BuffaloBillsForever Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 That's true. If you line up Jones, Manuel and Taylor I'd be hard pressed to tell one from the other. If you line up the ones they draft on the other hand. Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 3m3 minutes ago Good point by Whaley on Cardale Jones: "He doesn't have any muscle memory already ingrained in him that's bad. So we have a piece of clay." What??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 So the backup plan to Tyrod Taylor is Cardale Jones. LMAO. Your position is clear. If you have anything to add to the conversation please feel free. If you're going to continue to LYAO and offer nothing of substance I recommend you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyDavisEyes Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Bills take a flyer on the most physically gifted qb in the draft who won and played exceptionally well on the biggest stage that college football has to offer with THE LAST PICK IN THE 4TH ROUND!!! and you got the same people bi+chin' that are always bi+chin' Too Funny! Keep it up Whaley!! You da man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 If TT tears it up this year you sign him to another contract. If not hopefully Cardale is ready. One things for sure, he won't have a problem throwing at the Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Meaning that you don't have to "love" this pick because it makes sense on paper, if you think Cardale has terrible habits and sucks. There's a large degree of subjectivity, up to and including random gut feelings. I love the pick for some of the reasons you stated and more. But I don't think everyone should. It sounds like it is, seeing as this is the first pick that poster said he hated... No time for your windmills. Either talk about the topic being discussed, or don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Bills take a flyer on the most physically gifted qb in the draft who won and played exceptionally well on the biggest stage that college football has to offer with THE LAST PICK IN THE 4TH ROUND!!! and you got the same people bi+chin' that are always bi+chin' Too Funny! Keep it up Whaley!! You da man! Welcome to the board. And you better get used to the moaning.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Long live Whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 @adamschefter With smaller-framed Tyrod Taylor, Bills' OC Greg Roman could use new Buffalo QB Cardale Jones in short-yardage situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Wasted pick. A guy who only started a handful of games in college. At this point why even bother taking a QB. Had to be a better use for a 4th round pick.....and he never lost a game and won a national championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 What I am suggesting is that he will do so poorly that they won't mind exposing him. They will invest the take that it takes for him to develop. Not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I don't love this pick because any QB taken in the later rounds is typically a wasted pick. And yet... we had to pick a QB at some point. Both our QBs are nearing the end of their contracts and TT is not a proven franchise guy. Jones is raw but has shown flashes of brilliance. Let's say Roman and Lee mold him into a quality backup. Is he still a waste of a 4th round pick? How much is a good backup QB worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I don't love this pick because any QB taken in the later rounds is typically a wasted pick. And yet... we had to pick a QB at some point. Both our QBs are nearing the end of their contracts and TT is not a proven franchise guy. Jones is raw but has shown flashes of brilliance. Let's say Roman and Lee mold him into a quality backup. Is he still a waste of a 4th round pick? How much is a good backup QB worth? It's barely a 4th round pick. It was essentially a 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Good use of the last pick in the fourth round. Five minutes later, and we'd be talking about the Bills spending a fifth round pick on him. I can't understand criticism of this pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'm fine with the value. They were hell bent on a QB, didn't reach, let the board come to them. What's your take on Cardale Blokes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 or Patriots. Lucking into Brady was their last successful QB Umm. What about a guy named Bledsoe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) 4-30: NEWEST BILLS QB CARDALE JONES WITH MATTHEW COLLER ON WGR (6:19) Edited April 30, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It's barely a 4th round pick. It was essentially a 5th. Missed it by one minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Hate this pick Hating this draft more and more Last two picks offer little to no help this year. Ragland better start and play well or Whaley is gone too funny. I believe you were the one who surmised the Bills might trade up into the the 3rd to take FSU K Aguayo ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 @adamschefter With smaller-framed Tyrod Taylor, Bills' OC Greg Roman could use new Buffalo QB Cardale Jones in short-yardage situations. Great point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Wasted pick. A guy who only started a handful of games in college. At this point why even bother taking a QB. Had to be a better use for a 4th round pick. I don't even know how you coped when we had Jauron and selected Aaron Maybin for our 1st round pick. It's amazing you're still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 What I am suggesting is that he will do so poorly that they won't mind exposing him.Have you ever seen him play? I have seen every snap in his career and am great with the pick. If you point to the struggles last year it was a direct result of Noah Brown's injury. He was the guy that was filling the Devin Smith role. Cardale is has huge upside!! You try to hit home runs on day 3 (ask Seattle and New England). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyDavisEyes Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Welcome to the board. And you better get used to the moaning.... Thank you sir! Been following the board for years but got season tickets for the first time going into this season. So i figured I'd join the fray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Great point.he hurdles linebackers and can run over linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Thank you sir! Been following the board for years but got season tickets for the first time going into this season. So i figured I'd join the fray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 If you line up the ones they draft on the other hand. What??? Let me translate for you. He doesn't have any bad habits to unlearn, like...I don't know...Christian Hackenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullpen Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I don't follow college football but your post just made me feel a whole lot better about this pick I have to admit, this made me el-oh-el way more than it probably should have! Cardale Jones led the Buckeyes to the National Championship two seasons ago as a third stringer. He played very well on a phenomenal team against Oregon. Last season, he struggled. He was inconsistent. He never started a full season so we can assume that he has a lot of learning to do. The Bills may have rushed Manuel. Bring Jones along slowly. This ^^^^^^^^^. I'm not enamored with the pick, but I don't loathe it either. The bed's already been made, so the Bills might as well take some time and let the guy develop and learn while in the pipeline. Way too much sniping from both sides of the aisle in this thread. I'm cleaning this thread up so quite a few posts are already gone. I will not look the other way on any garbage following this post. UH-OH!! Dad's pissed. Hide the belt!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I like it this pick for its value and the fact that he comes from a winning program. I have the feeling that kid from Dakota is in for a rude awakening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) he hurdles linebackers and can run over linemen.Hell, I was just thinking of a plain old fashioned QB sneak. Edited April 30, 2016 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Love it. Highest ceiling of any QB in the draft and it won't create any divide in the locker room as Cardale needs some time. Daunte Caulpepper on his way to BLO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 @adamschefter With smaller-framed Tyrod Taylor, Bills' OC Greg Roman could use new Buffalo QB Cardale Jones in short-yardage situations. Brad Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 He's EJ Manuel with less talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Brad Smith. Yes because that's the best comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I like it this pick for its value and the fact that he comes from a winning program. I have the feeling that kid from Dakota is in for a rude awakening. EJ didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 too funny. I believe you were the one who surmised the Bills might trade up into the the 3rd to take FSU K Aguayo ....... Wasn't Aguayo taken in the second? Maybe it wasn't such a bad idea....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Yes because that's the best comparison. Short yardage comparison...not QB...as per bolded I get a sense you don't like this pick either? Edited April 30, 2016 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'm not arguing that it should be universally loved, but it fills a need with a player with a very high ceiling for essentially a 5th round pick. Not sure what other QB would be a bette fit from those left on the board.Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I like it this pick for its value and the fact that he comes from a winning program. I have the feeling that kid from Dakota is in for a rude awakening.You mean Wentz? NDSU has won the last five FCS titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Hell, I was just thinking of a plain old fashioned QB sneak.that works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 He'll be on the 53. No way they expose him to waivers. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) They can't save any money on EJ by cutting him. They can, however, save a roster spot..... As a calculating risk taker, I like this play. Might hit....not much ventured in terms of draft choice...... Edited April 30, 2016 by bigK14094 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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