Spurna Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Edited August 28, 2017 by Spurna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Not a chance. 100% agree with Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Shady said it best...he isn't talented enough to deal with the 3 ring circus he brings along...I actually said the exact same thing a few days before he was interviewed about it. Same reason Tebow is out of the NFL...backups can't be 3 ring media circuses. At minimum your ability level has to exceed your media attention level. His doesn't. Edited August 28, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Would say no, but if we were in a dire situation where TT wasn't ready for week one, I would rather take a shot with Kap than Yates or most other options. I'd take Hill over him but can't really think of any others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Yes. Watch the tape of his playoff games shredding Green Bay's defense with his arm and legs. It's a thing of beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I'd have no problem at all with him being on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 No thank you . I guess one could make a case for bringing the circus in to supplement this clown show, but I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Yes. Watch the tape of his playoff games shredding Green Bay's defense with his arm and legs. It's a thing of beauty. It was. He was a better player three or four years ago than he is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 It was. He was a better player three or four years ago than he is now. I'd say he is the same player, D coordinators just figured out what he was doing and took it away, and he had no answer...kinda like a pitcher that only throws a fastball..once hitters start timing it out, he doesn't have much to fall back on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I'd say he is the same player, D coordinators just figured out what he was doing and took it away, and he had no answer...kinda like a pitcher that only throws a fastball..once hitters start timing it out, he doesn't have much to fall back on... He lost some muscle the past couple years, presumably due to his vegan diet. The fast ball isn't as fast, among other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_perc_career.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I'd say he is the same player, D coordinators just figured out what he was doing and took it away, and he had no answer...kinda like a pitcher that only throws a fastball..once hitters start timing it out, he doesn't have much to fall back on... Â He lost some muscle the past couple years, presumably due to his vegan diet. The fast ball isn't as fast, among other things. Â He wasn't really that bad on a horrid 49ers team last season with 16 TDs and just 4 ints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Â Â He wasn't really that bad on a horrid 49ers team last season with 16 TDs and just 4 ints. 9 fumbles though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Morally and ethically is have zero issue. Distractions from something like this worry me little (strong teams shouldn't be broken by something this minor). Â The only problem I see is cap space, talent and fit to scheme. Â If we could benefit from him limiting his own job market and get him on the cheap for a 2-3 year deal and go into next offseason with Taylor, peterman, kaepernick and a high pick as the depth chart battling it out I would be pretty ok. Edited August 28, 2017 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 i would accept him on the team knowing he isn't a good qb. disirregardless who we bring in, the only smart thing to do is sign him for a week and cut him. Â i would not accept the media using it as an attack on buffalo, the constant media narrative of his cause, the entire situation surrounding all of it. Â when we cut him it won't end, it'll be buffalo is racist. it'll be kaep is still jesus. Morally and ethically is have zero issue. Distractions from something like this worry me little (strong teams shouldn't be broken by something this minor).The only problem I see is cap space, talent and fit to scheme.If we could benefit from him limiting his own job market and get him on the cheap for a 2-3 year deal and go into next offseason with Taylor, peterman, kaepernick and a high pick as the depth chart battling it out I would be pretty ok. the contract isn't even something i would consider - but if i do than i have no desire for him on this team. Â knowing what we would have to sign him for to rent him a week is insane. and that's why i think it is media driven hype to say he would come here. Â i would rather a joe blow college schmuck come take snaps for a week than give him a $1mm for more piggy socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurna Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 it'll be buffalo is racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 how is that racist?  it's not.  #blueteesmatter  anyway, going down this rabbit hole is not for this thread. go to ppp and it's on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 He lost some muscle the past couple years, presumably due to his vegan diet. The fast ball isn't as fast, among other things. Yeah but when you only really do one thing well, its not hard to take it away either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Nothing racist about those shirts. Take your crusade to pp&p .This is the football forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurna Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Nothing racist about those shirts. Take your crusade to pp&p .This is the football forum  I'm sure the Trump circlejerk forum will happily explain why a picture depicting a black man with a crosshair across his chest is not racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) I'm sure the Trump circlejerk forum will happily explain why a picture depicting a black man with a crosshair across his chest is not racist Well, CK happens to be black. What if he were white, would that be racist too? The shirts depict CK because of a different reason than his race. That is obvious. Edited August 28, 2017 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Â No, I would not. Because he's black. Â Now go feel validated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 No way. Some things are bigger than football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurna Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Well, CK happens to be black. What if he were white, would that be racist too? The shirts depict CK because of a different reason than his race. That is obvious. Â What is he protesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I would. But there's no way Buffalo as a city would go for it. Â Also, he's much too expensive as a stop gap, when we have one in Taylor already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Â No, I would not. Because he's black. Â Now go feel validated. win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) OP, please don't ask. I hate for my home town football fans to show that side of its character. Let's stick to sharing our love for the same football team. Edited August 28, 2017 by leonbus23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017  What is he protesting? who cares   Also, he's much too expensive as a stop gap, when we have one in Taylor already. that's the biggest factor in this. for even just $1mm i'd not do it. not for 1 week. I'd give $500k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) What is he protesting? I'm not sure exactly what he was protesting by not rising to honor America during the playing of the anthem like everyone else. But he's as much of an idiot as the guy sitting down while he scarfs Nachos with his hat on in row 5. Is that guy " protesting" too? No he's just an idiot. Edited August 28, 2017 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Â What is he protesting? By not standing for the National Anthem, I think he must be protesting the United States of America, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 If TT was out for a long time, absolutely. Â And anyways, I've said it before and I'll say it again: this board is always better when people are pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 who cares  that's the biggest factor in this. for even just $1mm i'd not do it. not for 1 week. I'd give $500k What's the 1 week angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 By not standing for the National Anthem, I think he must be protesting the United States of America, right? Perhaps. Maybe he should go elsewhere if he thinks it's so bad here, in a Country where he can make millions to play a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Right now the Bills QB's might be better than the WR's. I still feel that with a decent receiver group TT would have a good season. Maybe there will still be a WR upgrade before opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 No. Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I don't care if they call us racist or not I don't want his ass on this team. Is kneeling down and essentially pissing on the national anthem is pure bull crap if people don't like my opinion on it I don't really give a damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I don't care if they call us racist or not I don't want his ass on this team. Is kneeling down and essentially pissing on the national anthem is pure bull crap if people don't like my opinion on it I don't really give a damn Kelly, I don't often agree with you. But I'm right there with you man. I love how football can bring a community together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I'm as patriotic as the next guy, both grandparents served and survived with valor and honor in WWII. The flag and the anthem are emotional symbols of an unrealized ideal society where equality, opportunity and equity and realized by all. If we as a country believe the symbol is more important than the practice, we're emotional fools, lacking the ability to question when the ideal is not achieved. It is inarguable that the flag and anthem are conflated with law enforcement, that somehow what law enforcement does is uphold the unrealized ideals the flag symbolized, not guarantees. I don't and never will fly the flag on my house, and neither did my grandfathers who saw the country and imperfect despite serving. I don't blindly support law enforcement or the military. Our country, believe it or not, was founded on the belief that blind loyalty to the ruling class and their support structure (law enforcement, military, policy) only continued to marginalize and exploit everyone else and was not equitable nor democratic. So why do we worship slaves owners for their rebellion against jolly old England and refusal to recognize the flag but for Kaepernick, we're hypocritical and don't understand his message? Â I'd take Kaepernick of the tire fire that is TT right now. He's better than every back up in this league and at least 30% or more of the starters. Is he a pro bowler? Nope. But he's better than the ENTIRE QB lineup right now in Bflo, Cleveland, Jax, SF, NYJ, Den, Chi, and LAR. He'd give the starters in Balt, Miami, KC, Cinci, Hou a legit challenge. Â What else would expect from a league full of old white owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Didn't we already consider Michael Vick? Is there no end to our desperate insanity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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