BillsFan4 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I found this to be a pretty interesting read. Figured I'd share, but i wasn't sure where to post it. John Stempin @johnstempin WaPo: NFL abuse of painkillers described in court filings. Bills' Carpenter, Marzo name checked. (link: http://wapo.st/2mrjbVL?tid=ss_tw)wapo.st/2mrjbVL?tid=ss @john_wawrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) From the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/nfl-abuse-of-painkillers-and-other-drugs-described-in-court-filings/2017/03/09/be1a71d8-035a-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_nfldrugs815p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.524bbc4ab61c I can't help but think that the league doesn't have a leg to stand on with regard to drug suspensions for players now. Of course, the league is denying everything. The Bills are discussed, and there is a sworn statement from Bud Carpenter that is quoted. Edited March 10, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just saw the same article. I don't even know how to post links, but this can be a good look for the "integrity of the game". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Can't say I'm surprised. When that much money is involved, laws tend to become very "flexible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Least shocking thing I read all day... we've read plenty of reports alluding to this and of course direct allegations too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Least shocking thing I read all day... we've read plenty of reports alluding to this and of course direct allegations too Not surprised at all either ... But gory details are coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Yes it is everywhere and no matter how much you would expect an industry to be protected and regulated, any time there is pain there is an opportunity to overprescribe and most docs really don't care less. Seriously. As a member of the recovery community, my brothers and sisters and I know. Watch the documentary prescription thugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Wow they are just screwed in that lawsuit...wonder how much they are going to settle for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) So when we harass players for not playing recently and blame it on the short practice schedule agreed to in the CBA - Are players just not playing or being more frequently designated injured because the NFL clamped down on this because of the pending lawsuit? Edited March 10, 2017 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 From the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/nfl-abuse-of-painkillers-and-other-drugs-described-in-court-filings/2017/03/09/be1a71d8-035a-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_nfldrugs815p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.524bbc4ab61c I can't help but think that the league doesn't have a leg to stand on with regard to drug suspensions for players now. Of course, the league is denying everything. The Bills are discussed, and there is a sworn statement from Bud Carpenter that is quoted. Pez dispensers full of Demerol are the NFL benefits plan not abuse of drug laws, silly goose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Classic case of 'double standards' coming up here. 'Regular' folks who did something similar, would be ripped to high heaven and back again, but it's ok because it's the NFL. Rules and regulations about drugs are made for a reason, particularly in respect of prescription medication. Letting someone who is uncredited dispense stuff, deliberately, or simply through turning the traditional 'blind eye', is a recipe for disaster, potentially in both the short and long term. By the sounds of it, there has been systematic abuse of this for years. If it were me, I'd just get the DEA to pull the licenses that enable NFL teams to dispense drugs, as they obviously cannot be trusted to do so correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Harshly against weed but hand out these addictive, destructive, narcotics. That's the NFL for ya haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Throw some money at the lawmakers and they go away. Funny how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Wow! Who knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Is everyone in the world a moron? "In August 2009, for example, Paul Sparling, the Cincinnati Bengals’ head trainer, wrote in an email: “Can you have your office fax a copy of your DEA certificate to me? I need it for my records when the NFL ‘pill counters’ come to see if we are doing things right. Don’t worry, I’m pretty good at keeping them off the trail!”" Who puts this in an email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Harshly against weed but hand out these addictive, destructive, narcotics. That's the NFL for ya haha. This might be a straw that really begins to change that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Is everyone in the world a moron? "In August 2009, for example, Paul Sparling, the Cincinnati Bengals’ head trainer, wrote in an email: “Can you have your office fax a copy of your DEA certificate to me? I need it for my records when the NFL ‘pill counters’ come to see if we are doing things right. Don’t worry, I’m pretty good at keeping them off the trail!”" Who puts this in an email? this is nuts, they should of just sent the email directly to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 It's alright if big brother tells them to take pain killers to keep the NFL looking great on the field but if Henderson goes out & takes some pot because his Dr. says it will help his symptoms for Crohns then that's not okay ! I wonder what Brett Favre's take on the NFL pushing pain killers is ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 It's alright if big brother tells them to take pain killers to keep the NFL looking great on the field but if Henderson goes out & takes some pot because his Dr. says it will help his symptoms for Crohns then that's not okay ! I wonder what Brett Favre's take on the NFL pushing pain killers is ?? Pretty sure its "Chill out. Dave's not here mannnnnnnn" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Harshly against weed but hand out these addictive, destructive, narcotics. That's the NFL for ya haha. I had that same thought. It's Ridiculous. One is non addictive and more/less safe, but completely against the rules. The other is one of the most addictive substances on the planet and is passed out like candy. Makes zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Wow, what a shocker. Cats and dogs don't get along is the next big media blockbuster, or water is wet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Harshly against weed but hand out these addictive, destructive, narcotics. That's the NFL for ya haha. Anything to keep their "entertainers" on the field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Least shocking thing I read all day... we've read plenty of reports alluding to this and of course direct allegations too Yeah. this is really old news. Also...that's 2.6 pills per player per week on average. I have patients who are serviced through legit "pain treatment centers" and "palliative care services" who take far more than that daily and chronically. That's their treatment for chronic pain. Also, we give Toradol to just about every patient after surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Harshly against weed but hand out these addictive, destructive, narcotics. That's the NFL for ya haha. Once weed becomes a legal big business (and it's on the fast track to happen), like big pharma things will start changing quickly. Only a matter of time until major sports change their stance on MJ. Harshly against weed but hand out these addictive, destructive, narcotics. That's the NFL for ya haha. Once weed becomes a legal big business (and it's on the fast track to happen), like big pharma, things will start changing quickly. Only a matter of time until major sports change their stance on MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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