Charlottebillsfan2 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/261235/nfl-playoff-picture-updated-seeds-after-week-14 I didn't realize this but according to espn the Bills are currently the sixth seed. Its time to root for the Browns in a huge upset against the Ravens and Despite the draft pick we need KC to beat the Chargers (Thursday night football). Sorry merge thread I just saw it was already posted based on the CBS standings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Dude. this is the 4th 6th seed thread. Use the search function Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 DUDE I just realized that and asked to merge the thread but thanks Dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Dude. this is the 4th 6th seed thread. Use the search function Why does this bother you or anyone else? look at all the idiotic threads started by the same people. Watching last nights game they had Baltimore as the sixth seed and that was ESPN. Projection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I believe we are the 8th. We aren't ahead of the Chargers who beat us and TN has a better record that us. Baltimore has tie breakers. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/nfl-playoff-picture-standings-matchups-scenarios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 There are three games left. On day one of the season 32 teams were tied for first. These type of analysis only matter when there is finality to it. For example, if a win or loss (or some combination of wins or losses) mathematically puts you in or out of the post season. You might as well put any analysis at this time in your hope chest and write a wishful entry in your diary imagining what the playoffs are like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 And if the Pats beat us that bad & the Fins whooped the Pats what exactly does that mean for the Bills play off chances ?? How many wins will the Bills get out of the last 3 games ? I'm thinking 1 maybe ... home games or not !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seregil42 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I believe we are the 8th. We aren't ahead of the Chargers who beat us and TN has a better record that us. Baltimore has tie breakers. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/nfl-playoff-picture-standings-matchups-scenarios Technically, we are the 6th, but in reality, you would be correct. The tie breaker that Baltimore would have us on is common opponents, which apparently doesn't kick in until after there are 4 common opponents. Currently, there are only 3. When we play the Dolphins, the tie breaker will kick in and place the Ravens over us (assuming we remain tied) Edited December 12, 2017 by seregil42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 49 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I believe we are the 8th. We aren't ahead of the Chargers who beat us and TN has a better record that us. Baltimore has tie breakers. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/nfl-playoff-picture-standings-matchups-scenarios AFC NFC WILD CARD ROUND JAN 6-7 Bills (7-6-0) Proj: 6th Seed Jaguars (9-4-0) Proj: 3rd Seed Titans (8-5-0) Proj: 5th Seed Chiefs (7-6-0) Proj: 4th Seed Falcons (8-5-0) Proj: 6th Seed Rams (9-4-0) Proj: 3rd Seed Panthers (9-4-0) Proj: 5th Seed Saints (9-4-0) Proj: 4th Seed looks like 6th on nfl.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 well then let's fire the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: AFC NFC WILD CARD ROUND JAN 6-7 Bills (7-6-0) Proj: 6th Seed Jaguars (9-4-0) Proj: 3rd Seed Titans (8-5-0) Proj: 5th Seed Chiefs (7-6-0) Proj: 4th Seed Falcons (8-5-0) Proj: 6th Seed Rams (9-4-0) Proj: 3rd Seed Panthers (9-4-0) Proj: 5th Seed Saints (9-4-0) Proj: 4th Seed looks like 6th on nfl.com This is before common opponents kick in as Seregil commented above. If the season ended today, we would be behind TN, LA and I think BAL. Edited December 12, 2017 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, T master said: And if the Pats beat us that bad & the Fins whooped the Pats what exactly does that mean for the Bills play off chances ?? How many wins will the Bills get out of the last 3 games ? I'm thinking 1 maybe ... home games or not !! By that logic, the Chiefs whipped the Pats and the Bills beat the Chiefs, so that must mean the Bills are better than the Pats? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, chknwing334 said: By that logic, the Chiefs whipped the Pats and the Bills beat the Chiefs, so that must mean the Bills are better than the Pats? The Pats loss was the first game of the season & the Bills beating the Cheif's was after the Cheif's fell back to earth . So ill stick with my thoughts of how the teams are playing now instead of 3 months ago . Just sayin !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: This is before common opponents kick in as Seregil commented above. If the season ended today, we would be behind TN, LA and I think BAL. Bills have a better conference record then LA so wouldn't they be ahead regardless of losing to them? LA 4-5 Bills 5-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: Bills have a better conference record then LA so wouldn't they be ahead regardless of losing to them? LA 4-5 Bills 5-4 I think head to head is ahead of conference record for tie breakers. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Sports Illustrated has the Bills 8th currently because they applied everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/261235/nfl-playoff-picture-updated-seeds-after-week-14 I didn't realize this but according to espn the Bills are currently the sixth seed. Its time to root for the Browns in a huge upset against the Ravens and Despite the draft pick we need KC to beat the Chargers (Thursday night football). Sorry merge thread I just saw it was already posted based on the CBS standings Wouldn't it be better for the Chargers to keep winning and take that division? LA has us on tiebreakers. KC does not. 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think head to head is ahead of conference record for tie breakers. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Sports Illustrated has the Bills 8th currently because they applied everything. I think the current three-way tie actually places us in sixth, technically. It won't finish this way as teams accrue more common opponents and conference records change, but for now: Bills in sixth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/261235/nfl-playoff-picture-updated-seeds-after-week-14 I didn't realize this but according to espn the Bills are currently the sixth seed. Its time to root for the Browns in a huge upset against the Ravens and Despite the draft pick we need KC to beat the Chargers (Thursday night football). Sorry merge thread I just saw it was already posted based on the CBS standings Wait why do we need KC to beat the Chargers? If the Chargers win the division, and we're competing against KC for the WC isn't that what we want? Perhaps through lack of use, playoff tiebreakers are opaque to me Edited December 12, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wait why do we need KC to beat the Chargers? If the Chargers win the division, and we're competing against KC for the WC isn't that what we want? That's how I feel too but I don't know all tie breaker scenarios. If both us and KC finish 9-7, we beat them, we would get in I think. Chargers take the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Bills in six seed until Sunday. Then fall off the cliff. Count on it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wait why do we need KC to beat the Chargers? If the Chargers win the division, and we're competing against KC for the WC isn't that what we want? Perhaps through lack of use, playoff tiebreakers are opaque to me Yeah, it has been known for a little while that we'd pretty much like the Chargers to run the table. Edited December 12, 2017 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Bills in six seed until Sunday. Then fall off the cliff. Count on it, I'm looking forward to the day you fall off a cliff. that will be a good day. count on it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said: http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/261235/nfl-playoff-picture-updated-seeds-after-week-14 I didn't realize this but according to espn the Bills are currently the sixth seed. Its time to root for the Browns in a huge upset against the Ravens and Despite the draft pick we need KC to beat the Chargers (Thursday night football). Sorry merge thread I just saw it was already posted based on the CBS standings Are you sure? Because in one of the other 612 threads about this, there was a link that said we were the 8th seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 50 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think head to head is ahead of conference record for tie breakers. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Sports Illustrated has the Bills 8th currently because they applied everything. Head to head goes out the window when there are 3 or more-way ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Tatonka68 said: Bills in six seed until Sunday. Then fall off the cliff. Count on it, I agree with you the Bills have a tendency to choke when it comes down to big games. I see the Bills finishing at 7-9 as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 47 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: I'm looking forward to the day you fall off a cliff. that will be a good day. count on it. I fall of a cliff every time the Bills do. count on it. I hope they win, but I know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, dlonce said: Why does this bother you or anyone else? look at all the idiotic threads started by the same people. Watching last nights game they had Baltimore as the sixth seed and that was ESPN. Projection? So that's an excuse to be idiotic yourself? Why does it "bother me"? - because having the same conversation 6 times is a bit ridiculous Also isn't it against the Code of Conduct here. Edited December 12, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills13131313 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Do we hold a tiebreak with Tennessee if we both finish 9-7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Wouldn't it be better for the Chargers to keep winning and take that division? LA has us on tiebreakers. KC does not. I think the current three-way tie actually places us in sixth, technically. It won't finish this way as teams accrue more common opponents and conference records change, but for now: Bills in sixth. I think you're correct. The rules differ, depending on whether there's a two-way tie for a spot or three or more. So head-to-head with the Chargers doesn't matter because it's a three-way tie with the Ravens. The ESPN listing showing Bills sixth is where they are right now. I'd guess what SI is doing is looking at some things that are going to be true by the end of the season like, as someone said, the Dolphins. Once the Bills play the Dolphins the four-common-opponent tie-breaker will kick in and apparently the Ravens have the Bills there, even if the Bills beat the Dolphins. As a practical matter, all we need to know is that the Bills need to keep winning or tying. Once they get to 7 losses, the chances are slim that the tie-breakers will do it for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seregil42 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 38 minutes ago, Bills13131313 said: Do we hold a tiebreak with Tennessee if we both finish 9-7? Looks to me (and I could be wrong) that it would depend on how the Titans finish 9-7. One of those losses would have to be against Jacksonville. That would tie us for conference record. Assuming we sweep the Dolphins, I think common opponents wouldn't apply, so it would go to strength of victory, which Buffalo currently holds the tie breaker. But, the Titans also face the Rams and Jaguars in their final two games, so that could change things (I really don't want to do the math on it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think you're correct. The rules differ, depending on whether there's a two-way tie for a spot or three or more. So head-to-head with the Chargers doesn't matter because it's a three-way tie with the Ravens. The ESPN listing showing Bills sixth is where they are right now. I'd guess what SI is doing is looking at some things that are going to be true by the end of the season like, as someone said, the Dolphins. Once the Bills play the Dolphins the four-common-opponent tie-breaker will kick in and apparently the Ravens have the Bills there, even if the Bills beat the Dolphins. As a practical matter, all we need to know is that the Bills need to keep winning or tying. Once they get to 7 losses, the chances are slim that the tie-breakers will do it for them. It is slimmer but still have a chance and it's not completely unrealistic to get in at 9-7. I think we would have the tie breaker over Tennessee if they get to 9-7? LA or KC would have to lose at least 2 more times at one of those losses will be each other on Saturday night. 1 minute ago, seregil42 said: Looks to me (and I could be wrong) that it would depend on how the Titans finish 9-7. One of those losses would have to be against Jacksonville. That would tie us for conference record. Assuming we sweep the Dolphins, I think common opponents wouldn't apply, so it would go to strength of victory, which Buffalo currently holds the tie breaker. But, the Titans also face the Rams and Jaguars in their final two games, so that could change things (I really don't want to do the math on it). Scoreboard watching with TN and SF this weekend....Marriotta may not play and maybe Jimmy G revitalizes that offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Best scenario for Bills Steelers Jags pats Chargers Bills Ravens Ravens beat the pats and we face off against the chargers again. Although if you want best chance at a win it would be us against the chiefs but that hurts our draft. Then we could get the Jags against our old boy marrone! ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 The Bills just need to win. !@#$ everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think head to head is ahead of conference record for tie breakers. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Sports Illustrated has the Bills 8th currently because they applied everything. NFL.com holds more weight. Trust them through all the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: NFL.com holds more weight. Trust them through all the confusion. They made a change in the last 24 hours. http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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