Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 But is this model really working for them? Seems all you hear all over is "no way am I paying for a subscription" I'm sure there are many that do pay, but would they be further ahead with putting ads on the pages? There's just too much free stuff out there to justify paying. Since the TV and radio stations aren't competing for print, they'll likely always be free so that takes away many who'd even think about paying. Newspapers should charge people for their content. Reporters and editors don't work for free. I'm just saying I won't pay for Buffalo News sports coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Time to stop linking BN stories to two bills drive for as long as they wish to charge 2.99 per month for them. Sent from my LGLS992 using Tapatalk Absolutely. And to stop listing them on twobillsdrive homepage. Crowds out other stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) But is this model really working for them? Seems all you hear all over is "no way am I paying for a subscription" I'm sure there are many that do pay, but would they be further ahead with putting ads on the pages? There's just too much free stuff out there to justify paying. Since the TV and radio stations aren't competing for print, they'll likely always be free so that takes away many who'd even think about paying. Most people that pay for it don't find it necessary to go on Twitter or wherever and declare they've paid $2.99/mo IMO. It seems to be the exact opposite for those who chose not to pay. As for ad revenue, I've heard it takes an obscene amount of "clicks" to generate the same revenue for a story that a single monthly subscription can provide. I believe it was the editor of the new hockey site The Athletic that laid out this premise. To those that think paywalls will fail/succeed should focus on that site. They're assembling an all-star roster of writers, too. Edited September 11, 2017 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Less than the price of a cup of coffee per month is reasonable to me. I only read some of the articles but I don't mind paying. Edit: that's for all of BN Blitz. I haven't read any of Sully's stuff for years. Edited September 11, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'd rather read you guys complain about Jerry than read Jerry. I never click. I'm sure there is some nugget worthwhile at times, but there are just so many options for news and opinion...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I quite reading anything Jerry had to say almost two years ago. That guy brings zero value to the table. The Bills could win the Super Bowl and he would complain it only took them seventeen years or rewrite how they should of won in the 90's. The guy is negative energy and needs to find a new gig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Absolutely. And to stop listing them on twobillsdrive homepage. Crowds out other stuff These comments would be better in "Two Bills Drive Redesign" Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 But is this model really working for them? Seems all you hear all over is "no way am I paying for a subscription" I'm sure there are many that do pay, but would they be further ahead with putting ads on the pages? There's just too much free stuff out there to justify paying. Since the TV and radio stations aren't competing for print, they'll likely always be free so that takes away many who'd even think about paying. I'll admit it. I used to read some of the BN links, and probably read Sully more than the others. But you know what? Put it behind a $2.99 paywall and you learn a lot about how much value it brings. Namely ... little or none. I won't pay it even though it's certainly not exorbitant. And the bigger problem: BN, you've got a ridiculous number of Bills columnists on the payroll. There's not enough news or informed commentary to go around. Kind of like paying to read some of the posts on TSW ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The issue with Buffalo News is they have spent so much time bashing the Bills including the owner that they have very little access other than what is required by league so there is only very slanted opinions left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) But is this model really working for them? Seems all you hear all over is "no way am I paying for a subscription" I'm sure there are many that do pay, but would they be further ahead with putting ads on the pages? There's just too much free stuff out there to justify paying. Since the TV and radio stations aren't competing for print, they'll likely always be free so that takes away many who'd even think about paying. The "free" content is often lifted from other newspapers and websites. Someone has to generate content and if everything is free how do you get paid? Things like banner ads, etc help but don't pay all the bills. I actually have a concept in mind to monetize web content. If anyone knows how to develop web apps, PM me. Edited September 13, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I have done some research and, as of this morning, I have come up with 13 different ways to view the Buffalo News articles without having a subscription. And none of them involve anything illegal, like stealing login credentials or anything like that. However, I will not list them on the web site or the message board or PM any of you - I don't want to get SDS in trouble. All I can say is that I found them online by searching for them, and one of the ways is to simply add an certain extension onto a Google Chrome browser. Good luck hunting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Who is paying to read sad sap Sully's downerism? http://buffalonews.com/subscribe-bills/ Tell me: who? I for one am very grateful for the paywall. It keeps me from accidentally giving clicks to articles on BN. I just wish TBD would aggregate all the BN articles just like the "out of town" news that comes in late each week. That way I could easily skip over the stuff I won't read anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I for one am very grateful for the paywall. It keeps me from accidentally giving clicks to articles on BN. I just wish TBD would aggregate all the BN articles just like the "out of town" news that comes in late each week. That way I could easily skip over the stuff I won't read anyway. Exactly...establishes the final hurdle preventing me from getting sucked into a Bucky/Sully column...Thank you BN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I certainly am. Jerry Sullivan has done yeoman's work for years covering this team and he's not afraid to tell it is and not going to give credit unless this team deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) I certainly am. Jerry Sullivan has done yeoman's work for years covering this team and he's not afraid to tell it is and not going to give credit unless this team deserves it. That's one interpretation. Mine is he's betting on failure and mailing his columns in. If all he can say about McDermott after he was hired was "he reminds me of tough-guy Gregg Williams," it shows Jerry didn't waste a brain cell doing any research or learning a thing about the Bills hire. Betting on failure. Edited September 15, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 check this out, 45 seconds mark, the reaction from Vic and Skurski to Sullivan's opinion is priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Jerrys mom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I have done some research and, as of this morning, I have come up with 13 different ways to view the Buffalo News articles without having a subscription. And none of them involve anything illegal, like stealing login credentials or anything like that. However, I will not list them on the web site or the message board or PM any of you - I don't want to get SDS in trouble. All I can say is that I found them online by searching for them, and one of the ways is to simply add an certain extension onto a Google Chrome browser. Good luck hunting! Well, aren't you special... PS...is that ur real face or just some really pretty avatar you found online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I wont do it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 These comments would be better in "Two Bills Drive Redesign" Forum. Naw. I think the comments belong here. I think they are fine and fit the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Naw. I think the comments belong here. I think they are fine and fit the topic. furthermore, more people will see them here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchammer Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 like some people have said. Just do a google search and you can easily access the Buffalo News site for free. I use Chrome as a web browser but you can use the same method using Explorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 You couldn't pay me to read those articles. I hate the BN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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