do other than what would be most logical which would be take a QB because the draft expense for them is pretty low. You are confirming my feeling that we could see a serious run on QB through the first dozen picks. At that point I would rather get a top 2 player for the DL or LB and stay put at 21 and 22 than burn two ones to get the sixth rated QB. If these prospects fall heavily into the AFC and are half the players many here claim them to be then we are going to need stout defense and power OL blocking to offset that advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 It'll probably be close, but based on historical trends, there has been one draft in NFL history in which five QBs were taken in the top 20, so history would suggest there's a decent chance that the #5 QB is still available at 21, which, in the case of this year's draft, is a good prospect IMO. I don't think it's completely necessary to trade up, and I fear that a massive trade up may be too costly, but if the front office thinks that one or two of the QBs are on a different tier than the rest, I wouldn't blame them for doing so. Trading up a few picks to secure one of them makes as much sense for Buffalo as it does for Pittsburgh or New Orleans; probably even more-so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: We can also flip a coin and get tails 10 times in a row, but it's not likely. Beane and McD know they are gone in a few years if they don't keep this team improving. Can't be done without the QB. They won't stay put because the odds are too much higher with the first few qb's than the 5th or 6th guy. If it was your career, wouldn't you want the best odds? The trouble is this thread points out how expensive that will be. To move up to slot three will cost much more than two number 1's. Teams drafting in the top 12 will be well aware of the market which says demand will greatly out strip supply. I would say that our two number 1's and our high second would be iffy to buy our way into the 12th spot which would be an iffy prospect. We would have to greatly sweeten that offer to get up to pick 3. Probably next years one and third to boot. No way for somebody not named Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I like Rudolph at 21 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: The trouble is this thread points out how expensive that will be. To move up to slot three will cost much more than two number 1's. Teams drafting in the top 12 will be well aware of the market which says demand will greatly out strip supply. I would say that our two number 1's and our high second would be iffy to buy our way into the 12th spot which would be an iffy prospect. We would have to greatly sweeten that offer to get up to pick 3. Probably next years one and third to boot. No way for somebody not named Manning. Honestly id go full ditka and trade the farm for #1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I would like to trade Tyrord for a 4th, sign Teddy Bridgewater as a FA and draft Mason Rudolph in the first round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Best of luck without a tradeup. Honestly, I'm starting to think we should tank THIS year. Trade off TT, Shady, Glenn and anyone else with a high price tag, fill holes in draft, sputter to 1-3 wins and then go QB. Sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Just now, nucci said: Sarcasm? Eh. I've got a sinking feeling we're gonna end up with the 6-7th guy this year. No good. Another year of QB fail is too much to stomach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Best of luck without a tradeup. Honestly, I'm starting to think we should tank THIS year. Trade off TT, Shady, Glenn and anyone else with a high price tag, fill holes in draft, sputter to 1-3 wins and then go QB. Step. Away. From. The. Pipe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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