Beef Jerky Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) I'd prefer to have someone with some upside at backup. We've already seen the best of what Kaepernick can be, he has lost like half his muscle since that time and is just not the QB anymore Exactly for a team that needs a starting QB you don't go out and get bad QBs that you already know won't win you anything. Edited March 20, 2017 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Even if he weren't a piece of garbage I still wouldn't want him. He's not the future and if Taylor goes down I'd rather see what Jones can do. If he's that much of a downgrade from Kaepernick it's best that we learn that as it will tell us a lot about our QB situation as well as the guy making the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Even if he weren't a piece of garbage I still wouldn't want him. He's not the future and if Taylor goes down I'd rather see what Jones can do. If he's that much of a downgrade from Kaepernick it's best that we learn that as it will tell us a lot about our QB situation as well as the guy making the picks. No, you see, because Jones doesn't wipe his azz with the American flag, he's not as good an option as the guy who does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Love his politics and his willingness to actually take a stand.. love the fact he takes a knee why this country circles the drain. Takes balls to do that and deal with the ridicule.So much easier to stand up and just go along as not to offend anyone... Got to love the faux patriotism most pretend to display he sucks as a QB though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 so the OP never came back to this train wreck of a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I don't think Kaepernick is not getting a job because of racism. Who knows but more likely is Kapernick isn't that good. He'll get a backup offer at some point is my guess. I don't think so either. He isn't that good on the field, and his baggage may be more distracting than it's worth . He will likely get a shot to compete somewhere after the draft. More media nonsense being stirred up about nothing right now. Love his politics and his willingness to actually take a stand.. love the fact he takes a knee why this country circles the drain. Takes balls to do that and deal with the ridicule.So much easier to stand up and just go along as not to offend anyone... Got to love the faux patriotism most pretend to display he sucks as a QB though So it's great to offend people and disrespect the flag and country because everything about America isn't perfect. Yeah, that takes a lot of balls. He sucks as a QB and an individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I don't think so either. He isn't that good on the field, and his baggage may be more distracting than it's worth . He will likely get a shot to compete somewhere after the draft. More media nonsense being stirred up about nothing right now. So it's great to offend people and disrespect the flag and country because everything about America isn't perfect. Yeah, that takes a lot of balls. He sucks as a QB and an individual. I found Rex's introduction of Trump at a public rally to be far more offensive to my own sensibilities than anything Kaepernick ever did, but I remained a ridiculously hardcore Bills fan despite it. I suspect his Bills fan critics would do the same if CK became a backup QB here -- which, for the record, will never happen (just to be clear). It's not like he essentially molested a woman in public with a golf club, like our Pro Bowl guard ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re enlightener Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 do any of you want to see his head which looks like a giant ball-fro on our sideline ever again??? I sure dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Love his politics and his willingness to actually take a stand.. love the fact he takes a knee why this country circles the drain. Takes balls to do that and deal with the ridicule.So much easier to stand up and just go along as not to offend anyone... Got to love the faux patriotism most pretend to display he sucks as a QB though he is going to be standing this year. You know, because his opinion doesn't make him any money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 No, you see, because Jones doesn't wipe his azz with the American flag, he's not as good an option as the guy who does I think we've uncovered the issue here. And Kaepernick never actually did what you're saying. Those facts just keep getting in the way. They're disappointing, aren't they? I don't think so either. He isn't that good on the field, and his baggage may be more distracting than it's worth . He will likely get a shot to compete somewhere after the draft. More media nonsense being stirred up about nothing right now. So it's great to offend people and disrespect the flag and country because everything about America isn't perfect. Yeah, that takes a lot of balls. He sucks as a QB and an individual. I'm not offended in the least. Maybe people need thicker skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I think we've uncovered the issue here. And Kaepernick never actually did what you're saying. Those facts just keep getting in the way. They're disappointing, aren't they?kaepernick did a whole of stupid. Dismissing that as stupid is an easy out. The pig socks all the way to the transparency of sending food to Syria as a PR gimmick... the guy has been classless and stupid. Who hasn't don't dumb **** in their younger years? He only continued to make it worse and not educate himself on the subject matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 His QB play has deteriorated, obviously. I don't want him. I also cannot respect the guy for the douchey stand he took regarding the flag. Stay outta my favorite sports league please.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I found Rex's introduction of Trump at a public rally to be far more offensive to my own sensibilities than anything Kaepernick ever did, but I remained a ridiculously hardcore Bills fan despite it. I suspect his Bills fan critics would do the same if CK became a backup QB here -- which, for the record, will never happen (just to be clear). It's not like he essentially molested a woman in public with a golf club, like our Pro Bowl guard ... So disrespecting the flag and country and everything it stands for is less offensive to you than introducing a person at a gathering or some isolated incident with a single individual ? How on earth did you manage to stay a Bills fan in the face of such outrageous actions? I think we've uncovered the issue here. And Kaepernick never actually did what you're saying. Those facts just keep getting in the way. They're disappointing, aren't they? I'm not offended in the least. Maybe people need thicker skin Or just need to look the other way, because you know it's not PC to call anyone out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 So disrespecting the flag and country and everything it stands for is less offensive to you than introducing a person at a gathering or some isolated incident with a single individual ? How on earth did you manage to stay a Bills fan in the face of such outrageous actions? What's more disrespectful to the flag? Not standing for the anthem, or telling someone they should stand if they don't agree? I think the latter is highly disrespectful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I think we've uncovered the issue here. And Kaepernick never actually did what you're saying. Those facts just keep getting in the way. They're disappointing, aren't they? metaphors not big in your native language? would explain a lot What's more disrespectful to the flag? Not standing for the anthem, or telling someone they should stand if they don't agree? I think the latter is highly disrespectful Oh, so as long as dissent is anti-american, it's actually pro-flag. I think im going to need a score card to keep track of all this sadbrained excuse making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 metaphors not big in your native language? would explain a lot Oh, so as long as dissent is anti-american, it's actually pro-flag. I think im going to need a score card to keep track of all this sadbrained excuse making I think you have a reading comprehension issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 So disrespecting the flag and country and everything it stands for is less offensive to you than introducing a person at a gathering or some isolated incident with a single individual ? How on earth did you manage to stay a Bills fan in the face of such outrageous actions? Or just need to look the other way, because you know it's not PC to call anyone out. I feel *very* strongly about Ryan's act, but we're never going to agree on politics, and -- frankly -- I've said too much already. On to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 my god i am embarrassed for most of ya'll. such vitriol for a backup qb that means nothing that hasn't been discussed 1,000 times and got ugly before. whats going to change now except new members are going to be sucked in to it? kaepernick threads are worse than him starting at qb. jesus, just sad that we can't learn this for the 1,000 thread. Boyst, you've clearly forgotten where you are. This is TBD, off-season home to the Groundhog Day Threads Machine. If it ain't been re-threaded a 1000 times, it ain't resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 What's more disrespectful to the flag? Not standing for the anthem, or telling someone they should stand if they don't agree? I think the latter is highly disrespectful If they don't agree with what? The concept of honoring America ( or whatever country they are in) by standing for the anthem? Then why are they here would be my first question. Go to another country and attend an event where that nations anthem is played. Remain seated when all others are standing. How would that not be disrespectful? If you don't wish to honor your country because everything isn't perfect all the time then you may have a hard time being happy anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 do any of you want to see his head which looks like a giant ball-fro on our sideline ever again??? I sure dont.Constantly pointing out kaps hair (which you basically liken to the alien dread locks in the movie predator) is highly distasteful and makes it seem like he's not a human to be taken seriously because his hair isn't straight or styled in a fashion familiar to you. For the record I'm mixed and have a curly Afro, unfortunately my hair is too thick to gel up and style shame on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Constantly pointing out kaps hair (which you basically liken to the alien dread locks in the movie predator) is highly distasteful and makes it seem like he's not a human to be taken seriously because his hair isn't straight or styled in a fashion familiar to you. For the record I'm mixed and have a curly Afro, unfortunately my hair is too thick to gel up and style shame on me. "Didn't mean to deceive you, believe me, But sometimes the hardest part is conceiving. The good intentions that you had Now only came to this And although we saw the mark The arrow missed" - Wide Eyed 182 Unfortunately this topic unavoidably ends up racially or politically charged. Plain and simple, do you trust Cardale as our back up? If not then it would be wise to find a QB that doesn't require our offensive staff to change the game plan. In a vacuum Kaepernick checks those boxes. I'd personally rather not sign the guy because he is now a detriment to a teams unity. Fair or not, you perform actions like he did in front of thousands in attendance, millions watching on TV.. you open yourself up to criticism inside the locker room and across media platforms. We don't need distractions for a back up QB and that's likely what the majority of teams are thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I didn't stand for the anthem that day vs the 49ers. No one said anything presumably because people are cowards and would rather pile on someone not in front of them with a USA chant. Closet bigotry aside I would rather use kap as a backup than Jones. Idk I can't see Caesar winning a game went duty calls. *cardale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I hope we sign him just because of people like this. I second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I second that. careful, dont cut yourself on all those edges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 The only value he provides is to show your kids nlwho to not emulate when they grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 If they don't agree with what? The concept of honoring America ( or whatever country they are in) by standing for the anthem? Then why are they here would be my first question. Go to another country and attend an event where that nations anthem is played. Remain seated when all others are standing. How would that not be disrespectful? If you don't wish to honor your country because everything isn't perfect all the time then you may have a hard time being happy anywhere. And they don't have to be happy. Some people feel the need to use that to get a message out. It may bother some and they have a right to speak out on that too. But the right to protest is part of our freedom. As a previous post said, on to football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 The only value he provides is to show your kids nlwho to not emulate when they grow up. I really hope parents find more meaningful role models for their children to idolize. There are a lot of NFL players who are not worth the breath we use to talk about them. I'd imagine most of Steeler nation has young fans rocking Rapistbergers jersey. Just a comparison for perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) From the sound of it half this board would stroke out if their daughter married black man. Edited March 20, 2017 by NeckMeat182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schpiely Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 It's bad value because he's a bad QB. It shouldn't take fourteen pages to figure that one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) From the sound of it half this board would stroke out if their daughter married black man. it sounds like some people clutch their pearls and have to find a fainting couch when anyone expresses an opinion to the right of rachael maddow. I don't care at all that Kaep is black or half black or whatever category he puts himself into for maximum victim status. The antics around the anthem were one thing, then when his SJW GF egged him on further, he wore those damned pig socks. He really shouldn't be surprised when his disrespect is met in kind by the people who buy tickets to the games. Leave it to limousine liberals to add race to the equation though, nice work. If the bills sign him, maybe you can buy the thousands of unsold seats that will result. Edited March 20, 2017 by dorquemada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 From the sound of it half this board would stroke out if there daughter married black man. I wouldn't overgeneralize it. We as Americans are fortunate to have such a diverse population. However, depending on where you live in the US, your point of view can be very different. I am from NY, I am from upstate NY, I am from Ithaca. Now changing that to even surrounding areas like Cortland or Watkins Glen can change the scope from which we were educated and raised. Biases exist everywhere. So I've really tried to sift through the petty BS comments in threads like this. Some of my favorite posters are also people who think differently. We have to remind ourselves constantly that with so many alternative opinions, there is no clear cut right or wrong. Doing that helps soothe aggravation brought on by our OPINIONS and the OPINIONS of others. Yet we have 1 thing in common here... Go Bills! it sounds like some people clutch their pearls and have to find a fainting couch when anyone expresses an opinion to the right of rachael maddow. I don't care at all that Kaep is black or half black or whatever category he puts himself into for maximum victim status. The antics around the anthem were one thing, then when his SJW GF egged him on further, he wore those damned pig socks. He really shouldn't be surprised when his disrespect is met in kind by the people who buy tickets to the games. Leave it to limousine liberals to add race to the equation though, nice work. If the bills sign him, maybe you can buy the thousands of unsold seats that will result. If 17 years out of the playoffs doesn't empty a stadium.. I'd have to believe Kaps addition wouldn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I would rather have a late rd rookie over Kaepernick or Jones. I would be fine with Webb or Kelly as the backup. This team is not going to contend for a playoff spot this coming year, we don't have the talent in the secondary or at WR to contend. Taylor also cannot carry this team offensively, this should've been a two year rebuild where we take a shot at a QB in 2018 then push for the playoffs in 2019 and 2020. This really feels like 8-8 forever, our HC has hitched his trailer to Taylor and will probably be gone in two years because of it. The backup QB for this team is inconsequential, we have solid starters and zero depth. The only position we are set at is RB, the least valuable position in the NFL. Every other team in the NFL is taking advantage of the rules that make passing the football virtually unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) True. How many of the people saying he sucks know he threw 16 TDs and 4 ints and ran for 400+ yards in 11 games last year? He had 2 bad coaches the last 2 years too. Anyone remember Tomsula? Edited March 20, 2017 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Ej>Kaep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 it sounds like some people clutch their pearls and have to find a fainting couch when anyone expresses an opinion to the right of rachael maddow. I don't care at all that Kaep is black or half black or whatever category he puts himself into for maximum victim status. The antics around the anthem were one thing, then when his SJW GF egged him on further, he wore those damned pig socks. He really shouldn't be surprised when his disrespect is met in kind by the people who buy tickets to the games. Leave it to limousine liberals to add race to the equation though, nice work. If the bills sign him, maybe you can buy the thousands of unsold seats that will result. I get it your not racist just a conservative who has no compassion for anyone but your own ilk. But this isn't a comment section on brietbart. Kap would be a good backup if on a cheap deal. But we can't because "thousands" of people who share your thoughts wouldn't show up to a single game because an Afro yielding liberal is holding the clipboard? I think fans are politicizing the game as much as he is by giving it so much attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 True. How many of the people saying he sucks know he threw 16 TDs and 4 ints and ran for 400+ yards in 11 games last year? He had 2 bad coaches the last 2 years too. Anyone remember Tomsula? A few people above have been discussing this, actually. The numbers look good on paper, but there's a fair amount out there now about how his numbers were garbage-time inflated. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/12/silence-surrounds-colin-kaepernicks-free-agency/ 'On-field problems are probably the bigger problem. Although Kaepernick’s raw passing stats (16 touchdowns and four interceptions last season) don’t look bad, the reality is he played poorly and compiled his numbers mostly while trailing in the second half for the 2-14 49ers. More advanced statistics used by Football Outsiders and ESPN both rank Kaepernick 30th among NFL passers last season.' As I said above, you want a guy who gives you a reasonable change to get you to 2-2 over a four game stretch. Matt Moore is the platonic ideal, and I see CK as 1-3 guy. He's hardly the worst backup option, though--it's pretty clear from current NFL rosters that solid backups aren't that easy to come by. Ej>Kaep This simply isn't true. I'd take CK 30 times out of 30 over Manuel. Manuel is terrible, although he may actually be better than Connor Cook (who looks terrible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) True. How many of the people saying he sucks know he threw 16 TDs and 4 ints and ran for 400+ yards in 11 games last year? He had 2 bad coaches the last 2 years too. Anyone remember Tomsula? context... Dude was behind and throwing in all of the games and he still only averaged 186 yards a game? That's terrible. That means when the game was still close, the offense was doing nothing. Easy to look good when dudes are giving 10 yard cushions to not get beat over the top playing with big leads... Edited March 20, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 context... Dude was behind and throwing in all of the games and he still only averaged 186 yards a game? That's terrible. That means when the game was still close, the offense was doing nothing. Easy to look good when dudes are giving 10 yard cushions to not get beat over the top playing with big leads... Point taken, but if he's a two or three on the depth chart, this is acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) I have personally seen racial biased happen too many times to disregard it as not factual. ty for your cordial reply. we need to have these important discussions and i personally think we should have them when they pop up like this its definitely real and it definitely happens. lets continue to look for it and go get it when we find it i just strongly believe that its not nearly as widespread as the baiters make it. we have serious problems with even the basic definition of racism and then we take that broken definition and apply it to far too many situations this effectively CREATES RACISM OUT OF THIN AIR. it also devalues real racism and makes it harder to go get that properly prejudice of course go both ways and ive seen it all. but we generally only focus on the whiteness when in fact blackness can be very good at pinning things unfairly on whatever they consider part of whiteness, which includes the police just bc we find a precinct here and there that we have to address to get them away from racist patterns doesnt mean we get to broadbrush it across all or most police that broadbrushing is exactly the same technique racists use. ive termed that form of racism 'neo-racism' that contingent within our blackness and the enabling whiteness want to tell us we have a systemic problem when in reality it exists only in pockets. those are two totally different levels of a problem, and the baiters intentionally inflate its occurrence, probably by a factor of at least ten so again, we definitely have real racism problems but they are not nearly as big as the baiters want to make us believe. that doesnt help us as much as it hurts us You see its not just shootings, its an entire racial prejudice in our entire judicial system. i have been keeping an eye on the judicial system for many decades and i saw studies from just a couple years ago that indicated a widespread effort to eliminate bias in arrests and convictions has eliminated most of that specific bias unfortunately i dont have that link right now but we can probably find it. and this observation has been made in other books that i have read again, wherever we find it we should continue to go after it, but to use it as a justification for the broadbushing of whiteness and the police appears unjustified the difficult fact to accept is that as a percentage of population we have a far greater problem of racism within our blackness. but since whiteness is so much bigger in terms of population, its easier to see white racism a lot of our current problems really trace back to our blackness and the erroneous perspectives that are so common there. weve allowed a somewhat warped perspective of black oppression to dominate our thoughts when really we have a different set of problems right now Edited March 20, 2017 by Meathead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I found Rex's introduction of Trump at a public rally to be far more offensive to my own sensibilities than anything Kaepernick ever did, but I remained a ridiculously hardcore Bills fan despite it. I suspect his Bills fan critics would do the same if CK became a backup QB here -- which, for the record, will never happen (just to be clear). It's not like he essentially molested a woman in public with a golf club, like our Pro Bowl guard ... That's a bad comparison. No one would give a soft **** if Kaepernick stumped for Obama, Hillary, or whoever. This isn't about politics per se. It's about a simple minded scumbag who gave the proverbial finger to the country at large and most of us gave it back to him. I have friends that vote Democrat that have no more use for that piece of **** than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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