26CornerBlitz Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Elway: Upgrading QB position is Broncos' top goal More competition for a top flight QB heading into next season. To the surprise of no one with the likes of Siemian, Osweiler, Lynch, and Kelly around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Yeah, I was going to say, CB, we already new this. I still think they should find the QB they want and go get him, wherever he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, dollars 2 donuts said: Yeah, I was going to say, CB, we already new this. I still think they should find the QB they want and go get him, wherever he is. The larger point from a Bills' perspective is the competition to find a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 perhaps they like TT?? trade him for a 2nd? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Remember when Elway was such a great GM and QB evaluator? Seems like his approach was to throw a bunch of crap at the wall and see if any of it sticks...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I could see them going for Allen since he's in a neighboring state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The larger point from a Bills' perspective is the competition to find a franchise QB. Agreed. Not to turn this into another one of "those" threads, but if the Bills find their guy, have him sit next year and keep TT because yo have him under contract. Unless their guy is an absolute stud, which he may not be if they don't move up. Edited January 3, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 In looking at the top 10 draft order it's still hard to fathom any scenario in which the Bills will be able to trade up and get one of the blue chip QB prospects unless they are willing to pull a Saints/Ricky Williams type of deal (and there's about 0.0001% Beane does that given the holes this team still has and others created in the offseason). This is why I still maintain NP is likely going to be the guy by default heading into 2018 especially if we draft another 2nd/3rd tier rookie QB like we did with him last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Thank you for stating the incredibly obvious, Mr. Elway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Chad Kelly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: perhaps they like TT?? trade him for a 2nd? For what it's worth, I have asked Bronco fans here in Colorado for months now if they would trade a 3rd for TT, every one of them says yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: perhaps they like TT?? trade him for a 2nd? or a 3rd, or a 4th. Then use the pick and the 5th from Jacksonville to trade for Alex Smith. Edited January 3, 2018 by Tatonka68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: For what it's worth, I have asked Bronco fans here in Colorado for months now if they would trade a 3rd for TT, every one of them says yes. Thusly proving Broncos fans don't watch Bills games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: In looking at the top 10 draft order it's still hard to fathom any scenario in which the Bills will be able to trade up and get one of the blue chip QB prospects unless they are willing to pull a Saints/Ricky Williams type of deal (and there's about 0.0001% Beane does that given the holes this team still has and others created in the offseason). This is why I still maintain NP is likely going to be the guy by default heading into 2018 especially if we draft another 2nd/3rd tier rookie QB like we did with him last year. Based on current records, I believe our two 1sts and two 2nds would just about equal the 3rd overall pick, held by the Colts, who I believe would be our target trade partners if we believe Darnold and Rosen are going 1 and 2 and also that the guy ranked QB3 is franchise-QB-material. Given their poor O-line play, I bet we could retain a 2nd round pick and instead include Glenn. There is also the possibility of adding a 2nd or 3rd round pick from 2019. Re: the bold, yeah, I really doubt that is why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 59 minutes ago, Manther said: Is that wendy? Lol 26 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Remember when Elway was such a great GM and QB evaluator? Seems like his approach was to throw a bunch of crap at the wall and see if any of it sticks...... Wrong. I would only say he did that for the qb spot. Everywhere else hes been nasty. I think he drafted and signed around 30 pro bowlers in a window. I saw a video where they broke down the broncos teams after they won the superbowl. Elway built the sht outta that team, jus hasnt hit on a QB yet. And still has a ring as GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 36 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Elway: Upgrading QB position is Broncos' top goal More competition for a top flight QB heading into next season. To the surprise of no one with the likes of Siemian, Osweiler, Lynch, and Kelly around. It should be the Bills as wel once season is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: It should be the Bills as wel once season is over I believe it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I could see them trading for Tyrod tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I believe it will be. Hope so. But also goes to show what many have said you cannot have sustained success with an elite defense and blah taking snaps Just now, Jasovon said: I could see them trading for Tyrod tbh Why? I see this alot so Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Hope so. But also goes to show what many have said you cannot have sustained success with an elite defense and blah taking snaps Why? I see this alot so Why? Tyrod has a great reputation around the league as some kind of unsung hero and was linked to the Broncos last offseason when we were considering just cutting him. Could be all smoke and mirrors but isn't that hard to imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jasovon said: Tyrod has a great reputation around the league as some kind of unsung hero and was linked to the Broncos last offseason when we were considering just cutting him. Could be all smoke and mirrors but isn't that hard to imagine. His option wasnt picked up and Combine happened and agent took the market for him and guess what he redid his deal. That tells you what the other teams (not national media) think of him So how does the QB that has led one of the NFLs worst passing offense over three years upgrade Denvers QB room Edited January 3, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Jasovon said: Tyrod has a great reputation around the league as some kind of unsung hero and was linked to the Broncos last offseason when we were considering just cutting him. Could be all smoke and mirrors but isn't that hard to imagine. The link came from because Kubiak was the coach and who knows Taylor from this days with the Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshermw Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: His option wasnt picked up and Combine happened and agent took the market for him and guess what he redid his deal. That tells you what the other teams (not national media) think of him So how does the QB that has led one of the NFLs worst passing offense over three years upgrade Denvers QB room Denver actually has WR, puts passes to them in the regular offense and an OC that would use TT's running ability - like also actually having an option game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 It's amazing how a great qb could be so bad at evaluating Qbs. Fun fact, no one is an expert at evaluating Qbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, moshermw said: Denver actually has WR, puts passes to them in the regular offense and an OC that would use TT's running ability - like also actually having an option game. Passes to WR are regular in this offense. TT chooses not to throw them. Again they had their chance to take him. And Passed. Word out on TT so there is Nada that shows TT would upgrade that QB room like Elway wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesPlayoffs Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Fun fact, no one is an expert at evaluating Qbs. Especially this message board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Passes to WR are regular in this offense. TT chooses not to throw them. Again they had their chance to take him. And Passed. Word out on TT so there is Nada that shows TT would upgrade that QB room like Elway wants I'm leaning towards agreeing with you. TT had his chance to test the market...it wasn't that favorable for him and he re signed here if Denver really wanted him they coulda made a play for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesPlayoffs Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Again they had their chance to take him. And Passed. They didn't pass on him...he chose Buffalo over their offer. Just now, Buffalo716 said: TT had his chance to test the market...it wasn't that favorable for him and he re signed here That's not true at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, Manther said: Thusly proving Broncos fans don't watch Bills games. Like I said this was fan talk. Most are calling Paxton Lynch a bust who can't stay on the field. It's all about QB in Denver and they (the fans) will take anyone at this point. Actually, most Donkey fans don't trust Denver selecting a QB in the draft. Remember Elway was a trade. The top 3 Denver drafted QB since merger are: Jay Cutler Brian Griese Tommy Maddox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: For what it's worth, I have asked Bronco fans here in Colorado for months now if they would trade a 3rd for TT, every one of them says yes. What fans would do and what a GM might do are two very different things. However, a more interesting trade might involve swapping picks and throwing Tyrod in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, YesPlayoffs said: They didn't pass on him...he chose Buffalo over their offer. That's not true at all. WRONG it is true Bills declined his option. Taylors Agent checked the market for him at the Combine. NADA Taylor reset his contract in Buffalo All Facts so Again how does TT (who they passed on last year) HELP upgrade their QB room Edited January 3, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: What fans would do and what a GM might do are two very different things. However, a more interesting trade might involve swapping picks and throwing Tyrod in. For sure! See my post above yours. Drafting QBs is a joke here in Denver. 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: WRONG it is true Bills declined his option. Taylors Agent checked the market for him at the Combine. NADA Taylor reset his contract in Buffalo All Facts They went all in on Paxton Lynch................result......................hurt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesPlayoffs Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: WRONG it is true Bills declined his option. Taylors Agent checked the market for him at the Combine. NADA Taylor reset his contract in Buffalo All Facts so Again how does TT (who they passed on last year) HELP upgrade their QB room Completely false. It's just a message board fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Like I said this was fan talk. Most are calling Paxton Lynch a bust who can't stay on the field. It's all about QB in Denver and they (the fans) will take anyone at this point. Actually, most Donkey fans don't trust Denver selecting a QB in the draft. Remember Elway was a trade. The top 3 Denver drafted QB since merger are: Jay Cutler Brian Griese Tommy Maddox If Cutler was not such a head case he had / has all the tools. The guy could have been very, very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: His option wasnt picked up and Combine happened and agent took the market for him and guess what he redid his deal. That tells you what the other teams (not national media) think of him So how does the QB that has led one of the NFLs worst passing offense over three years upgrade Denvers QB room Agreed. I would think watching tape on TT this year he would be thought of in less of a light than last year. And, last year, nobody wanted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, YesPlayoffs said: Completely false. It's just a message board fabrication. No it is not was the option picked up? was the Combine before re-signing? did he redo his contract to stay as a starter in Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, YesPlayoffs said: They didn't pass on him...he chose Buffalo over their offer. That's not true at all. 8 minutes ago, YesPlayoffs said: They didn't pass on him...he chose Buffalo over their offer. That's not true at all. maybe I worded that wrong but TT 100% said he wasn't going to restructure and said his agent was going to look for a trade or ask for release if he had to restructure he ended up restructuring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Now ( well in FA) is a good time to see IF all of the rumors are true and that Denver wanted TT for the past 2 or 3 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: WRONG it is true Bills declined his option. Taylors Agent checked the market for him at the Combine. NADA Taylor reset his contract in Buffalo All Facts so Again how does TT (who they passed on last year) HELP upgrade their QB room I don't think TT helps Denver's QB options UNLESS they have changed their evaluations on their current 4 QBs and they are all graded worse than the previous year and TT is still the same. Which I don't think the above I just wrote is the case at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesPlayoffs Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: No it is not was the option picked up? was the Combine before re-signing? did he redo his contract to stay as a starter in Buffalo? Do you have any proof? Any link? Anything that makes this something other than a message board lie? Didn't think so. You can choose to believe whatever nonsense you want, but don't say something is a fact when it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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