BringBackOrton Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: I'm sure Foles won't mind the fat ring on his finger and this on his mantle. We will see what happens with Wentz under the big stage. Some QB's as we have seen who look legit fold hardcore. We need (Bills) to explore all avenues on FA and the draft. 52 - Foles Playoff MVP for that matter. Yes, but some QB's look good on the big stage one year and never look good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I remember seeing a stat before wentz got hurt and they compared all his numbers to foles and they were nearly identical. Just saying just because foles crapped out in la doesn’t mean he is a garbage qb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Rico said: Foles owns Philly now, no way I’d let him go after this run and this win. What a conflict, must be tough being a Eagles fan. It feels great right now, but the best thing for him, wentz, and the team going forward is to trade him. Give him a chance to start somewhere and remove the awkwardness from the qb room if wentz has a bad stretch next year. Trade him for Tyrod and a pick. Then they have a decent backup but remove the controversy in waiting. Wentz is their future and they’ve invested a lot in him. They need to thank Foles by setting him free. Edited February 5, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: I'd take Foles in Buffalo in a heart beat! Eagles may may be hesitant to trade him until Wentz is at 100% though. Lol...He averages fewer yards a game than Tyrod does over his career...hahahaha...people would have a field day with this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Yes, but some QB's look good on the big stage one year and never look good again. It doen't change the fact he has proven he can be a starter in the league and possible franchise QB if you play him to his strengths like the last 2 games. Eagles understood this and won a SB with him, he flat tore **** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, Real McCoy said: It doen't change the fact he has proven he can be a starter in the league and possible franchise QB if you play him to his strengths like the last 2 games. Eagles understood this and won a SB with him, he flat tore **** up. Of course he has. But Wentz IS a franchise QB, not just a possible one. Not taking anything away from Foles. He got hot at the right time and played out of his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: Lol...He averages fewer yards a game than Tyrod does over his career...hahahaha...people would have a field day with this... Posts like these are what make people LOL. How many SB MVP's do we have? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I honestly think you HAVE to put “Foles” on the QB board as an option. I think you could have him for a 2. It has to be considered. LA was a product of Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher’s playbook is from 1990. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, jmc12290 said: Of course he has. But Wentz IS a franchise QB, not just a possible one. Not taking anything away from Foles. He got hot at the right time and played out of his mind. I'm not talking about the Iggles. I'm talking about him with the Bills. Eagles are one lucky ass Franchise right now. The fans are prob burning their city down right now as I type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Ive stated to think it’s an even better idea than I thought before. He’s a proper bridge that no one is going to credit for what he accomplished. He’s gonna be a bargain. If he is, do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 Take a look back at about page 7 of this thread - you'll see the obstinate, Sean Spicer Award posters ("that inauguration crowd WAS the biggest in history!") who absolutely refuse to admit that NIck Foles is superior to Tyrod Taylor. Not "one of the best in the league" or even "a very good 2nd tier QB." No. Just "better than Tyrod Taylor" is apparently too much for some people to admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Lol...He averages fewer yards a game than Tyrod does over his career...hahahaha...people would have a field day with this... That's because he has several games in his career where he played a handful of snaps which brings down his AVG. As a starter in Philly, his YPG blows TT's out of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 The good thing about Foles winning the MVP: I think this almost forces the Eagles to trade him. Otherwise you've got a Tom Brady-Drew Bledsoe situation in reverse; one of them (and you pick the best one in your opinion) stays, and the other has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: The good thing about Foles winning the MVP: I think this almost forces the Eagles to trade him. Otherwise you've got a Tom Brady-Drew Bledsoe situation in reverse; one of them (and you pick the best one in your opinion) stays, and the other has to go. Real good problem to have. Foles could have 10 years in his tank. Dude is just hitting his "QB" football prime. Weird how the game finally slows down for them late 20"s to early 30's. Edited February 5, 2018 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Lol...He averages fewer yards a game than Tyrod does over his career...hahahaha...people would have a field day with this... Actual QB passing yards? I don't think that's correct. Fin any case, Foles made a throw tonight over the middle between 2 defends Tyrod would never dare attempt. He was fantastic tonight. Tyrod couldn't dream of putting that game together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: I remember seeing a stat before wentz got hurt and they compared all his numbers to foles and they were nearly identical. Just saying just because foles crapped out in la doesn’t mean he is a garbage qb. A lot of QBs crapped out under Fisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It feels great right now, but the best thing for him, wentz, and the team going forward is to trade him. Give him a chance to start somewhere and remove the awkwardness from the qb room if wentz has a bad stretch next year. Trade him for Tyrod and a pick. Then they have a decent backup but remove the controversy in waiting. Wentz is their future and they’ve invested a lot in him. They need to thank Foles by setting him free. True, they did invest a lot in him, but they could get a lot back. I don’t really like playing “what if”... but what if the Browns offered you the #1 and #4 picks in the draft this year and next year’s #1 for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Chimp said: Actual QB passing yards? I don't think that's correct. Fin any case, Foles made a throw tonight over the middle between 2 defends Tyrod would never dare attempt. He was fantastic tonight. Tyrod couldn't dream of putting that game together. And that's the most important thing. No standing around looking confused. Get the ball, see the whole field, make the throw. And then when the throws came, they were right on the money. Fantastic performance for any QB, and even more so for a guy who took over about 6 games ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, The_Dude said: I honestly think you HAVE to put “Foles” on the QB board as an option. I think you could have him for a 2. It has to be considered. LA was a product of Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher’s playbook is from 1990. Jeff Fisher was an Abe gibron acolyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Chimp said: Actual QB passing yards? I don't think that's correct. Fin any case, Foles made a throw tonight over the middle between 2 defends Tyrod would never dare attempt. He was fantastic tonight. Tyrod couldn't dream of putting that game together. yes it is...Tyrod averages 201 yasrds a game Foles 199 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I'd love to get Foles, but does concern me a little bit that he was contemplating retirement after one bad year in St Louis. Does he want to be a great QB? Is he still gonna be hungry after winning Super Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: yes it is...Tyrod averages 201 yasrds a game Foles 199 Its not fair to count the LA stuff. I think the Bills need to consider trading for Foles. 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: I'd love to get Foles, but does concern me a little bit that he was contemplating retirement after one bad year in St Louis. Does he want to be a great QB? Is he still gonna be hungry after winning Super Bowl? I think Jeff Fisher sucked the Love for the game out of him. I’d trade a 2 for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, matter2003 said: yes it is...Tyrod averages 201 yasrds a game Foles 199 Tyrod averages 156 passing yards a game. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm Edited February 5, 2018 by Chimp 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, The_Dude said: Its not fair to count the LA stuff. I think the Bills need to consider trading for Foles. It is what it is, but I would be highly in favor of it if only for his playoff clutchness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Btw Shady mccoy loves nick foles. He played with him in philly when they went to the playoffs under Chip and he’s been tweeting About him regularly saying how good he is 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chimp said: Tyrod averages 156 passing yards a game. ah I see what the issue is... It counts games he is active for even though not starting... In his "14 games" for Baltimore he averaged 14.2 yards per game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: ah I see what the issue is... It counts games he is active for even though not starting... In his "14 games" for Baltimore he averaged 14.2 yards per game... Good call, didn't catch that. Call me Brady 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, matter2003 said: ah I see what the issue is... It counts games he is active for even though not starting... In his "14 games" for Baltimore he averaged 14.2 yards per game... That's the same thing for Foles. Both numbers are faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, jmc12290 said: That's the same thing for Foles. Both numbers are faulty. Yeah if I just look at Foles 8 games he started in 2015(all of his 8 games were starts) he averaged 270 yards a game... way better than Taylor... But then again in his 11 starts in Saint Louis, he averaged 187 yards...worse than Taylor... He needs to be in the right system, he isn't one of those guys you can plug and play with any system... Either way it would be the best QB Daboll has had to work with by far... Bills need to at least inquire about price... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BringBackOrton Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Yeah if I just look at Foles 8 games he started in 2015(all of his 8 games were starts) he averaged 270 yards a game... way better than Taylor... But then again in his 11 starts in Saint Louis, he averaged 187 yards...worse than Taylor... He needs to be in the right system, he isn't one of those guys you can plug and play with any system... Either way it would be the best QB Daboll has had to work with by far... Bills need to at least inquire about price... The Jeff Fisher Rams killed everybody 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) In the playoffs(4 games), Foles has a 71.9% completion rate, averages 8.4 Y/A and has a QB Rating of 113.1.... Averages 291 YPG and has thrown 8 TDs and 1 INT...those are Flacco like numbers. You can't teach clutch and a QB who displays that ability is worth a LOT...I'd take my chances on a guy like that versus a guy who is great during the season and disappears when it counts...we already know he is clutch in the playoffs even if he isn't that great during the season...all we'd have to do is get him to the playoffs like the Ravens did with Flacco... Edited February 5, 2018 by matter2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Not every day you have an opportunity to trade for a Super bowl MVP. I’d offer a first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It feels great right now, but the best thing for him, wentz, and the team going forward is to trade him. Give him a chance to start somewhere and remove the awkwardness from the qb room if wentz has a bad stretch next year. Trade him for Tyrod and a pick. Then they have a decent backup but remove the controversy in waiting. Wentz is their future and they’ve invested a lot in him. They need to thank Foles by setting him free. So the Eagles are going to pay their backup QB $18 million next year? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Lol...He averages fewer yards a game than Tyrod does over his career...hahahaha...people would have a field day with this... 51 minutes ago, Chimp said: Actual QB passing yards? I don't think that's correct. Fin any case, Foles made a throw tonight over the middle between 2 defends Tyrod would never dare attempt. He was fantastic tonight. Tyrod couldn't dream of putting that game together. You got to be careful with Yards per Game statistics. 2017 Foles stat line is 537 yards for 76,7 yards per game in the Regular Season. He only started 3 games but appeared in 7 games. That's why the Yards per Game is low. His Playoff stat line is 2 games for 598 yards for a 299 yards per game. This is not counting the Super Bowl (they haven't updated the site yet. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FoleNi00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) On 1/21/2018 at 8:55 PM, Real McCoy said: Def the NFC championship game MVP thus far today. Now I just hope he can do the same or better in the SB to take down the PATs. TY - Foles We don't need a QB with over 700 yards in 2 of the most crucial games.... Edited February 5, 2018 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Bills should offer one of their 2nds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Also shows what a good coordinator will do. Using college concepts and RPOs can be very effective in the NFL. Hopefully we hired a creative play caller this time. 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Yeah if I just look at Foles 8 games he started in 2015(all of his 8 games were starts) he averaged 270 yards a game... way better than Taylor... But then again in his 11 starts in Saint Louis, he averaged 187 yards...worse than Taylor... He needs to be in the right system, he isn't one of those guys you can plug and play with any system... Either way it would be the best QB Daboll has had to work with by far... Bills need to at least inquire about price... Bottom line is if he in not productive you have a poor Offensive coordinator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 1/21/2018 at 8:17 PM, jr1 said: he was 4-7 in 2015 Yeah,it looks like he got better On 1/22/2018 at 9:02 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: He's not a franchise QB for any team in the NFL. Stop the madness. He may be now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Btw Shady mccoy loves nick foles. He played with him in philly when they went to the playoffs under Chip and he’s been tweeting About him regularly saying how good he is Yes. Man, I've been high on Foles since hoping the Bills would draft him his rookie year. I think he is the only QB available who makes sense as an upgrade from Tyrod. And now Foles is the Brady killer — he outdueled him in the Super Bowl. Come to the AFC East and finish the job, chase him into retirement. I've been hoping for an RPO with Tyrod, but an RPO with Foles would be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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