Lurker Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 You have to make that throw to win. It's what it takes in the NFL. Is called clutch... No doubt...if you have the arm talent of a Brady or Rogers. TT is a mid-pack QB on his best day. And today wasn't that day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I don't think you'd have to be one of the greatest QBs of all time to make that throw, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I don't think you'd have to be one of the greatest QBs of all time to make that throw, imo. Make the throw? No. By all means, let her rip. Even a cave man can do it. Get the completion? Quite a bit harder. And it helps if you're at least good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I can't wait til TT is gone. I like the guy, but a NFL QB he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Make the throw? No. By all means, let her rip. Even a cave man can do it. Get the completion? Quite a bit harder. And it helps if you're at least good... That's what I mean. I feel like over half of the QBs in the league can complete that pass. Definitely not an easy pass, but maybe like a 6.5/10 difficulty. But yeah it helps if you're good and you have to be able to see the guy 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100DollarBills Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I can't wait til TT is gone. I like the guy, but a NFL QB he is not. This year can't go fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I heard what Beuerlein said and Clay was not wide open, but Tyrod should have gotten rid of the ball. I agree. Clay is not wide open on this play but he was there, and Tyrod has to take a chance on that play. With the game on the line like that, he cannot afford to hold onto the ball that long and take the sack. I'm not a Tyrod hater, but he deserves criticism for a play like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) What the hell are you looking at in the bottom pic. I see nothing. The CB at the bottom of the shot (at the 40) has outside position. He also has no help underneath. Thats a throw he should make before WR even makes the cut. Edited October 9, 2017 by MDH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 No need to insult him. He probably is not that knowledgeable. Clay was plenty open enough if Tyrod put the ball in the right spot but he is not able to see him. If you watch video t the end, Clay crosses field and is a good foot and half in front of db. Did you need t watch the whole thing?? And also a safety watching his every move getting ready to jump the route. I mean, it's possible, but I bet the safety gets there to either defend the pass or lay him out immediately. That's a long throw, and the time it takes the ball to get there, the defenders will be swarming. A replay was televised of the all 22 straight down onto the field from a helicopter type view... It was the play Tyrod got sacked on. I couldn't catch who the receiver was, but a Bills receiver was crossing the field a good 15 or 20 yards out, from Tyrod's right to his left. He had single man coverage and his man was a good 2 steps behind him the whole way chasing him across the field... Tyrod never saw him and took the sack. It's hard to analyze this stuff b/c TV coverage of football is terrible...if you are trying to see what is going on down field. Yep. THAT'S the guy he should have hit on that play. Much easier throw and he was more open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) The DB was right where he needed tp be in trail technique, As a small WR, Clay isn't big enough to shield the guy and it would have took a perfect pass to make that completion. Not making excuses for TT, who could have tried fitting it in anyway--but that by no means is an "open" guy unless we're talking Brady, Rogers or maybe 2-3 other QBs... "... in trail technique." I absolutely love this. You know what they call "trail technique" when there's no safety over the top or anyone else around? They call it getting beat. You're right that he wasn't wide open, but he was open for the first down. The CB is both half a yard downfield of him and a couple of yards to Tyrod's right as Clay runs across the field to the left. It takes a good throw but not a great one. It's nonsense that that throw takes a Brady to make. If you can't make that throw with consistency you're not a franchise QB and probably not a QB that will ever have a team sticking with you for long as a starter. Edited October 9, 2017 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I agree. Clay is not wide open on this play but he was there, and Tyrod has to take a chance on that play. With the game on the line like that, he cannot afford to hold onto the ball that long and take the sack. I'm not a Tyrod hater, but he deserves criticism for a play like this. Make the throw and trust him to catch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Make the throw and trust him to catch it. Only about the 1452nd time we've seen that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The one think you do is don't take a sack....just don't take a sack with 3:00 minutes left in the game. He held the ball for over 4 seconds....then took a sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The one think you do is don't take a sack....just don't take a sack with 3:00 minutes left in the game. He held the ball for over 4 seconds....then took a sack. Typical Tyrod correction Typical Tentative Tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 It is pretty sad you have been on here for 58k post and don't understand football enough to see Clay has plenty of separation. Listen to announcer he sees it. Actually....what you should stop doing is listening to the announcers like they have any idea of what is going on in a particular play that is a mistake that common fans make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The DB is right there in Clay's hip pocket. That's what I see, with a deep S.. the crossing route is an option but he has barely any separation there himself.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Actually....what you should stop doing is listening to the announcers like they have any idea of what is going on in a particular play that is a mistake that common fans make Paging Jay Feely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Make the throw and trust him to catch it. Gotta make that throw. Maybe it gets defended but you gotta have trust in your guy, and you got a chance at p.i... with their 2 top cbs down, challenge that inexperienced secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Gotta make that throw. Maybe it gets defended but you gotta have trust in your guy, and you got a chance at p.i... with their 2 top cbs down, challenge that inexperienced secondary Yep. Pass defended....2nd and 10. Taking the sack....2nd and 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 What am I looking at? Fuzzy blotches? Which WR are you saying was open (allegedly?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 What am I looking at? Fuzzy blotches? Which WR are you saying was open (allegedly?) You're right Promo. No one was open and he was justified to take the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 no one is every "wide-open" in the NFL. TT only seems to throw the ball on the rare occassion when someone is "wide-open." With our running game in shambles due to the new blocking "scheme," this offense is terrible. Hopefully we draft a QB, WR, OL, and FIRE DENNISON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) TT only seems to throw the ball on the rare occassion when someone is "wide-open." Yep. Good thing Tate was so wide open on that TD toss. Must have been a dropped coverage... Seriously, the thing that did stand out on the Tate throw was that TT had a throwing lane. And all his sacks / hold the ball misses came when he didn't. The Bengals had a great game plan for him. Run the outside rush wide to keep him penned in the pocket and clog the inside up so he can't see as well. We will likely see more of this now that game film is available... Edited October 9, 2017 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Yep. Good thing Tate was so wide open on that TD toss. Must have been a dropped coverage... Good point. Now we can check off that TT did indeed throw to someone effectively who wasn't "wide open" in the game and now use it as a blanket excuse to cover him for all the rest of the times that he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Good point. Now we can check off that TT did indeed throw to someone effectively who wasn't "wide open" in the game and now use it as a blanket excuse to cover him for all the rest of the times that he didn't. See "throwing lane" above..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I see this also. Is he with David Blaine now ? Chris Angel mind freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 You're right Promo. No one was open and he was justified to take the sack. That photo is not clear enough to know who was open. You don't have to act like my wife because I don't agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 That photo is not clear enough to know who was open. You don't have to act like my wife because I don't agree with you. No, you're right. He shouldn't have thrown it, it's not clear who was open. The sack was justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 That photo is not clear enough to know who was open. You don't have to act like my wife because I don't agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 That photo is not clear enough to know who was open. You don't have to act like my wife because I don't agree with you I don't think he was wide open, but I think he has to step up and take a shot at that. Especially under the circumstances late in the game trailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I don't think he was wide open, but I think he has to step up and take a shot at that. Especially under the circumstances late in the game trailing For this to happen taylor has to mentally shift gears before the series starts. He can't do that. He has proven over and over he has one way to play the game and it doesn't include the ability to take a chance on either his or the receiver's ability to make a play when the odds on success are long. There is no gambler in taylor. He's hit his ceiling ...HARD and the team is paying for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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