ndirish1978 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, The Monk said: I thought Cousins is a FA. He is, disregard that post. Cousins has no reason to sign with Washington and they can't afford to re-sign him. There is quite literally almost no scenario in which the Redskins trade Cousins. Even if they franchised him again he's better off playing one more year that at that ridiculous salary ($38M) and hitting the market a year later than signing the franchise tag and letting them trade him anywhere. Even if that scenario played out, who is going to pay him $38 in the hopes he agrees to sign a long term contract? It's a ludicrous proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I'd give up both our firsts, next year's first and 3rd and one of our 2s this year to get Rosen My thoughts, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I voted No. too many holes to spend picks on moving up. No QB will succeed with the Right side of the line that they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Because we made the playoffs, I don't think we should do it, as the pick cost has become too much. With the amount of holes we have, we need to hang on to those top picks, and make them count. If someone drops that they like, then go get them, but not at the expense of too many picks. We've got 8 picks, iirc, and nothing lower than a 5th rounder. It's not inconcievable, that all of those picks could make the roster, and provide a huge boost of talent. Get that extra talent in here, and go all in on a QB next year, assuming we've found a vet in FA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I think you do it in stages, like Philadelphia did when they picked Wentz at #2. They first made a trade with Miami to get from #13 to #8. They traded Kiko Alonzo and Byron Maxwell to move up 5 spots. This put them in a position to get to #2. Cleveland wanted to stay in the top 8 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 59 minutes ago, jrober38 said: To move up to #2 overall would take four first round picks. No thanks. Uh, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, stony said: Is there ever? Wentz was a gamble, Goff was a bust after a year. Last year's class was considered poor and now Watson looks legit and even Mitch was ok (maybe a stretch?) My point is, it's the toughest position to fill in all of pro sports, and you can negate some of the risk by drafting the cream instead of going bargain bin shopping. Wentz wasn't a gamble. I actually would have been thrilled if the Bills drafted Watson. I'm not talking bargain bin shopping...but to mortgage your future on a single pick that may or may not pan out is taking a huge risk. With the number of QB needy teams this year it will take an awful lot to move up. I don't see a "cream" QB in this draft. I see a number of QB's that have a lot of potential. If the Bills can sit where they are and get two impact players...one of which may be a QB...I'd prefer if they did that...particularly if you are talking multiple first round picks in multiple years to trade up. If you watched a lot of college ball this year, you will have noted a number of freshman and sophomore QBs that will be available in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 If there truly are franchise qbs in this draft yes.....you do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricko1112 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: We'd need to give up 4 firsts, or 3 firsts plus 2 seconds. If that's the case, run away! Run away as fast as you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricko1112 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: If there truly are franchise qbs in this draft yes.....you do it There aren't. At least not yet... Let's see who gets hyped at the combine and which teams get hosed! Like the Bears did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 LOL, like 2 picks to move up to 2? Yeah sure, which ones? Probably gonna take a lot of picks, one wont work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Klaista2k said: If the Giants were willing to trade the second pick overall -- Would you be willing to part way with the 21st, 22nd, and other draft picks to go up to #2 and take a franchise quarterback? Is there only a particular quarterback you would do this for? Darnold? Rosen? How would you feel about this? If the Bills truly believe there's a guy who could be their QB of the present and future and he'll be available at Pick #2, then yes. All In! OTOH, if they think Cousins could be the Man, go after him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 For Rosen only. I like Mayfield and would take him @ 21 or 22 if we don't go Rosen with a trade up. I would also move up for Roquan Smith. The guy is a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 This is the year to do it because of the extra early round picks to trade or plug holes with -- and a hefty bit of cap room to fill in the gaps. Even though there are a lot of holes, you can't wait until next year. I'm not sure if either of the top two are worth the price (whatever it is), but it is time to roll the dice. You also get the extra benefit of having a cheap QB and an extra year of control b/c he'd be a first round pick. If they can get ip there, then they have to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsInWilmingtonNC Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The cost for the 2nd pick might look like 4 first round picks, but if the Bills have the most draft capital to reasonably offer, it may be closer to 3 first round picks and change. We must take into consideration that the Bills are one of the only teams with 2 first round picks to offer THIS year.. providing IMMEDIATE return for the Giants, Browns, or Colts moving out of their spot. I have to think that this would appeal to the Giants specifically as they already have Manning and aren't in a position where they HAVE to get a QB, and the thought of having 2 first round picks THIS year could definitely appeal to them making one last run with Eli this coming year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, brianb386 said: IN theory I would, but in reality it may take a lot to move up. I'd be ok with giving up both 1st rd picks this year and maybe a second as well. That probably doesn't get it done, though. I would go with our 2 firsts, next year's second, and any other Bills player they want, maybe any other 2 Bills they want If it's the right guy, go for broke. A franchise QB covers up many of the other holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Rosen and Darnold I think can be true franchise quarterbacks, obviously it's a crapshoot, but either would be the best QB prospect we've had really since Jim Kelly. We need a real top blue chip prospect, not a Losman type 4th best QB in the draft. Think I'd only trade up for one of them. If I can't get there I just sit and see how the draft plays out. I do think the Giants might consider it. Two picks in the 20s allows them to draft what they really need which is offensive line. Maybe they'd want Cordy Glenn too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 There's some crazy talk in here. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: What does the chart say for what we would have to give up to move up that far? The "Draft Trade Chart" = NFL version of the Book of Armaments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, beerme1 said: There's some crazy talk in here. Crazy. So you like 7-9, 8-8, and 9-7 until the cows come home?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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