Wayne Arnold Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Looks like running back is a need now. So let's take a look at the large number of talented backs that will be available in the mid-to-late rounds.Ordered by overall class ranking according to CBSSports NFL Draft team. The grade in parantheses after the ranking indicate the NFL.com rating. The players' programs that the Bills visited on Pro Day is indicated.116. (5.5) Marlon Mack, RB, USF, 5-11, 215, 4.50 40123. (5.5) Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo, 5-10, 215, 4.62 - Pro Day125. (5.6) Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma, 5-11, 235, 4.65 - Pro Day129. (5.4) Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson, 6-0, 215, 4.60 - Pro Day140. (5.7) D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas, 6-0, 235, 4.46 - Pro Day144. (5.3) Jamal Williams, RB, BYU, 6-0, 210, 4.59148. (5.6) Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State, 5-9, 215, 4.49 - Pro Day156. (5.2) Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin, 5-10, 220, 4.68 - Pro Day160. (5.4) Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming, 6-1, 220, 4.54162. (5.4) James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh, 6-1, 235, 4.65174. (5.3) Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State, 5-8, 175, 4.48180. (5.4) Matthew Dayes, RB, NC State, 5-9, 205, 4.66194. (5.3) De'Angelo Henderson, RB, Coastal Carolina, 5-7, 210, 4.48196. (5.3) TJ Logan, RB, North Carolina, 5-9, 195, 4.37 - Pro Day203. (5.0) Elijah McGuire, RB, Lafayette, 5-10, 215, 4.53217. (5.4) Tarik Cohen, RB, NC A&T, 5-6, 180, 4.42225. (5.0) Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP, 5-9, 210, 4.56261. (4.9) De'Veon Smith, RB, Michigan, 5-11, 225, 4.85 - Pro Day279. (5.4) Joe Williams, RB, Utah, 5-11, 210, 4.41 A lot of these guys fit the bill for big running back that would compliment Shady. D'Onta Foreman and James Conner intrigue me the most. Edited April 19, 2017 by Wayne Arnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bias says Mack, as I've seen both his college and HS career. But MG is the much better back. Other than that, thats not a confident list. Perine, and the kid from SDSU who had a great career may turn into solid pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Maybe I'm just in the minority of people who aren't too concerned if MG leaves. I certainly wouldn't call RB a need at that point. Edited April 19, 2017 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Rocks? Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 This is the best RB draft I can remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If it the "best" RB draft, why are the Patriots signing Gillislee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 This is the best RB draft I can remember Best draft for RB yet the BEST team the last 17years Would rather spend a 5th on the Bills RB, But the Bills know better and will find a better RB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Dayes and Logan looked great. We just need more picks. I'm hoping they are there in the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Maybe I'm just in the minority's of people who aren't too concerned if MG leaves. I certainly wouldn't call RB a nerd at that point. I wouldn't call any of the RBs a nerd either - they'd beat me up and I wouldn't be fast enough to run away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bias says Mack, as I've seen both his college and HS career. But MG is the much better back. Other than that, thats not a confident list. Perine, and the kid from SDSU who had a great career may turn into solid pros. Perine the Tank baby!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleveland Rocks? Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If it the "best" RB draft, why are the Patriots signing Gillislee? Better question for them, but I'd guess it is because they don't draft very well and would probably take the wrong one. That's why they traded for Cooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Perine, Foreman, Conner I've seen and like a lot. A big fat NO to Daveon Smith from Mich....slow, slower, slowest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Joe Williams has some character issues, but the talent is undeniable. Might be a top 2 round type talent. He gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Perine, Foreman, Conner I've seen and like a lot. A big fat NO to Daveon Smith from Mich....slow, slower, slowest Joe Williams from Utah too Edited April 19, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Perine, Foreman, Conner I've seen and like a lot. A big fat NO to Daveon Smith from Mich....slow, slower, slowest ....and from Whaley's alma mater, Pitt........hmmmm.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 If it the "best" RB draft, why are the Patriots signing Gillislee? Because no matter what they'll be right because Brady. Better question for them, but I'd guess it is because they don't draft very well and would probably take the wrong one. That's why they traded for Cooks. Or they realize the draft is a tremendous crapshoot and they'd rather spend draft picks on young players who have proven that they can play in the league. But regardless, the perception is that everything they do is great because Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Because no matter what they'll be right because Brady. Or they realize the draft is a tremendous crapshoot and they'd rather spend draft picks on young players who have proven that they can play in the league. But regardless, the perception is that everything they do is great because Brady. LOL true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsmystic Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Best draft for RB yet the BEST team the last 17years Would rather spend a 5th on the Bills RB, But the Bills know better and will find a better RB? Pats are swinging for the fences this year. For 2017 MG is better than anybody they could draft in the 5th, so it's a no brainer for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Pats are swinging for the fences this year. For 2017 MG is better than anybody they could draft in the 5th, so it's a no brainer for them I think for the Patriots, 2017 is all about redeeming 2007. They're going undefeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I like Dayes & McGuire on that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I think for the Patriots, 2017 is all about redeeming 2007. They're going undefeated. At this point, anything less would be a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 At this point, anything less would be a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 At this point, anything less would be a disappointment. And, what usually happens with those kind of expectations? DISAPPOINTMENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If it the "best" RB draft, why are the Patriots signing Gillislee? Tom Brady has already defied the odds by playing at a high level this long. He wants to continue going like this for 6-7 more years, but the chances of that actually happening are very small. Regardless of his training/diet, there will be a point that Brady drops off. And I think the Patriots know this. All of their moves this off-season have been VERY unlike typical Patriot behavior. This is a team that historically has shunned big-name free agents, traded away big players before their contracts expire, and stockpiled draft picks. But this year, the Patriots have: 1. Been reluctant to trade Jimmy Garoppolo, despite the fact he is a free agent next season 2. Traded a 1st Rounder for Brandin Cooks. Next year, his 5th year option will jump his salary to over $8 million. Then he is also a free agent. 3. Signed one of the most overpriced free agents on the market in Stephon Gilmore. The Patriots are obviously mortgaging their future for another Super Bowl run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Tom Brady has already defied the odds by playing at a high level this long. He wants to continue going like this for 6-7 more years, but the chances of that actually happening are very small. Regardless of his training/diet, there will be a point that Brady drops off. And I think the Patriots know this. All of their moves this off-season have been VERY unlike typical Patriot behavior. This is a team that historically has shunned big-name free agents, traded away big players before their contracts expire, and stockpiled draft picks. But this year, the Patriots have: 1. Been reluctant to trade Jimmy Garoppolo, despite the fact he is a free agent next season 2. Traded a 1st Rounder for Brandin Cooks. Next year, his 5th year option will jump his salary to over $8 million. Then he is also a free agent. 3. Signed one of the most overpriced free agents on the market in Stephon Gilmore. The Patriots are obviously mortgaging their future for another Super Bowl run. You say obviously like any one has an Idea as to why they do what they do. They have been so far in front of the curve that nothing with them is obvious. To think otherwise would be foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Tom Brady has already defied the odds by playing at a high level this long. He wants to continue going like this for 6-7 more years, but the chances of that actually happening are very small. Regardless of his training/diet, there will be a point that Brady drops off. And I think the Patriots know this. All of their moves this off-season have been VERY unlike typical Patriot behavior. This is a team that historically has shunned big-name free agents, traded away big players before their contracts expire, and stockpiled draft picks. But this year, the Patriots have: 1. Been reluctant to trade Jimmy Garoppolo, despite the fact he is a free agent next season 2. Traded a 1st Rounder for Brandin Cooks. Next year, his 5th year option will jump his salary to over $8 million. Then he is also a free agent. 3. Signed one of the most overpriced free agents on the market in Stephon Gilmore. The Patriots are obviously mortgaging their future for another Super Bowl run. You have to admit that this is very uncharacteristic of them so far this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I hope we take one in the fifth. Let's really spin those tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Looks like running back is a need now. So let's take a look at the large number of talented backs that will be available in the mid-to-late rounds. Ordered by overall class ranking according to CBSSports NFL Draft team. The grade in parantheses after the ranking indicate the NFL.com rating. The players' programs that the Bills visited on Pro Day is indicated. 116. (5.5) Marlon Mack, RB, USF, 5-11, 215, 4.50 40 123. (5.5) Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo, 5-10, 215, 4.62 - Pro Day 125. (5.6) Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma, 5-11, 235, 4.65 - Pro Day 129. (5.4) Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson, 6-0, 215, 4.60 - Pro Day 140. (5.7) D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas, 6-0, 235, 4.46 - Pro Day 144. (5.3) Jamal Williams, RB, BYU, 6-0, 210, 4.59 148. (5.6) Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State, 5-9, 215, 4.49 - Pro Day 156. (5.2) Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin, 5-10, 220, 4.68 - Pro Day 160. (5.4) Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming, 6-1, 220, 4.54 162. (5.4) James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh, 6-1, 235, 4.65 174. (5.3) Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State, 5-8, 175, 4.48 180. (5.4) Matthew Dayes, RB, NC State, 5-9, 205, 4.66 194. (5.3) De'Angelo Henderson, RB, Coastal Carolina, 5-7, 210, 4.48 196. (5.3) TJ Logan, RB, North Carolina, 5-9, 195, 4.37 - Pro Day 203. (5.0) Elijah McGuire, RB, Lafayette, 5-10, 215, 4.53 217. (5.4) Tarik Cohen, RB, NC A&T, 5-6, 180, 4.42 225. (5.0) Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP, 5-9, 210, 4.56 261. (4.9) De'Veon Smith, RB, Michigan, 5-11, 225, 4.85 - Pro Day 279. (5.4) Joe Williams, RB, Utah, 5-11, 210, 4.41 A lot of these guys fit the bill for big running back that would compliment Shady. D'Onta Foreman and James Conner intrigue me the most. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If it the "best" RB draft, why are the Patriots signing Gillislee? I think they're going committee because of Brady. Theyd rather have a bunch of options. Gillislee, burkhead, White, Lewis.... they can hurt you in a bunch of ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Mack would be a steal in the 5th round. Dayes, Gallman or Williams would fit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 RB isn't a need now... The Bills have like 5 on the roster. Everyone forgets we have Tolbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Maybe I'm just in the minority's of people who aren't too concerned if MG leaves. I certainly wouldn't call RB a nerd at that point. Especialy if he is bigger than you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If it the "best" RB draft, why are the Patriots signing Gillislee? Because their guy is a pain in the butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 UDFA a running back. There are quality guys that can be had after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Would love to have Foreman. That would be my guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If it the "best" RB draft, why are the Patriots signing Gillislee? Patriots are signing him as much to weaken the Bills as to fill a need in NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If it the "best" RB draft, why are the Patriots signing Gillislee? If you had your choice which would you pick, someone that you know can get the job done in the NFL or someone you think might be able to? It's not like that fifth round pick is going to bring their dynasty down, but it gives Tom Brady someone else to work with while he is still playing. Would love to have Foreman. That would be my guy. That's who I like. I would think Mike Tolbert could teach him a thing or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 3.3 4.1 2.1 3.6 3.4 What are those numbers? Mike Tolberts YPC. One touchdown in the last three seasons. His signing rivals the Ducasse signing for stoooopidness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Looks like running back is a need now. So let's take a look at the large number of talented backs that will be available in the mid-to-late rounds. Ordered by overall class ranking according to CBSSports NFL Draft team. The grade in parantheses after the ranking indicate the NFL.com rating. The players' programs that the Bills visited on Pro Day is indicated. 116. (5.5) Marlon Mack, RB, USF, 5-11, 215, 4.50 40 123. (5.5) Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo, 5-10, 215, 4.62 - Pro Day 125. (5.6) Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma, 5-11, 235, 4.65 - Pro Day 129. (5.4) Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson, 6-0, 215, 4.60 - Pro Day 140. (5.7) D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas, 6-0, 235, 4.46 - Pro Day 144. (5.3) Jamal Williams, RB, BYU, 6-0, 210, 4.59 148. (5.6) Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State, 5-9, 215, 4.49 - Pro Day 156. (5.2) Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin, 5-10, 220, 4.68 - Pro Day 160. (5.4) Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming, 6-1, 220, 4.54 162. (5.4) James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh, 6-1, 235, 4.65 174. (5.3) Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State, 5-8, 175, 4.48 180. (5.4) Matthew Dayes, RB, NC State, 5-9, 205, 4.66 194. (5.3) De'Angelo Henderson, RB, Coastal Carolina, 5-7, 210, 4.48 196. (5.3) TJ Logan, RB, North Carolina, 5-9, 195, 4.37 - Pro Day 203. (5.0) Elijah McGuire, RB, Lafayette, 5-10, 215, 4.53 217. (5.4) Tarik Cohen, RB, NC A&T, 5-6, 180, 4.42 225. (5.0) Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP, 5-9, 210, 4.56 261. (4.9) De'Veon Smith, RB, Michigan, 5-11, 225, 4.85 - Pro Day 279. (5.4) Joe Williams, RB, Utah, 5-11, 210, 4.41 A lot of these guys fit the bill for big running back that would compliment Shady. D'Onta Foreman and James Conner intrigue me the most. So, then it's either Jamal Williams of BYU or Joe Williams of Utah. Edited April 19, 2017 by LittleJoeCartwright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Patriots are signing him as much to weaken the Bills as to fill a need in NE. Well that would be dumb since it wouldn't weaken this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If Shady goes down, we would be left with Williams (who has shown nothing to convince me he will even make the team) and Tolbert. Maybe a rookie if we draft one late. We would be in the same position as last year with the WR's. Y ou need depth in the NFL. MG is great depth. We lose him, it will hurt the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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