Kemp Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 7:30 AM, Koko78 said: He never claimed Clinton wasn't impeached. He said Clinton was never convicted of anything, but he certainly was impeached. Since nothing has happened to Trump, yet, what's his point? If Trump were to be convicted of something he might have a point. Then again, if Trump is convicted of something in the future, it will all be moot. By the way, the notion that a President cannot be prosecuted for a crime is pure nonsense. It's certainly not in the Constitution. On 9/19/2018 at 9:05 AM, 4merper4mer said: Dude. You think The Big Lebowski tried to break into the voting machines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Kemp said: He said Clinton was never convicted of anything, but he certainly was impeached. Since nothing has happened to Trump, yet, what's his point? If Trump were to be convicted of something he might have a point. Then again, if Trump is convicted of something in the future, it will all be moot. By the way, the notion that a President cannot be prosecuted for a crime is pure nonsense. It's certainly not in the Constitution. You think The Big Lebowski tried to break into the voting machines? But it is Justice Department policy, just saying. Who knows what they will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And 37 people are talking about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Kemp said: He said Clinton was never convicted of anything, but he certainly was impeached. I believe you were the one who said he was convicted. 1 hour ago, Kemp said: By the way, the notion that a President cannot be prosecuted for a crime is pure nonsense. It's certainly not in the Constitution. I suggest you read the Federalist Papers #69. The founding fathers, specifically Alexander Hamilton, disagree with you. It was their pretty clear intent that impeachment was the remedy for a sitting president, with criminal liability only attaching once he is removed from office. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed69.asp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Hey any evidence of Russian collusion yet? Just checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Hey any evidence of Russian collusion yet? Just checking. From Trump? Nyet. From others? Da. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Hey any evidence of Russian collusion yet? Just checking. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-bradley/from-russia-with-love-the_b_627368.html Particularly, "Skolkovo." If you want to know where the Russian capacity for "hacking elections" came from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: Hey any evidence of Russian collusion yet? Just checking. This probe is the biggest fraud in American history. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 1:42 PM, Boyst62 said: What was his name? Get your own guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 7 hours ago, DC Tom said: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-bradley/from-russia-with-love-the_b_627368.html Particularly, "Skolkovo." If you want to know where the Russian capacity for "hacking elections" came from. Sure, but that was from 2010 when Russia was our friend. Trump’s election ruined that beautiful relationship. Now they’re our hated enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Kemp said: He said Clinton was never convicted of anything, but he certainly was impeached. Since nothing has happened to Trump, yet, what's his point? If Trump were to be convicted of something he might have a point. Then again, if Trump is convicted of something in the future, it will all be moot. By the way, the notion that a President cannot be prosecuted for a crime is pure nonsense. It's certainly not in the Constitution. You think The Big Lebowski tried to break into the voting machines? You can't convict a sitting president of a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 18 hours ago, Kemp said: By the way, the notion that a President cannot be prosecuted for a crime is pure nonsense. It's certainly not in the Constitution. He can't be. He has to be impeached, convicted, and removed from office before a criminal charge can be brought against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 “I’ve read it. Some of it’s embarrassing for the Department of Justice — some of it’s embarrassing for the FBI. Embarrassment is not a reason to classify something,” said Gowdy. “A lot of it should be embarrassing to John Brennan, and maybe therein lies why he is so adamant that this information not be released.” (Should be.... but Brennan isn't a principled or honorable man, he views what he did as his duty - to to the country, but to his wallet) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Still in Putin's back pocket, or maybe not. Funny how the narrative suddenly shifts from a Putin stooge to threatening a nukular war. Nope, there's absolutely nothing in between. Quote The U.S. ambassador to NATO set off alarm bells Tuesday when she suggested that the United States might “take out” Russian missiles that U.S. officials say violate a landmark arms control treaty. Although Ambassador Kay Bailey Hutchison’s comments were somewhat ambiguous, arms control experts said they could be interpreted to mean a preemptive strike against Russian missiles. Such a move could lead to nuclear war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 43 minutes ago, GG said: Still in Putin's back pocket, or maybe not. Funny how the narrative suddenly shifts from a Putin stooge to threatening a nukular war. Nope, there's absolutely nothing in between. Well it's obvious if Trump did order the military to take out the Russian missiles, it would be at the expense of the Democrats new best friend and ally - Russia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 SO YOU’RE SAYING IT WAS ALL A PUT-UP JOB? Russia collusion bombshell: DNC lawyers met with FBI on dossier before surveillance warrant. “This is a bombshell that unequivocally shows the real collusion was between the FBI and Donald Trump’s opposition — the DNC, Hillary and a Trump-hating British intel officer — to hijack the election, rather than some conspiracy between Putin and Trump.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, B-Man said: SO YOU’RE SAYING IT WAS ALL A PUT-UP JOB? Russia collusion bombshell: DNC lawyers met with FBI on dossier before surveillance warrant. “This is a bombshell that unequivocally shows the real collusion was between the FBI and Donald Trump’s opposition — the DNC, Hillary and a Trump-hating British intel officer — to hijack the election, rather than some conspiracy between Putin and Trump.” There's more to come on this. I assume the FBI presser tomorrow morning will be about the arrest of the ricin suspect ... but it could be much more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Democrats Are Failing On Russia For The Same Reason They Failed On Kavanaugh . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 The Russia Hoax As Contingency Plan American Thinker, by Mark Wauck Original Article Remember, back in August, 2016, when Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were obsessively texting one another? One exchange went something like, well, exactly like this: "[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!" Page texted Strzok. "No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it," Strzok responded. Fast forward a couple of years and for reasons best known to themselves Ben Rhodes and Jen Psaki have decided to reveal to New York Magazine that the Russia Hoax was a key part of the Obama Administration´s -- and presumably the Clinton campaign´s -- contingency plan to, well, steal an election . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Wait for the press to spin this one: Of course, for years Russia has been violating this treaty, with the full knowledge of previous administrations. Withdrawing from it is the prudent move to protect American interests and NATO's... I imagine that won't be the story when this inevitably gets picked up by the mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Could end up an expensive arms race or a new treaty. I'm thinking Putin will choose arms race.Reagan won that race but with conventional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Putin doesn't have the economic resources to engage in a meaningful arms race. Were he to try, we still have the ability to pump out a lot more shale oil to depress the price of oil - his major revenue stream. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 43 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Putin doesn't have the economic resources to engage in a meaningful arms race. Were he to try, we still have the ability to pump out a lot more shale oil to depress the price of oil - his major revenue stream. Our ultimate weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Is all the evidence in? Are they set to Impeach President Trump yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, Gary M said: Is all the evidence in? Are they set to Impeach President Trump yet? They can't impeach Trump until civility is restored and civility can't be restored until the Dems win the House and the Dems can't win the house until they convince America that winning is bad for the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRome Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 PapaD dropping bombs on his twitter feed: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, KevinRome said: PapaD dropping bombs on his twitter feed: I would suggest Papadopoulos visit a psychiatrist and a cardiologist, he seems like a prime candidate for an unforeseen heart attack or double tap suicide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/maria-butina-russian-gun-rights-advocate-charged-in-mueller-probe-moved-to-va-jail/2018/08/18/66a74252-a302-11e8-93e3-24d1703d2a7a_story.html Maria Butina, Russian gun rights advocate charged in federal probe, moved to Va. jail ...aannnd 2+ months later... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/ap-investigation-russian-charged-as-secret-agent-maria-butina-studied-us-groups-cyberdefenses-for-student-project/%3famp=1 AP Investigation: Russian charged as secret agent, Maria Butina, studied US groups’ cyberdefenses for student project ... but we're supposed to believe Russia didn't influence the 2016 Presidential election???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/maria-butina-russian-gun-rights-advocate-charged-in-mueller-probe-moved-to-va-jail/2018/08/18/66a74252-a302-11e8-93e3-24d1703d2a7a_story.html Maria Butina, Russian gun rights advocate charged in federal probe, moved to Va. jail ...aannnd 2+ months later... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/ap-investigation-russian-charged-as-secret-agent-maria-butina-studied-us-groups-cyberdefenses-for-student-project/%3famp=1 AP Investigation: Russian charged as secret agent, Maria Butina, studied US groups’ cyberdefenses for student project ... but we're supposed to believe Russia didn't influence the 2016 Presidential election???? Decided to go through this thread because I haven't heard about Russia in a while. I don't think anybody on here is saying Russia didn't try to influence the election as their ability to spread fake news through twitter, facebook, and other social media platforms have become more sophisticated. Just that there's been no hard evidence up to this point that Trump colluded with the Russians (I'll wait for Mueller's report to come out). If anything, the Russian probe has maybe pushed the Trump administration to take a harder stance with Russia. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/maria-butina-russian-gun-rights-advocate-charged-in-mueller-probe-moved-to-va-jail/2018/08/18/66a74252-a302-11e8-93e3-24d1703d2a7a_story.html Maria Butina, Russian gun rights advocate charged in federal probe, moved to Va. jail ...aannnd 2+ months later... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/ap-investigation-russian-charged-as-secret-agent-maria-butina-studied-us-groups-cyberdefenses-for-student-project/%3famp=1 AP Investigation: Russian charged as secret agent, Maria Butina, studied US groups’ cyberdefenses for student project ... but we're supposed to believe Russia didn't influence the 2016 Presidential election???? Of course they tried to interfere in our election, just as they have every election since pretty much forever; just as we actively try to influence the elections of other countries. Are you completely new to geo-politics? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/maria-butina-russian-gun-rights-advocate-charged-in-mueller-probe-moved-to-va-jail/2018/08/18/66a74252-a302-11e8-93e3-24d1703d2a7a_story.html Maria Butina, Russian gun rights advocate charged in federal probe, moved to Va. jail ...aannnd 2+ months later... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/ap-investigation-russian-charged-as-secret-agent-maria-butina-studied-us-groups-cyberdefenses-for-student-project/%3famp=1 AP Investigation: Russian charged as secret agent, Maria Butina, studied US groups’ cyberdefenses for student project ... but we're supposed to believe Russia didn't influence the 2016 Presidential election???? Tell me Mr. Trump detractor, who had all the Czars? When you figure that one out Comrade, then you'll know who colluded with the Russkies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Of course they tried to interfere in our election, just as they have every election since pretty much forever; just as we actively try to influence the elections of other countries. Are you completely new to geo-politics? I'm sorry... are you responding to what I said? It doesn't seem like it, despite your choice of quoting me. Did you mean to quote someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/public-safety/maria-butina-russian-gun-rights-advocate-charged-in-mueller-probe-moved-to-va-jail/2018/08/18/66a74252-a302-11e8-93e3-24d1703d2a7a_story.html Maria Butina, Russian gun rights advocate charged in federal probe, moved to Va. jail ...aannnd 2+ months later... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/ap-investigation-russian-charged-as-secret-agent-maria-butina-studied-us-groups-cyberdefenses-for-student-project/%3famp=1 AP Investigation: Russian charged as secret agent, Maria Butina, studied US groups’ cyberdefenses for student project ... but we're supposed to believe Russia didn't influence the 2016 Presidential election???? Pretty sure that most people accept that yes, in fact, Russia DID purchase advertising on Facebook and post memes in an attempt to influence the more soft-headed of the electorate. Personally, as you'd have to have been sealed in a barrel for 20 years to have not had an opinion on Trump or Hillary before the primaries even started, I think this... ...was largely ineffective. If it was, if anyone was so clueless as to be influenced by something like this, then democracy is dead anyway. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: ... but we're supposed to believe Russia didn't influence the 2016 Presidential election???? 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: I'm sorry... are you responding to what I said? It doesn't seem like it, despite your choice of quoting me. Did you mean to quote someone else? That first post was, you, right? Yes, I'm responding to what you said. No one has ever intimated that Russia didn't try to interfere in our elections. I mean, the media and the political left has tried to manufacture a narrative that President Trump doesn't think they tried to interfere, which is wholly untrue, and part of their larger strategy to frame the President in order to stage a coup attempt and delegitimize him, but literally no one believes the Russians didn't try to interfere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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