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6 hours ago, ricko1112 said:

NE is always near the top in fewest penalties. It's a reflection of great coaching, super discipline, and intelligent players.

 

How about the punch to James White's head after his TD? I don't recall a flag for that?

 

Again, the refs only called the blatant violations. This was one of the best officiated games of the entire season. If Bouye and his mates wore different jerseys, he would be boasting what great plays they were. 

 

Complaining about the refs is what the loser mentality does to you. (Players, I mean. Not YOU).

 

If the refs called all the tacky-tack fouls, the Jags would have had 200 yards in penalties and the game would have been a blowout in the Pats' favor.

 

New England is not always near the top in fewest penalties. It's not even close. This is just things morons say because they want to believe them. 

 

I agree complaining about the refs is pathetic, but the Pats are usually among the most penalized teams.

5 hours ago, ricko1112 said:

I've been a Pats fan since Grogan. 

 

I haven't heard a single Jags player complain about being held by the o-line or any PI. All the interviews I've heard and read it's always, "I can't believe only 1 penalty." Bouye complained about Dola hitting someone in the head. That's it. You only mention those "holds" because you don't like the Pats. If it had been the other way around you would have called it "great blocking."

 

The only thing that the Jags can legitimately can complain about was the whistle on the Lewis fumble. However, as many shows have pointed out, it didn't look like the refs even knew the Jags had the ball.

 

Still harping on the cheating fantasies too, huh? I guess you still believe in the Tooth Fairy too? That's all I'll say about that since this is a Bill's MB. 

 

I'm confused as to why you would even come here

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47 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said:

 

Wait a minute!   Maybe we need more discussions about how college football is fixed. Alabama surprisingly picked for the playoffs over Ohio St and then win the title.  Are Alabama and Nick Saban becoming the New England and Belichick of college football?  Some people love them, some hate them

 

Love them or hate them they have the most talented team in the country and deserve to be there

 

they are a better team than UCF and Ohio State which had 2 losses

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9 hours ago, ricko1112 said:

I've been a Pats fan since Grogan. 

 

I haven't heard a single Jags player complain about being held by the o-line or any PI. All the interviews I've heard and read it's always, "I can't believe only 1 penalty." Bouye complained about Dola hitting someone in the head. That's it. You only mention those "holds" because you don't like the Pats. If it had been the other way around you would have called it "great blocking."

 

The only thing that the Jags can legitimately can complain about was the whistle on the Lewis fumble. However, as many shows have pointed out, it didn't look like the refs even knew the Jags had the ball.

 

Still harping on the cheating fantasies too, huh? I guess you still believe in the Tooth Fairy too? That's all I'll say about that since this is a Bill's MB. 

http://www.totalprosports.com/2018/01/22/jags-players-upset-with-penalty-discrepancy-in-afc-championship-game-the-stats-speak-for-themselves/

 

It's quite intrinsic in their disbelief.  Look at the video at the end, clear and blatant holding as it was during the whole game.  Pathetic. 

 

Yeah, a fairy tail...The NFL wanted to destroy the golden goose by causing controversy, and Tom Brady destroyed his phone because he always destroys his phone even though he had earlier versions in tact.  Live in your own world, just like every other Pats fan.  

 

Why are you here?  

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4 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

http://www.totalprosports.com/2018/01/22/jags-players-upset-with-penalty-discrepancy-in-afc-championship-game-the-stats-speak-for-themselves/

 

It's quite intrinsic in their disbelief.  Look at the video at the end, clear and blatant holding as it was during the whole game.  Pathetic. 

 

Yeah, a fairy tail...The NFL wanted to destroy the golden goose by causing controversy, and Tom Brady destroyed his phone because he always destroys his phone even though he had earlier versions in tact.  Live in your own world, just like every other Pats fan.  

 

Why are you here?  

I told a knowledgeable Bills fan that I was here because I realize that the Bills are becoming a real team again. No longer a trash heap like the Jets will continue to be, or a flukey 1 and done like the Dolphins were. The Bills are building their way back to respectability and will probably (once they get a QB) take over as the class of the AFCE in a couple years when TB and BB retire.

 

By mentioning Brady's phone, it's clear that you only paid attention to the initial report about the phone and not the part when Ted Well$ told us that he told Brady that he no longer needed the phone. 10K + texts and emails were taken from Brady's phone. In his report, Well$ even praised Brady for his level of cooperation.

 

I suppose that kick wasn't wide right either?

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9 minutes ago, ricko1112 said:

I told a knowledgeable Bills fan that I was here because I realize that the Bills are becoming a real team again. No longer a trash heap like the Jets will continue to be, or a flukey 1 and done like the Dolphins were. The Bills are building their way back to respectability and will probably (once they get a QB) take over as the class of the AFCE in a couple years when TB and BB retire.

 

By mentioning Brady's phone, it's clear that you only paid attention to the initial report about the phone and not the part when Ted Well$ told us that he told Brady that he no longer needed the phone. 10K + texts and emails were taken from Brady's phone. In his report, Well$ even praised Brady for his level of cooperation.

 

I suppose that kick wasn't wide right either?

Last line not cool.

 

I also don’t believe the reason you give for being here.

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16 minutes ago, ricko1112 said:

I told a knowledgeable Bills fan that I was here because I realize that the Bills are becoming a real team again. No longer a trash heap like the Jets will continue to be, or a flukey 1 and done like the Dolphins were. The Bills are building their way back to respectability and will probably (once they get a QB) take over as the class of the AFCE in a couple years when TB and BB retire.

 

By mentioning Brady's phone, it's clear that you only paid attention to the initial report about the phone and not the part when Ted Well$ told us that he told Brady that he no longer needed the phone. 10K + texts and emails were taken from Brady's phone. In his report, Well$ even praised Brady for his level of cooperation.

 

I suppose that kick wasn't wide right either?

Brady destroyed the phone to make sure that there was no other chance that someone can ask him for the phone.  Even if Wells told he didn't need the phone at the time.  Again, why destroy the phone and come up with a phony excuse? Even after Wells came out to say that, the judge wasn't buying it.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/judge-tom-bradys-defense-for-destroying-phone-makes-no-sense/

 

Secondly, go away!  The Pats are a bunch of cheaters and it will forever stain the legacy.  Brady will not be the GOAT in my book as there are "more likely than not" and we are all "generally aware" they cheat in ways they can to get a leg up. 

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21 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

I watch tons of college football. Officials didn't protect Bama from Auburn in November.

 

officials aren't perfect... but college ball is played with much more passion and fire

 

By players we've mostly never heard or care about in schools almost none of us attended in places we've never cared to visit.

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The other owners know but remain silent because if the full truth of the league affecting game outcomes came out, it might destroy the league and their investments. It's called being over a barrel. 

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4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The other owners know but remain silent because if the full truth of the league affecting game outcomes came out, it might destroy the league and their investments. It's called being over a barrel. 

 

 

Jerry Jones just threw away ALL of his political capital in the owners' club room over a friggin running back, because he was certain this year's Cowboys team would be good enough to go to the SB.  Other owners were even hinting that he could have his franchise taken from him over his antics...

 

 

....and he's going to ri\oll over so Bob Kraft and the pats (who he hates) can be escorted into every SB for the foreseeable future??

 

Does this really make sense to you?  Come on, of course it doesn't.

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24 minutes ago, Success said:

Last line not cool.

 

I also don’t believe the reason you give for being here.

No, it wasn't, but it was only meant for the that other guy. I was rooting for the Bills over the NFC in those SBs.

 

My reason for being here is genuine, but sometimes when people spout off ridiculous and/or blatantly false nonsense I'll respond. I usually let it go because it's human nature to believe the very first headline we see. Even when the people who first broke the headline correct their mistake, people refuse to change their minds because it makes them feel better. 

 

Like I said, I usually just let it go because this is a Bills' site. I don't expect most people here to understand what Spygate really was or Deflategate. Most here don't realize that the Colts' footballs were illegally low too. Where are the PSI readings Goodell promised to release from the random checks the year after? Anyway, I'm not going to argue those with you guys anymore because your minds will never be changed even if Goodell would stand there and admit the truth that he lied.

 

My reason for being here is what I said it was. TB and BB won't be in NE for more than a few more years. 

 

 

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21 hours ago, jaybee said:

I'll say it again to the cry-babies:

 

Tom Brady was the 199th pick in the 2000 draft. He sat the bench year 1 behind Drew Bledsoe. He was also injured and missed the 2008 season. He's been a starter for 16 NFL seasons. He's been in the super bowl 8 of those 16 seasons. His team has been behind by 10 or more points in the 4th qtr 7 times. The Patriots are 3-4 in those games. The rest of the NFL is 3-70 in those games.His main weapon Rob Gronkowski was out of yesterdays game. Julian Edelman has been out for the season. Yet again with a cast of no-name receivers he was 26 of 38 and 2 touchdowns. He's not a jerk either. Seems a nice guy, and very smart. Yea, he married a Victoria's secret super model but wouldnt you if you were Tom Brady ? You can hate the Patriots (and I do) but you just cannot ignore the greatness that is Tom Brady. Rather than root for him to be injured (like the poorly parented fans at TBD do), just enjoy the show. When your grand-child asks you what was Tom Brady like ? Will you say he was the best ever? Will you say he sucked but the refs made his career ? I wont. I'll tell that kid I was proud to watch the best QB ever in the history of the National Football League. For the 2 or 3 years this 40 year old man has left in his career I will admire his excellence and you should too. There will never be another like him. Rant over.

Seems nice? His low character is what makes him hard to pull for, how could anyone stomach his crying and bitching to the refs constantly or his hissy fita on the sideline. Did you read any of the deflategate reports? He a total douche to the behind the seen working joes

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ricko1112 said:

No, it wasn't, but it was only meant for the that other guy. I was rooting for the Bills over the NFC in those SBs.

 

My reason for being here is genuine, but sometimes when people spout off ridiculous and/or blatantly false nonsense I'll respond. I usually let it go because it's human nature to believe the very first headline we see. Even when the people who first broke the headline correct their mistake, people refuse to change their minds because it makes them feel better. 

 

Like I said, I usually just let it go because this is a Bills' site. I don't expect most people here to understand what Spygate really was or Deflategate. Most here don't realize that the Colts' footballs were illegally low too. Where are the PSI readings Goodell promised to release from the random checks the year after? Anyway, I'm not going to argue those with you guys anymore because your minds will never be changed even if Goodell would stand there and admit the truth that he lied.

 

My reason for being here is what I said it was. TB and BB won't be in NE for more than a few more years. 

 

 

Fair enough.  I’ll take your word for it as to why you’re here.  Probably not what I’d do if my team was on top, but to each his own.

 

I’m not a Pats/cheaters guy.  I think B.B. pushes the envelope more than most, but every team tries to gain advantage in whatever way the can.  Spy gate was properly punished, imo. Deflate gate was nothing.

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When will all the conspiracy theories STOP!  

 

The NFL is 1 million percent not helping the Pats win.  Does anyone even understand how stupid of a statement that is?  The NFL is worst Billions and Billions of dollars.  The Commissioner works for all 32 teams.  

  1. The NFL is NOT going to risk BILLLLLLLLIONNNNNS to help one team win.  If they did, the league would be over and they lose everything.  
  2. The other THIRTY ONE team owners are not going..."Hmmmmm...we are the biggest sport in this country, but lets have the commissioner help the Pats win more because we MIGHT make a FRACTION more in ratings by them being in the Super Bowl."
  3. The amount of money they make by a higher rating is PEANUTS compared to what the league makes in a season.  You guys think the league is going to risk EVERYTHING to get a slight boost to ratings?  LMAO

Seriously...these theories are hilariously ridiculous.  When you are an Elite player, an Elite team, etc...sure you get more calls.  Happens in every sport and someone in another thread brought up the Jordan led Bulls where Jordan got all kinds of phantom calls and BS fouls called in his favor.  And News Flash:  ALL teams in the NFL get calls just like the Pats do every single week, its not just the Pats.  But some of you let the Pats affect your life WAY too much and you fixate just on them.  Yet all of you also think the Refs hate the Bills in every single game, ever single season, not just against the Pats.  

 

The NFL is NOT rigged for the Pats.  Take a breath, go out side, and stop letting the Pats impact your lives so much.  Its just a game.

 

PS:  The NFL and ALL SPORTS are ENTERTAINMENT.  They are the ones playing the game...why...so fans can be entertained by watching it, spend money to watch, and the league makes money.  

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22 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

The calls made against Jacksonville were correct in every case (heck the fumble could have been overturned imo)........

 

The issue however is non-calls.  There were very few replays of close calls (outside the 4th down play by Gilmore, which was not a penalty).  

 

There were a # of plays where calls could have been made and yes never seen a Pat get a holding call......

 

  

How exactly would that fumble been overturned?

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21 hours ago, jaybee said:

When your grand-child asks you what was Tom Brady like ?  Cheater Will you say he was the best ever? No Will you say he sucked but the refs made his career ?  No  

I'll say he played his entire career in an organization dedicated to systematic cheating.  I'll say that he learned to play the position of quarterback for years knowing what defense was called and getting information in his headset until right before the snap, some of which likely continued on through his entire career.  I'll say imagine how many other QBs could have had great records/stats if they learned to play QB in the NFL under similar circumstances.  I'll say that probably just scratches the surface of other advantages through cheating he''s had his entire career.  I'll say his success also includes the most unbelievable incredible string of breaks due to officiating, stupid opponent coaches, his kicker, and baaaaarrrreeely missed plays the history of sports has ever seen.  I'll say similar to Mark McGwire and Lance Armstrong, his accomplishments should be completely discounted and he should be shunned as a pariah, not a hero.  I'll say the mere mention of him as GOAT makes me ill.  Hopefully by the time I have grandkids I'll be able to say finally the whole truth came out by the time you were born.

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

By players we've mostly never heard or care about in schools almost none of us attended in places we've never cared to visit.

 

 

I don't get this statement.  Why would you possibly care about NFL Players?  You think they care about you?  College sports has a ton more passion than pro sports these days.  It is not even close, & if you were fortunate enough to go to school that has a D-1 team it is pretty awesome routing for them.  Much better than routing for spoiled millionaires(the players) & even more spoiled billionaires(the owners) that could give 2 sh*ts less about the average fan. 

16 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

When will all the conspiracy theories STOP!  

 

The NFL is 1 million percent not helping the Pats win.  Does anyone even understand how stupid of a statement that is?  The NFL is worst Billions and Billions of dollars.  The Commissioner works for all 32 teams.  

  1. The NFL is NOT going to risk BILLLLLLLLIONNNNNS to help one team win.  If they did, the league would be over and they lose everything.  
  2. The other THIRTY ONE team owners are not going..."Hmmmmm...we are the biggest sport in this country, but lets have the commissioner help the Pats win more because we MIGHT make a FRACTION more in ratings by them being in the Super Bowl."
  3. The amount of money they make by a higher rating is PEANUTS compared to what the league makes in a season.  You guys think the league is going to risk EVERYTHING to get a slight boost to ratings?  LMAO

Seriously...these theories are hilariously ridiculous.  When you are an Elite player, an Elite team, etc...sure you get more calls.  Happens in every sport and someone in another thread brought up the Jordan led Bulls where Jordan got all kinds of phantom calls and BS fouls called in his favor.  And News Flash:  ALL teams in the NFL get calls just like the Pats do every single week, its not just the Pats.  But some of you let the Pats affect your life WAY too much and you fixate just on them.  Yet all of you also think the Refs hate the Bills in every single game, ever single season, not just against the Pats.  

 

The NFL is NOT rigged for the Pats.  Take a breath, go out side, and stop letting the Pats impact your lives so much.  Its just a game.

 

PS:  The NFL and ALL SPORTS are ENTERTAINMENT.  They are the ones playing the game...why...so fans can be entertained by watching it, spend money to watch, and the league makes money.  

 

 

Sorry but the overall body of evidence of the past 16 years flat outs refutes this post.  No team in the history of sports has benefitted from poor calls as the Patriots have, it started with the fumble against the Raiders & continues with the blown whistle that was in error that cost the Jags the winning TD.  Spygate, tapes are destroyed, deflategate, they get a slap on the wrist.  I am not quite sure what the league's incentive is to make sure the Patriots are on top, who knows maybe Kraft has the negatives of Goodell & his gay lover in bed, but the evidence is overwhelming at this point. 

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