Direhard Fan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Can we bid on his truck?? Only problem is, it's a Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'd like to know which FO bozo agreed to hand Ryan a 5 year deal instead of a 3 year deal. It's not like he was coming off a couple of spectacular seasons. Pegula just flushed 15 mil down the train on Rex's last 3 years of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Maybe I am but if that's the case why isn't Whaley fired also? I have my suspicions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 If that's true Doug is an idiot who really need to go. If this happens it shows me there isn't much to look forward to with this team as long as Whaley is around.pegs spending $15 mil on rex not to mention the other coaches he fired. TT getting injured ties him to the Bills and $30+ mil so he's protecting their interests by doing this. Guess this means TT won't be back either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 http://hootingyard.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/vultures-2.jpg It looks a lot like Whaley was the one who pushed Rex out the door so you should spread your wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 if we keep whaley he should have 100% authority in this search Antiquated organizational structure. Whaley was on the radio last week saying "I'm in charge of the 53, Rex the 46." Now we're hearing that Rex's desire to play Tyrod this week was the last straw. So again, get a president of football operations to oversee both GM and coach because Pegulas have zero clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Wonder if Schwartz would come back as HC and return the defense to its previous form, keep Lynn as OC/assistant HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Very troublesome. Yet some wonder why things never change around here. Rex needed to go, but my hopes for the future will be modest until I see more changes made before hiring a new coach. Sadly, I don't see that happening. It's not troublesome. Say what you will about Whaley ( I'm not a huge fan) but NFL protocol is that the GM hires the HC. Whaley appears safe , so let him do his job as defined by NFL tradition. His a$$ is on the line, it should not involve Russ Brandon at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 pegs spending $15 mil on rex not to mention the other coaches he fired. TT getting injured ties him to the Bills and $30+ mil so he's protecting their interests by doing this. Guess this means TT won't be back either? all it means is the next coach will not be forced to keep an injured taylor. whoever they choose could say that he really wants tyrod this year still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Do any of us really know that Whaley did not support the hiring of Marrone or Ryan or that they were not his first choice? Seems like there is a lot of information being put out there about the Bills, and much of it seems to be an effort to support a narrative about Whaley not having full say about the hiring of our recent HCs. This is similar to the who drafted EJ and who traded for Hughes arguments. Seems like anything negative about the Bills is attributed to Brandon, the Pegulas and Nix. Anything positive to Whaley. Makes no sense. It makes sense. If one chooses the certain point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'd like to know which FO bozo agreed to hand Ryan a 5 year deal instead of a 3 year deal. It's not like he was coming off a couple of spectacular seasons. Pegula just flushed 15 mil down the train on Rex's last 3 years of his contract. Again from teh Rex hire thread: Alex Marvez @alexmarvez 2m2 minutes ago I'm also told Pegulas were HEAVILY involved in this hire. May have sweetened the pot considerably to land Rex for @buffalobills @NFLonFOX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Antiquated organizational structure. Whaley was on the radio last week saying "I'm in charge of the 53, Rex the 46." Now we're hearing that Rex's desire to play Tyrod this week was the last straw. So again, get a president of football operations to oversee both GM and coach because Pegulas have zero clue. a huge option bonus that would lock a guy into starting qb the 53 for years to come is a bit of a different beast than they will run into with almost any o ther situation. whaley should have an opinion on that, and frankly rex should agree with this stance if he actually cares about the franchise and not himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 pegs spending $15 mil on rex not to mention the other coaches he fired. TT getting injured ties him to the Bills and $30+ mil so he's protecting their interests by doing this. Guess this means TT won't be back either? Not necessarily but it's a smart move. Let the GM and HC make the decision, not an injury. HC candidates may have differing opinions and Whaley is keeping his options open including trading for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering bills fan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Antiquated organizational structure. Whaley was on the radio last week saying "I'm in charge of the 53, Rex the 46." Now we're hearing that Rex's desire to play Tyrod this week was the last straw. So again, get a president of football operations to oversee both GM and coach because Pegulas have zero clue. Whether Whaley is retained or not, I believe that the coach should report to the gm, not directly to the Owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Do any of us really know that Whaley did not support the hiring of Marrone or Ryan or that they were not his first choice? Seems like there is a lot of information being put out there about the Bills, and much of it seems to be an effort to support a narrative about Whaley not having full say about the hiring of our recent HCs. This is similar to the who drafted EJ and who traded for Hughes arguments. Seems like anything negative about the Bills is attributed to Brandon, the Pegulas and Nix. Anything positive to Whaley. Makes no sense. After Whaley helped build the 2014 defense, do you think he wanted to hire a coach that was going to dismantle it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 It is kind of nuts that Whaley is conducting the HC search. After Marrone and Rex, you would have thought the Pegulas would retain a consultant to help with them the football side of things. Tells me that there was truth to Whaley not being the person who had authority to hire the coach. At least to this point we have not heard that Russ and the Pegula's will be involved like the last search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 It's not troublesome. Say what you will about Whaley ( I'm not a huge fan) but NFL protocol is that the GM hires the HC. Whaley appears safe , so let him do his job as defined by NFL tradition. His a$$ is on the line, it should not involve Russ Brandon at all. Agreed last thing I want to hear is that ownership and Russ are in on these meetings. I don't want anyone influencing who the next coach should be. Whaley needs to find someone who shares the same vision for this team knowing full well his job is on the line if things don't turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 a huge option bonus that would lock a guy into starting qb the 53 for years to come is a bit of a different beast than they will run into with almost any o ther situation. whaley should have an opinion on that, and frankly rex should agree with this stance if he actually cares about the franchise and not himself. Well that seemed to be Rex's main issue, right? Concern with himself; his reputation and his defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I have my suspicions. Care to share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 It makes sense. If one chooses the certain point of view. Since that was reported at the time of those hires and RB had more pull in the organization when Ralph was owner, I'd say it's likely to be correct. Whaley was almost a " junior GM" of sorts. Most GM pick their HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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