njbuff Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 This Russian thing is a bigger hoax than black victimization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just replying so I can skip to the front of this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 This Russia conspiracy is all we need to know about the lunacy of the left. ALL facts point to nothing, in fact Hillary has far more Nefarious relationships with Russia. But the delicate little snowflakes need to grasp onto something as they try and cope with the fact that Trump won... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) This Russia conspiracy is all we need to know about the lunacy of the left. ALL facts point to nothing, in fact Hillary has far more Nefarious relationships with Russia. But the delicate little snowflakes need to grasp onto something as they try and cope with the fact that Trump won... IMO it's a mistake to politicize this further. The left/DNC/Hillary have clear agendas, yes. But it's the elements within the USIC who have deliberately pushed false information on the American public in an effort to shape opinions (incorrect opinions) which is the real concern. Don't let them off the hook here by only focusing on scoring partisan points. This isn't about left or right. It's about whether or not we want to live in a country where the will of the people can be undermined by a select few unelected Intelligence Officers. That's the true threat to our republic. Edited October 5, 2017 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) Russian Hackers Stole NSA Data on U.S. Cyber Defense The breach, considered the most serious in years, could enable Russia to evade NSA surveillance and more easily infiltrate U.S. networks By Gordon Lubold and Shane Harris Oct. 5, 2017 12:48 p.m. ET WASHINGTON—Hackers working for the Russian government stole details of how the U.S. penetrates foreign computer networks and defends against cyberattacks after a National Security Agency contractor removed the highly classified material and put it on his home computer, according to multiple people with knowledge of the matter. https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-hackers-stole-nsa-data-on-u-s-cyber-defense-1507222108 Russian hackers stole NSA tools using Kaspersky antivirus: The reported breach took place in 2015 but wasn't discovered until spring of last year. http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/354068-russian-hackers-stole-nsa-hacking-tools-using-kaspersky-antivirus-report Edited October 5, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Putin's goal is to divide the west Trump’s Iran decision imperils vital alliances with European allies President Trump’s decision to decertify Iranian compliance with the nuclear deal could start a chain of events that would sharply divide the United States from its closest traditional allies in the world. Britain, France and Germany have each said publicly that they will not renegotiate the agreement. By Karen DeYoung and Carol Morello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Putin's goal is to divide the west Trump’s Iran decision imperils vital alliances with European allies President Trump’s decision to decertify Iranian compliance with the nuclear deal could start a chain of events that would sharply divide the United States from its closest traditional allies in the world. Britain, France and Germany have each said publicly that they will not renegotiate the agreement. By Karen DeYoung and Carol Morello Ya don't say!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Putin's goal is to divide the west And unite his useful stooges to that end. There is no end to the lengths they won't go to promote a coup in this country. What a waste of time and effort on the part of so many. Hope they keep their full body sized vagina costumes laundered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 BYRON YORK: 10 reasons to stay calm about those Russia Facebook ads. FTA: 1) Of the group of 3,000 ads turned over to Congress by Facebook, a majority of the impressions came after the election, not before. Indeed, in a news release Monday, Facebook said 56 percent of the ads’ impressions came after the 2016 vote. 2) Twenty-five percent of the ads were never seen by anybody. (Facebook also revealed that Monday.) 3) Most of the ads, which Facebook estimates were seen by a total of 10 million people in the United States, never mentioned the election or any candidate. “The vast majority of ads run by these accounts didn’t specifically reference the U.S. presidential election, voting or a particular candidate,” Facebook said in a Sept. 6 news release. 4) A relatively small number of the ads — again, about 25 percent — were geographically targeted. (Facebook also revealed that on September 6.) 5) The ads that were geographically targeted were all over the map. “Of those that were targeted, numerous other locales besides Michigan and Wisconsin, including non-battleground states like Texas, were targeted,” the government official familiar with the ads said, via email. 6) Very few ads specifically targeted Wisconsin or Michigan. “Of the hundreds of pre-election ads with one or more impressions, less than a dozen ads targeted Michigan and Wisconsin combined,” the official said. 7) By and large, the ads targeting Michigan and Wisconsin did not run in the general election. “Nearly all of these Michigan and Wisconsin ads ran in 2015 and also ran in other states,” the official said. 8) The Michigan and Wisconsin ads were not widely seen. “The majority of these Wisconsin and Michigan ads had less than 1,000 impressions,” the official said. 9) The Michigan and Wisconsin ads (like those everywhere else) were low-budget. “The buy for the majority of these Michigan and Wisconsin ads (paid in rubles) was equivalent to approximately $10,” the official said. 10) The ads just weren’t very good. The language used in some of the ads “clearly shows the ad writer was not a native English speaker,” the official said. In addition, the set of ads turned over by Facebook also contained “clickbait-type ads that had nothing to do with politics.” And in general, the official’s view is that the ads simply were not terribly sophisticated, contrary to how they have been portrayed. The eleventh reason: Russia wants us upset about these ads, in order to discredit the result of the election and to turn Americans against one another. In this effort, the Kremlin is being aided and abetted by high-level members of the Democratic Party. https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/277613/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 BYRON YORK: 10 reasons to stay calm about those Russia Facebook ads. FTA: 1) Of the group of 3,000 ads turned over to Congress by Facebook, a majority of the impressions came after the election, not before. Indeed, in a news release Monday, Facebook said 56 percent of the ads’ impressions came after the 2016 vote. 2) Twenty-five percent of the ads were never seen by anybody. (Facebook also revealed that Monday.) 3) Most of the ads, which Facebook estimates were seen by a total of 10 million people in the United States, never mentioned the election or any candidate. “The vast majority of ads run by these accounts didn’t specifically reference the U.S. presidential election, voting or a particular candidate,” Facebook said in a Sept. 6 news release. 4) A relatively small number of the ads — again, about 25 percent — were geographically targeted. (Facebook also revealed that on September 6.) 5) The ads that were geographically targeted were all over the map. “Of those that were targeted, numerous other locales besides Michigan and Wisconsin, including non-battleground states like Texas, were targeted,” the government official familiar with the ads said, via email. 6) Very few ads specifically targeted Wisconsin or Michigan. “Of the hundreds of pre-election ads with one or more impressions, less than a dozen ads targeted Michigan and Wisconsin combined,” the official said. 7) By and large, the ads targeting Michigan and Wisconsin did not run in the general election. “Nearly all of these Michigan and Wisconsin ads ran in 2015 and also ran in other states,” the official said. 8) The Michigan and Wisconsin ads were not widely seen. “The majority of these Wisconsin and Michigan ads had less than 1,000 impressions,” the official said. 9) The Michigan and Wisconsin ads (like those everywhere else) were low-budget. “The buy for the majority of these Michigan and Wisconsin ads (paid in rubles) was equivalent to approximately $10,” the official said. 10) The ads just weren’t very good. The language used in some of the ads “clearly shows the ad writer was not a native English speaker,” the official said. In addition, the set of ads turned over by Facebook also contained “clickbait-type ads that had nothing to do with politics.” And in general, the official’s view is that the ads simply were not terribly sophisticated, contrary to how they have been portrayed. The eleventh reason: Russia wants us upset about these ads, in order to discredit the result of the election and to turn Americans against one another. In this effort, the Kremlin is being aided and abetted by high-level members of the Democratic Party. https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/277613/ And more alarmingly (to me) is they're being aided and abetted by high level members past and present of the USIC. The politics of this narrative are secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Protests for Navalny across Russia on Putin birthday More than 100 people have been arrested as supporters of opposition leader Alexei Navalny hold protests in some 80 cities across Russia, reports say. The rallies coincide with President Vladimir Putin's 65th birthday. Most are unauthorised, including those in Moscow and St Petersburg. Mr Navalny is currently serving 20 days in jail for repeatedly violating a law on organising public meetings Hundreds marched in Moscow - the banner reads: "We demand honest elections" http://www.bbc.com/n...europe-41538256 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) More from the left leaning Nation... (who still have not retracted their evisceration of the ICA despite a few on here saying it was going to happen): Russiagate Is More Fiction Than Fact Yet nearly one year later there is still no concrete evidence of its central allegations. There are claims by US intelligence officials that the Russian government hacked e-mails and used social media to help elect Donald Trump, but there has yet to be any corroboration. Although the oft-cited January intelligence report “uses the strongest language and offers the most detailed assessment yet,” The Atlantic observed that “it does not or cannot provide evidence for its assertions.” Noting the “absence of any proof” and “hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack,” The New York Times concluded that the intelligence community’s message “essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’” That remains the case today. (snip) But the focus on Russia has utility far beyond the Clinton camp. It dovetails with elements of state power that oppose Trump’s call for improved relations with Moscow and who are willing to deploy a familiar playbook of Cold War fearmongering to block any developments on that front. The multiple investigations and anonymous leaks are also a tool to pacify an erratic president whose anti-interventionist rhetoric—by all indications, a ruse—alarmed foreign-policy elites during the campaign. Corporate media outlets driven by clicks and ratings are inexorably drawn to the scandal. The public is presented with a real-life spy thriller, which for some carries the added appeal of possibly undoing a reviled president and his improbable victory. https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-is-more-fiction-than-fact/ Again, I point this more towards the left leaning folks on this board, the same ones who undoubtedly spent 8 years lamenting Dubya's WMD debacle and the Iraqi invasion... This is not a case of the same faceless agencies who bungled the WMD question asking you to trust their assessment on Russia - it's the same people within those same agencies. The same people who many on the left were convinced were liars misleading us into war under false pretenses just a decade ago are now being trusted (without evidence) by the left as paragons of virtue and honesty - despite it being proven that the only piece of evidence they've offered this time was not only tampered with, but forensically proven to be impossible. Take a step back from the partisan hysteria and really look at the information and who is presenting it to you while asking you to "trust them". It's the same group of usual suspects who have track records of perjury and overseeing unconstitutional actions on behalf of the security state (illegal torture programs, illegal domestic surveillance, the WMD disaster et al...). This isn't about left or right. It's not about Trump or Hillary. It really isn't even about the US versus Russia. It's about a select group within the USIC who profit from being able to determine the nation's foreign policy agendas. They want more war. More surveillance. Less civil liberties for the people they claim to be "protecting". And now they have both sides convinced the malfeasance begins and ends with political operatives trying to score political points. In 2001-2003 we sacrificed our 4th amendment and 5th amendment rights as Americans because we were told by these very people it was the only way to keep us safe from "terrorists". Do you feel safer today? Is the world more stable or less stable? Do you have more rights or less rights today than you did in 2000? Now these same people are back for our first amendment rights, asking you to trust their censorship of information and speech, speech and information you're not allowed to see because they do not trust you to know truth from fiction (this despite the decades spent by the USIC to purposefully confuse that issue with propaganda and information warefar waged on its own people and the world at large). Our freedom of speech and press is now a vulnerability to these people. Think about that! Arguably the most indispensable civil liberties for any functioning definition of "freedom" are no longer strengths of our system, but weaknesses we must give up in order to protect ourselves... from what? From losing our freedom? From losing our country? It's backwards and upside down. More to the point: It's a trap, ya'll. Don't be a sucker. Drop the partisanship on this issue and let's come together to protect each other from this kind of draconian overreach by the USIC. Edited October 7, 2017 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 But... but... we're at war with Russia? http://fortune.com/2017/09/28/nasa-and-russia-deep-space-gateway/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 But... but... we're at war with Russia? http://fortune.com/2017/09/28/nasa-and-russia-deep-space-gateway/ You know who else was at war with Russia? Hitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Japan and Finland too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 good thing i use myspace. can't have any russian interference there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 How's this coming? Anything found with the millions spent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 How's this coming? Anything found with the millions spent? Well, it cost us $75m and four years to go from an investigation that started with looking into land deals conducted in the 70s and 80s only to end up with a lie about a blowjob so who knows how much and how long it will take to get to Russian hookers administering golden showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Well, it cost us $75m and four years to go from an investigation that started with looking into land deals conducted in the 70s and 80s only to end up with a lie about a blowjob so who knows how much and how long it will take to get to Russian hookers administering golden showers. So he's a self-hating misogynist/predator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) This Russian thing is a bigger hoax than black victimization. Consider: Every news report I see and hear about this Russian concussion has a disclaimer written by a liability lawyer: "Sources within x have reported" "It has been stated that" "It is believed by unnamed officials" The hue and cry is particularly amusing when it comes from those who materially provided resources and dollars to interfere with foreign politics worldwide (Ukraine, Israel, Brexit) and don't get me started on the CIA (the aforementioned, plus everyone else, plus the USA) Edited October 9, 2017 by Ralonzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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