TheElectricCompany Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Since many posts of the posts in the "Tom Brady, best ever" thread seem to get into the comparison of players across eras, figured I'd post this one up. This is very high quality video. It's pretty cool to see the game even before Sid Luckman & Otto Graham started making themselves known. The immediate takeaway is how unique the option game was back then. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRBills Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Thanks for sharing, was very cool to see. Boy has the game changed! Alot of read option. Seems most plays were either a design keeper or just 1 read and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 This is very cool. Thanks for sharing. As I think I suggested on the Brady thread, most QBs from long-ago wouldn't be successful in today's game. Then again, many of today's QBs would not have been successful back then. So how do you make a fair comparison? I don't think Brady would have been successful running the offenses we see in the video. But I think TT would have have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 A player with great talent will have the game form around him. He needs a coach wiling to change his "system" to do this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Very cool - the quality of that is amazing I always wondered what the game looked like prior to the modern rule changes in the early 1900s when people were actually getting killed playing the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Very cool - the quality of that is amazing I always wondered what the game looked like prior to the modern rule changes in the early 1900s when people were actually getting killed playing the game The flying wedge of Princeton, a mankiller, must have been something to see. Do we have footage of Jim Thorpe leg-whip tackling a runner after chasing him down for 30 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Brady would have absolutely demolished these defenses. They would have absolutely no idea what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I enjoy the memories of the old geezers telling me about those days, how the 0-0 games were the best they ever saw, how Mean Joe Greene would have been a pansy back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 Can you imagine the Nigerian Nightmare or Brandon Jacobs running the option back then? You'd need a mortuary next to the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 that video needed hip hop in the background like all the football highlight videos on youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Professional baseball historically outpaced pro football in terms of popularity. Unfortunately this means that many of us know very little about the early years of football. It's always great to see footage of those early years. It's striking how the game has changed so much over the years. It's basically a different sport now. I'm still sure some would argue that the Bills offense has a lot in common in with an offense of 1939 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Brady would have absolutely demolished these defenses. They would have absolutely no idea what to do. Any modern offense would demolish those defenses, just like any modern defense would shut down those offenses. That's like saying an F-16 would totally destroy the Red Baron in WWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I didn't see a single QB death or "decapitation". I was sure there going to be several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I didn't see a single QB death or "decapitation". I was sure there going to be several. 4 guys being run over as they lay there unconscious from getting clubbed to the head on every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Brady would have absolutely demolished these defenses. They would have absolutely no idea what to do. Sure he would. If he was playing with the 2016 Pats. Modern NFL offenses would demolish 1930s defenses that were designed to stop something different. But the rules and schemes were different back then. Could Brady have operated a 1930s style option offense better than the QBs back then? I don't think so. He's a near perfect QB for today's game but I don't think his skill set fits the 1930s game. Edited March 29, 2017 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 He's a near perfect QB for today's game but I don't think his skill set fits the 1930s game. I looked at the all NFL offense of the 1940s. Interesting that most HBs and QBs were 170-180 lbs, 5'10" - 6'0. Brady at 6'4", 225 lbs would have been fine as a thrower and runner. He's not very athletic for our era, but back then, we would been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Watching that makes what Don Hutson did all the more remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Watching that makes what Don Hutson did all the more remarkable. The respect I have for the media and people in my life who still talk about him make me believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Sure he would. If he was playing with the 2016 Pats. Modern NFL offenses would demolish 1930s defenses that were designed to stop something different. But the rules and schemes were different back then. Could Brady have operated a 1930s style option offense better than the QBs back then? I don't think so. He's a near perfect QB for today's game but I don't think his skill set fits the 1930s game. I think Brady would feel right at home surrounded by 10 other white guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) I looked at the all NFL offense of the 1940s. Interesting that most HBs and QBs were 170-180 lbs, 5'10" - 6'0. Brady at 6'4", 225 lbs would have been fine as a thrower and runner. He's not very athletic for our era, but back then, we would been fine. Yeah. Human beings in the general population are bigger too, and football players especially so. In the 30's the passing game was more of a novelty. Real modern style QB play was nonexistent in that era. If you transported JP Losman to the 30's he would have been an all pro in that era. Tom Brady playing back in the 30's would be like the Back to the Future scene where McFly plays Van Halen. People would be flabbergasted. Edited March 29, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 We should sign that fullback on the blue team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Sure he would. If he was playing with the 2016 Pats. Modern NFL offenses would demolish 1930s defenses that were designed to stop something different. But the rules and schemes were different back then. Could Brady have operated a 1930s style option offense better than the QBs back then? I don't think so. He's a near perfect QB for today's game but I don't think his skill set fits the 1930s game. His skill set didn't fit the 1930s simply because nobody had tried playing that way yet. It's not like the human race is evolving in 70 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills4everNY Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 They didn't have cheerleaders in hot pants back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I do want to point out the parts in this clip where guys are losing consciousness and getting dragged back up to their feet. Makes me cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Nice! Thanks for shearing. Looks a lot like backyard football, lots of runs, option and power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Tebow missed his era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 just by reading the thread title, the first words into my head were "ground and pound" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 His skill set didn't fit the 1930s simply because nobody had tried playing that way yet. It's not like the human race is evolving in 70 years. Look at the size of the average person and athlete in particular in 1930 vs now. The human race may not have "evolved" in that amount of time, but human size and health have changed quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Brady wouldn't play without a facemask. He would be too frightened to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Great stuff for this old codger! Thanks for sharing. Not only no facemasks, the PK didn't even wear a helmet! Note to Elite Poster; Tom Brady's Mom wouldn't have let him play, if he were alive back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Very cool to see that, thanks to the OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Where are all the black guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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