Fan in San Diego Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I don't watch ESPN hardly at all, but I noticed the MNF product sucked ass compared to the NFL's TNF package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Two sports entertainment businesses going in opposite directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Along with the cord cutters, NFL Network has taken a lot of their NFL viewers. Over the years I watch less and less sports and other than MNF which I no longer watch cause I dont have ESPN, I have no desire to have ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloaf Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I just miss highlights that actually told the story of the game instead of just a couple big plays. I'll see big plays on Twitter or the RedZone channel anyhow. Even the NFL Network highlight show is going downhill. I tried to watch this week and it didn't seem like they showed more than a couple plays from each game. The rest of it was Deion Sanders yapping on about something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 A lot of old men yelling at clouds here, as it always is when ESPN comes up. I'd say the anchors on ESPN do far more yelling on their shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Maybe ESPN is tired of giving the NFL hours of advertising and millions (billions) of dollars for garbage Monday night football games. Maybe interest in the NFL is declining precipitously and ESPN is trying to appeal to a broader audience. Want NFL coverage? Watch NFL net, they've been doing a better job than ESPN for almost a decade at this point. It's an on demand society, there's a podcast out there for any in-depth individual topic one may want able to be downloaded and listened to whenever your time allows. The belief that Espn should air non-stop highlights while two guys crack bad jokes is incredibly out of touch. This used to be true. Then NFL Network became the New England Patriots/Dallas Cowboys/Pittsburgh Steelers/Green Bay Packers Network. I just miss highlights that actually told the story of the game instead of just a couple big plays. I'll see big plays on Twitter or the RedZone channel anyhow. Even the NFL Network highlight show is going downhill. I tried to watch this week and it didn't seem like they showed more than a couple plays from each game. The rest of it was Deion Sanders yapping on about something. Absolutely. The NFL Network Highlight Show, in my opinion, has been average from the start. I thought since it was NFL Network, that their highlight show would be like NFL Primetime, only bigger and better. Well it sure isn't. Their coverage is pathetic. Michael Irvin & Deion Sanders are unbearable. They will devote 15-20 minutes on one game, then 15-20 seconds on another game. It is sad. I recently watched NFL Primetime's first episode of this season. My God, how things have changed. Why is Trey Wingo and everyone else yelling? What's even worse, there were two games that they didn't even show highlights from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Espn needs to get back involved with major professional sports broadcasts. You turn them on and you are more likely to find regular season college basketball, or drone racing, or little league baseball, or soccer...They need to find a way to get more live games on, that people in this country actually care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Let's keep this thread politics free. If you want to discuss ESPN and political views, go to this thread https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/196321-espn-tried-to-take-jemele-hill-off-the-airand-failed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) Let's keep this thread politics free. If you want to discuss ESPN and political views, go to this thread https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/196321-espn-tried-to-take-jemele-hill-off-the-airand-failed/ no prob.. but sometimes threads do veer.. and speaking for myself, i do not realize there are other thread(s) sometimes dealing with similar content Edited September 15, 2017 by dwight in philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I cut every cord to the house except for power and water. I use my phone's hotspot. $118 a month for unlimited unthrottled Verizon because I am God $118 a month is absurdly expensive. I pay $29.99 for super fast internet via cable. I pay about another $15.00 a month for tracphone works great also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 $118 a month is absurdly expensive. I pay $29.99 for super fast internet via cable. I pay about another $15.00 a month for tracphone works great also.it's worth it for tinder, man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I gave up ESPN years ago. Such a shame- it used to be great! First they fired Schwaby after 28 years- http://www.businessinsider.com/schwab-slams-espn-letter-firing-2013-6 Then they try and kill hockey- burying highlights to 3 second clips following WNBA hghlights. Then since disney bought it-it is PC, into drama, over produced, disloyal, greedy, watered down, unwatchable....... I now go to MLB.com, NFL.com, and NHL.com. !@#$ espn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 The belief that Espn should air non-stop highlights while two guys crack bad jokes is incredibly out of touch. Chuck Wagon. Cool as the other side of the pillow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) It seems like they have gone all in on the NBA. Even in their off-season, Lebron and Steph Curry are all they seem to cover. Good point. They want to be Taken Seriously, as Journalists. But come on, man. I just want to zone out and watch highlights. I think that you are right here Gug. In general to the interest in the NFL has started to decline while the NBA and college football are on the rise. They've spread their coverage (even incorporating a bunch more boxing). It feels like they want to spread their coverage a little more than in the past. I just miss highlights that actually told the story of the game instead of just a couple big plays. I'll see big plays on Twitter or the RedZone channel anyhow. Even the NFL Network highlight show is going downhill. I tried to watch this week and it didn't seem like they showed more than a couple plays from each game. The rest of it was Deion Sanders yapping on about something. Coverage/highlights are all about ESPN's agreements with the different leagues. They have a decent agreement with the NBA, so it doesnt cost them an arm and a leg to get highlight clips, and we get a lot of NBA coverage. They obviously have a great deal with College Football, broadcast most of the games, so we get a ton of College Football coverage. The NFL jacked up their costs a few years back, to give the advantage to their own station, the NFL Network. ESPN gets less highlight clips, so therefore can't play as many on air. Remember on Sunday nights how Berman and Tommy would go through a good 10-15 plays each game? No way they can afford all that coverage now, so they don't do it. They have little to no agreement with the NHL, who made their deal with NBC/NBCSports, so we see almost zero hockey coverage. Each league/sport has a different deal in place, and they dictate the amount of coverage each league gets. NFL priced themselves out a while back for NFLN, that's the main reason we've seen such a drop in quality NFL coverage on the channel. Edited September 15, 2017 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Everything evolves. When I was growing up there wasn't an ESPN or an MTV. One of them is already irrelevant and ESPN is in a race to become the next to fall. The people running the network have lost sight of their mission statement...and it shows in the product. McDonalds shouldn't try to sell salads, MTV should have stuck to music, and ESPN shoutgo back to covering sports! Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I'd say the anchors on ESPN do far more yelling on their shows. ...EXACTLY....a precipitous fall from the sports penthouse to the outhouse in short order..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 all these sportscenter people try to overshadow the athletes with their shtick I discovered, not that long ago, this creepy bald guy with the glasses who seems to be ESPN's #1 on-air personality at the moment...he had his studio sort of decorated as an homage to himself complete with his own bobble-head and what not.... In 20 seconds I could see where he/ESPN were going with the whole thing, marketing this idiot as a source of entertainment himself instead of a reporter of sports information. I quickly turned the channel and really haven't been back since, unless I'm watching a live sporting event of some kind which happens to be on ESPN. The whole concept of ESPN, the TV sports news channel, has little relevance in today's world. No one more than sports fans gets their information via sources other than live TV. The idea of being pinned down to a specific time slot to "watch" sports news content is absurd in today's world... And none of this is some huge, gripping, peace in the Middle East type news story... It's mostly light and fluffy. You just want to know who won, what the score was, who's injured, who's going to play on Sunday....that type of thing. The internet and cell phones were made for that type of sound byte information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Imo its become more about drama. They have gone almost full 24/7 news bantor and opinion. They had some success with afternoon shows but have used that model for everything. Imo double down on sports coverage. More actually injury reporting than spectualtion. Football is most popular sport. Why? Its the easist and least complicated sport to bet on. So that should be there contend. ESPN is slipping because they are the last to get information and are becoming less and less accurate. More individual player matchups in team and weekly game predictions. Overal their coverage has slipped and the highlights are easjer to get for your individual teams. So many sources flr information and easier ways to stream contend they want to watch. 24/7 talk tv is dying. Disney has alot of content. Alway a user to sign up for espn directly. Pull regional coverage into their streaming umbrella and let people watch the games theh want. Put more money into sports commentators and less into o air personalities. What bothers me most about ESPN is the same complaint I have about CNN and FOX: 24/7 sports (news) coverage is not practical so they almost have to go out of their way to dramatize everything in order to justify their existence. Instead of just showing me unadulterated sports or news, they need to tell me and show me how i should feel about sports or news. Its blipping nauseating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 They are showing a lot of different sports now as well, changing from all NFL all the time to something with broader appeal. For example Saturdays and Sundays they carry a lot of live English Premier League football (soccer) games, and during the week you will see games from the Italian, Spanish, and German leagues as well as international competitions. So the S in espn stands for soccer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Coverage/highlights are all about ESPN's agreements with the different leagues. They have a decent agreement with the NBA, so it doesnt cost them an arm and a leg to get highlight clips, and we get a lot of NBA coverage. They obviously have a great deal with College Football, broadcast most of the games, so we get a ton of College Football coverage. The NFL jacked up their costs a few years back, to give the advantage to their own station, the NFL Network. ESPN gets less highlight clips, so therefore can't play as many on air. Remember on Sunday nights how Berman and Tommy would go through a good 10-15 plays each game? No way they can afford all that coverage now, so they don't do it. They have little to no agreement with the NHL, who made their deal with NBC/NBCSports, so we see almost zero hockey coverage. Each league/sport has a different deal in place, and they dictate the amount of coverage each league gets. NFL priced themselves out a while back for NFLN, that's the main reason we've seen such a drop in quality NFL coverage on the channel. Know it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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