26CornerBlitz Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 @viccarucci Hearing it has Doug Whaley who convinced #Bills owner Terry Pegula to part ways w Rex Ryan & pushed for Anthony Lynn to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (27 December 2016 - 12:35 PM) I think A-Lynn's chances of remaining HC will depend upon what his thoughts are in regards to the DC going forward. I think A-Lynn's chance of becoming HC is dependent on the Bills not conducting a coaching search beyond the boundaries of OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Since that was reported at the time of those hires and RB had more pull in the organization when Ralph was owner, I'd say it's likely to be correct. Whaley was almost a " junior GM" of sorts. Most GM pick their HC. What came out of Pegulas own mouth was that Doug Whaley was the one who conducted the football part of the interview. He was the guy and all those eggs were in his basket. The "football part" would seem to be an important piece of hiring a head football coach to me. People can parse and nuance that anyway they want, obviously. Also, FWIW, when hiring middle or upper-middle managers, regardless of the business, it is common for the candidate to meet and talk with the management chain-of-command. It's not necessarily a decision made by one person on the team overruling everyone else in the room as some sort of supreme dictator. The word is consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Most coaches do NOT get fired under these circumstances. Most coaches don't take a strength of the team and turn it into a weakness. This was a unique situation and largely the result of the Pegulas inexperience. It wasn't a good fit: the defensive personnel was not suited to Rex Ryan's scheme. At least they admitted their mistake and moved on sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 WGR: Lynn notified last week that he would be elevated: http://www.wgr550.com/Source-Lynn-notified-last-week/22972501 Dammit! hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 @viccarucci Hearing it has Doug Whaley who convinced #Bills owner Terry Pegula to part ways w Rex Ryan & pushed for Anthony Lynn to replace him. Dear Doug: there is no other person on football side to throw under the bus. You are the last man standing. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Reasons to start EJ vs the Jets: -- The Bills haven't decided what to do about TT. If he gets hurt they're on the hook for his salary. The Pegulas aren't afraid to dump cash, but the salary cap is the issue. Personally I think the Bills should keep TT. He's flawed (throws late a lot) but also has unique strengths (running). There are no alternatives available. -- Cardale is not ready. -- EJ is an experienced QB. Not very good, but actually better than some starters in the league and definitely better than many backups. The Bills won't retain him but if he shows well this week he'll have some trade value. -- Lose and get the #9 pick. Win and it could be #19, To get those 10 spots back in all the rounds of the draft, the Bills would have to trade other pics or some valued player. Not worth it. No one cares except the coaches and players if we're 7-9 or 8-8. Some of those are likely mutually exclusive. If EJ plays well the Bills could win, and still lose those draft slots, but at least we might get value for EJ. EJ will be an unrestricted FA . Zero trade ability by the Bills. The lower draft spot would benefit them and is part of Whaleys MO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Few years later and here we are...Doug Whaley and EJ Manuel... Time for Sully and crew to do what they do best. Torch the living hell out of this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 @viccarucci Hearing it has Doug Whaley who convinced #Bills owner Terry Pegula to part ways w Rex Ryan & pushed for Anthony Lynn to replace him. i wouldnt read a TON into the lynn bit -- only so many options and with pulling both rex and rob out of the defensive room the HC this week should have been an offensive guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Dear Doug: there is no other person on football side to throw under the bus. You are the last man standing. Good luck. True but it seemed like Rex was a Pegula hire, if you remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Anthony Lynn had a heck of a promotion this year. LOL A fast riser. What it means about Taylor is he doesn't get to play this week. Also likely means he doesn't stay absent renegotiated contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I guess we will judge all future Bills coaches in less than two years and without considering: 1) whether he was the most successful Bills coach in past 17 years; 2) depth of injuries to key players and positions; 3) bottom half QB play for most part; 4) having to play street free agents; 5) suspensions. Hmmmm Tissue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 i wouldnt read a TON into the lynn bit -- only so many options and with pulling both rex and rob out of the defensive room the HC this week should have been an offensive guy. Given the firing today was only done to humiliate Rex, this won't be an attractive job (if it ever was). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 If it is Lynn, he will have a hard time attracting a quality DC candidate. I wonder if the other current coaches will remain or whether they will be released from their obligations following the final game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I don't agree with all the Whaley hate. He's brought in a lot of talent, certainly more than Miami has, and they're going to the playoffs. It's been coaching and culture holding back the team. Whaley had misses. He gave up too much for Watkins when he didn't have a great QB. Cart before the horse. But then it turned out TT could throw a great deep ball and when Watkins wasn't injured TT looked a lot better. He paid too much for Dareus, who's too lazy and selfish to be the guy he ought to be. Clay has been OK but not worth the cost. Whaley also had real wins. Jerry Hughes for whatshisname. McCoy for Kiko, who's never been as good since his rookie year. Lorax out of nowhere. Incognito. Keeping Cordy Glenn and Wood. I also think the Pegulas talk to the other owners, and Whaley's reputation from his time with the Steelers is very good. I think the other owners tell the Pegs that Rex was the problem, and Whaley is on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Given the firing today was only done to humiliate Rex, this won't be an attractive job (if it ever was). +1 and if Anthony Lynn is the best they do, yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Tissue?Oh brother True but it seemed like Rex was a Pegula hire, if you remember. Doug was all in on hire. Revisionist history to suggest otherwise. Edited December 27, 2016 by Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 The Bills and Whaley are actually doing something smart by playing EJ vs the Jets. Almost guarantees we lose and will secure the 9th overall pick. Although not a fan of him but thank you Doug. At least someone is thinking ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Given the firing today was only done to humiliate Rex, this won't be an attractive job (if it ever was). The "bonus" firing of his brother speaks volumes. Particularly when a general housecleaning could happen in just a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 If it is Lynn, he will have a hard time attracting a quality DC candidate. I wonder if the other current coaches will remain or whether they will be released from their obligations following the final game. i disagree. we have a lot of talent and to show a big jump from rex's results would be a nice feather in a guys cap. it would not be unreasonable to see a quick return to schwartz caliber rankings. The "bonus" firing of his brother speaks volumes. Particularly when a general housecleaning could happen in just a few days. there was no way that rob was staying after rex was canned. those two were a single entity as far as moves are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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