Blokestradamus Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 If Ragland, Smith, or Jack are there, I'm taking them. IMO this is our biggest area of need going into the off-season. I think our LB core is pretty bad and virtually every great defense throughout history had a HOF quality LB. Bobby Wagner (off to a great start of career), Patrick Willis, Ray Lewis, Derrick Brooks, Mike Singletary, Even the teams with only flashes of greatness always had a very good / great LB. Von Miller, Clay Mathews, LT, Paup/Spielman Bennett/Talley, and Fletcher/Spikes. We don't have anyone even close to the level of any of the guys I just mentioned and it shows. I definitely agree with Jack & Ragland. I have some doubts whether Jaylon would be a fit in a 3-4 (think he would be a great 4-3 Will). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I like me some Scooby Wright. He isn't the athlete some of these other guys are but his pre snap reads and instincts are excellent and since I am pretty sure we are using the #1 pick on the D Line, Scooby would be a great pickup in round 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 If Ragland, Smith, or Jack are there, I'm taking them. IMO this is our biggest area of need going into the off-season. I think our LB core is pretty bad and virtually every great defense throughout history had a HOF quality LB. Bobby Wagner (off to a great start of career), Patrick Willis, Ray Lewis, Derrick Brooks, Mike Singletary, Even the teams with only flashes of greatness always had a very good / great LB. Von Miller, Clay Mathews, LT, Paup/Spielman Bennett/Talley, and Fletcher/Spikes. We don't have anyone even close to the level of any of the guys I just mentioned and it shows. Pretty much sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) @mortreport Notre Dame OLB Jaylon Smith will undergo reconstructive left knee surgery Thursday, per sources. Has been top 5-10 draft projection. @csnchicago Report: Jaylon Smith suffered torn ACL, MCL in Fiesta Bowl http://www.csnchicago.com/notre-dame/report-jaylon-smith-suffered-torn-acl-mcl-fiesta-bowl Note: Jaylon has not yet declared Edited January 6, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 @mortreport Notre Dame OLB Jaylon Smith will undergo reconstructive left knee surgery Thursday, per sources. Has been top 5-10 draft projection. @csnchicago Report: Jaylon Smith suffered torn ACL, MCL in Fiesta Bowl http://www.csnchicago.com/notre-dame/report-jaylon-smith-suffered-torn-acl-mcl-fiesta-bowl Note: Jaylon has not yet declared Yeah, I think I'll pass on that. He's now a big question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Yeah, I think I'll pass on that. He's now a big question mark.it really sucks. Saw him as high as 2nd overall on some big boards but he won't be ready for camp if he comes out. Myles Jack tore his acl too but it was early fall so much easier to make that call. Edited January 6, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Free agency or lucky mid to late round draft pick. We need to fix the lines before anything else. But we do need a solid linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Yeah, I think I'll pass on that. He's now a big question mark. Isn't this the exact type of player that good teams take chances on with later 1st? Granted, they usually have the luxury of not having as many holes to fill, but I feel like good teams will take him, let him heal up, and if he comes back 100% then they get one of the best players in the draft way later than he should have gone. ACL/MCL injuries have pretty good recovery rates, guys who re-injure them are the exception now, not the rule. This wasn't a Lattimore or Chubb type injury where the knee was completely destroyed. As long as the Doc says his healing is progressing normally, I would still take him at 19. Edited January 6, 2016 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Isn't this the exact type of player that good teams take chances on with later 1st? Granted, they usually have the luxury of not having as many holes to fill, but I feel like good teams will take him, let him heal up, and if he comes back 100% then they get one of the best players in the draft way later than he should have gone. ACL/MCL injuries have pretty good recovery rates, guys who re-injure them are the exception now, not the rule. This wasn't a Lattimore or Chubb type injury where the knee was completely destroyed. As long as the Doc says his healing is progressing normally, I would still take him at 19. per Rapaport today, the fear is nerve damage as well and it's a very serious surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Miller would be sweet in this D He'd take Hughes spot. I don't know where you put jerry then... Reggie Ragland is nice... Matakevich from temple 2nd or 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 He'd take Hughes spot. I don't know where you put jerry then... Reggie Ragland is nice... Matakevich from temple 2nd or 3rd? Hughes off the right and Miller off the left, similar to Ware/Miller in Denver or Hali/Houston in KC, seems to work for them Ragland is limited athletically and in coverage from what I have seen, personally I would pass on him in the first, I like the idea of getting Tyler Matakevich in the 3rd more. I dont think Ragland is nearly the all around player C.J. Mosley was, and IMO more of a 2nd round guy, the Bills need more of a Derron Lee/Myles Jack/Jaylon Smith 3 down type in the 1st round (medical evaluations pending). I dont think you take a thumper type in the 1st... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Ragland is my pick in the 1stRagland is an incredible player. He is not quite as good as CJ Mosley was against the pass, but much, much better against the run. Ragland is a whole lot stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 And Ragland has a fantastic LB name, doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 And Ragland has a fantastic LB name, doesn't he? For some reason it reminds me of Ragnar Lothbrok which is so awesome CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 For some reason it reminds me of Ragnar Lothbrok which is so awesome CBF Is that show still airing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFFacet Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Isn't this the exact type of player that good teams take chances on with later 1st? Granted, they usually have the luxury of not having as many holes to fill, but I feel like good teams will take him, let him heal up, and if he comes back 100% then they get one of the best players in the draft way later than he should have gone. ACL/MCL injuries have pretty good recovery rates, guys who re-injure them are the exception now, not the rule. This wasn't a Lattimore or Chubb type injury where the knee was completely destroyed. As long as the Doc says his healing is progressing normally, I would still take him at 19. Recent reports indicate that its a very serious injury. Seems likely that he won't play at all next year. With so many immediate needs on defense and very limited cap available for FA this year , I don't think that we can afford to use #19 like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Recent reports indicate that its a very serious injury. Seems likely that he won't play at all next year. With so many immediate needs on defense and very limited cap available for FA this year , I don't think that we can afford to use #19 like that. while I think some team may take him in the 1st, I don't think it will be the Bills. They can't afford a 1st round pick to be on the shelf while also not having a lot of room to go out and get FAs. Edited January 6, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'd prefer if we cut Mario and used his money to get Von Miller. We probably need 2 new lBs though, so drafting a good run stuffer would be nice too. Is getting Von Miller even a possibility? Would the Broncos let him walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmz56 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Ragland is my guy ,too ! He's a beast ! If he's there , take him Mr. Whaley ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Is getting Von Miller even a possibility? Would the Broncos let him walk? i don't think they will but it might mean they can't pay ILB Danny Travathan, also an FA. Edited January 7, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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