YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Will it help or hurt? I would think it would hurt but its been so bad anyway even with TT... Edited November 15, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 In theory should help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 A better passing attack would help the run game since there will be less men in the box. McCoy had a monster year with Nick Foles, he runs like Frankenstein. that said, teams are going to load up the box until NP proves he can beat them down field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 It’s up to Peterman. If the defense focuses on stoping the run and dare him to beat them with his arm, well Peterman has to make them pay. Then we become a balanced attack and can’t focus on one aspect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I'm expecting total disaster on sudden but am at peace about it for the long-term outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 I agree Royale. Coming into this year o didn’t care if they stayed the #1 rushing team. I wanted them to become a balanced offense because that’s how you win games. You have to be able to throw the ball too. They were incredibly unbalanced last year - 1st in rushing and last in passing. That is why they looked good in the stats but couldn’t win games late at clutch time like Seattle. We had to make the throws to win and we couldn’t do it. The problem is now they can’t run OR pass. They may be able to pass to set up the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Peterman is sneaky mobile. I will bet that he runs for more yards Sunday than TT did last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 It's not the QB it's the 0C. You want to see this running game look at footage from the 0rton years. That will be our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 It's almost like they didn't watch Peterman Scramble in preseason. Is he the athlete that Tyrod is absolutely not, but he showed he is no one trick pony and has a little speed to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 He called an audible and the LBs looked at each other and yelled out KILL KILL!!! I can't remember the last time that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: He called an audible and the LBs looked at each other and yelled out KILL KILL!!! I can't remember the last time that happened. So Peterman is allowed to audible? I thought TT wasn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Getting the ball out quickly negates the rush. If NP only throws short, I don’t think that helps the run. If he can have some success in the intermediate area 10-25 then they have to back off. Which comes back to the O line and how much it is to blame and how much TT was. They might just have the desire to hold their blocks if it is leading to success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Dennison wasn't really utilizing TT's legs during the run game anyway. He should have, but rarely did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Every opponents game plan is to stop McCoy. Just as you saw the past two weeks, the defense will stack the line and dare Peterman to beat them. If he does they will back of and we will be able to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, Bob in STL said: Every opponents game plan is to stop McCoy. Just as you saw the past two weeks, the defense will stack the line and dare Peterman to beat them. If he does they will back of and we will be able to run. Even if he doesn't beat them on every play in the passing game, hopefully just the THREAT of a downfield passing game will help the running game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 54 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: A better passing attack would help the run game since there will be less men in the box. McCoy had a monster year with Nick Foles, he runs like Frankenstein. that said, teams are going to load up the box until NP proves he can beat them down field. This is 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Tyrod always had the best per carry numbers, so in that way it hurts... ...but if the passing game gets better with NP, it should clear the 8th man out of the box amd open up the running lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Will it help or hurt? I would think it would hurt but its been so bad anyway even with TT... Bucky assumes teams haven't stacked the box the last two weeks anyway seeing TT as only a running threat. And even with that threat teams are able to make TT a non-issue. Better passing game/threat of passing attack opens the run game far more, just as the run opens up play action. 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: A better passing attack would help the run game since there will be less men in the box. McCoy had a monster year with Nick Foles, he runs like Frankenstein. that said, teams are going to load up the box until NP proves he can beat them down field. Agreed - NP is still as green as a rookie QB can be at this point in their first season. Therefore, the Chargers will still focus on pressuring him in multiple looks most every down to see what happens. They don't exactly need to give up much to achieve that either with Bosa and Ingram. If NP can't handle the pressure, especially with our OL, we're not likely to see much of an offensive change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I don't see a huge impact to the traditional run game. Dennison wasn't using the zone read to hold opposing front-7's much anyway, so the only real difference will be the removal of Taylor's ability to turn broken plays into big-gainers. With Peterman, you're more likely to see run-for-a-first-down-and-slide type plays instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: In theory should help I would disagree. They are going to load the box and tempt a rookie to try and beat them, which will also make NP job harder if there is a poor run game to help him move the chains. A rookie who completed just 50% of his passes in preseason against scrubs isnt going to instill fear in defense downfield to the point it opens the run game up. Its going to take success by NP in the passing game before they start to respect it, and the flip side of that is, without an effective run game its asking a lot of a 5th round rookie to somehow consistently push the ball down field in his first start. Im excited to see what he can do, but its going to take some early success before it potentially helps the run game. So I think the rung game will likely get worse before it gets better in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 We have some pretty good 6'2+ WR's and TE, you have to really suck to not be able to get them the rock. Any young QB would be salivating to have this receiving core, Ntm he look like he developed a connection with Zay. This can get very interesting in a few more days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Pro: Defense might be required to respect the passing game if Peterman hits a couple passes on a stacked box. Con: QB is no longer a real threat when it comes to scrambles, read options, and called QB runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 the passing game compliments the run game and vice versa the problem was we had no effective passing game. Even Rex Ryan recognized that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 11:19 AM, Maine-iac said: It's not the QB it's the 0C. You want to see this running game look at footage from the 0rton years. That will be our offense. This. The OC and OL combo has ruined the run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 23 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would disagree. They are going to load the box and tempt a rookie to try and beat them, which will also make NP job harder if there is a poor run game to help him move the chains. A rookie who completed just 50% of his passes in preseason against scrubs isnt going to instill fear in defense downfield to the point it opens the run game up. Its going to take success by NP in the passing game before they start to respect it, and the flip side of that is, without an effective run game its asking a lot of a 5th round rookie to somehow consistently push the ball down field in his first start. Im excited to see what he can do, but its going to take some early success before it potentially helps the run game. So I think the rung game will likely get worse before it gets better in that respect. That's exactly what they've been doing already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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