Leroi Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 We already start the season 0-2. Keeping Leo, 0-3. He is a liability, he had a okay career with the Bills but his time has come. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 My concern in this discussion would be that he's no Jim Leonard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Culture of losing. Lol.yeah, Fred Jackson was part of the culture of losing here in Buffalo and there were pitchforks out after Whaley for even coming up with the idea of letting him go. That term always comes up for the players fans don't like, and McKelvin,no matter what he does on the field will always be hated because of when he was drafted and a couple of kick return fumbles, which no kick returner in NFL history has ever done.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I think he's improved every game since coming back, he's solid CB depth, and probably solid safety depth... why not keep good/solid players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 so many of our internet fans are "challenged". I'll leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Get his cap number more reasonable and he can be solid depth at both corner and safety along with maybe their best option at punt returner despite his recent adventures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I think he's improved every game since coming back, he's solid CB depth, and probably solid safety depth... why not keep good/solid players? but he fumbled a couple punts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Sounds good to me. Provides depth at S and CB. If he can be had for 1.2 mill or so I think it would be a solid move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I don't think he ever got his legs back into playing shape this season after his injury - in other words, I think he'll come back better than he was at the end of this season from an athletic standpoint. Leo has always been best with the ball in front of him, because he has a lot of trouble turning around to make a play on the ball. So safety would suit him in that sense, provided he's able to run like he used to. All of that said, safeties need to be bright. Leo is, well, not bright. So I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) As it should ! The Bills roster needs a bunch of tweaking & contracts of McKelvin, K. Williams, Mario, & others will all need to be looked at in order to keep other cornerstone players of the future I also believe a lot of players will be gone next year due to injury history or bad play . E.J. , Goodwin, Leodis, Duke, & more could be on the chopping block stay tuned ... Edited December 31, 2015 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 As much as I love Leodis, he is no longer my man. If he can make the move to safety for the vet minimum, I'd say fine. He is decent depth, but his days as a starter are over. Yet another 21st century first round bust, joining these illustrious names: 2000 Erik Flowers 2002 Mike Williams 2003 Willis McGahee 2004 J. P. Losman 2006 Donte Whitner 2006 John McCargo 2008 Leodis McKelvin 2009 Aaron Maybin 2010 C.J. Spiller No wonder we suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Get a real safety please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I'd say yes, assuming the pay cut he's willing to take is major. He'd make for great depth as a DB off the bench, primarily as a safety, but could fill in as a low depth CB in a pinch if he had to. I am with TTT It would matter how much of a pay cut lets keep in mind he never played S before this year.....and missed most of the season with the injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 My concern in this discussion would be that he's no Jim Leonard Leonard is more 'with it' asleep than McKelvin is wide awake on game day. I always have liked McKelvin as a competitor i have also always disliked his inability to grasp certain fundamentals. As safety McKelvin could keep the game in front of him more times than not. He is still very fast. Not sure if Rex's D is suited for a center field type ball hawker over the top? McKelvin is every bit as fast as Reed was in Baltimore but not nearly as physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I don't know. I have always though McKelvin has all of the physical skill needed, but poor instincts. I think safety is a position where good instincts are essential. I would love to have him as a backup. Whitner was successful after leaving. I really didn't like the guy, but he played better after he left. Lil Donte may have made a few Pro Bowls, but he was a huge liability in the 49ers playoff games including SB. Now, Lil Antoine? He was light years better with the Vikings than he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 As much as I love Leodis, he is no longer my man. If he can make the move to safety for the vet minimum, I'd say fine. He is decent depth, but his days as a starter are over. Yet another 21st century first round bust, joining these illustrious names: 2000 Erik Flowers 2002 Mike Williams 2003 Willis McGahee 2004 J. P. Losman 2006 Donte Whitner 2006 John McCargo 2008 Leodis McKelvin 2009 Aaron Maybin 2010 C.J. Spiller No wonder we suck. In terms of productivity to the franchise, Leodis and Whitner did do more than the rest. Problem is that they didn't become stars either. To be fair, neither of those two are outright busts, IMO, like Fat Mike or McCargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 This defense requires 3 safeties for a lot of the game. I don't like him in the box, but his biggest problem was always finding the ball - playing safety up top will hide this since he'll be able to read it much earlier. Plus - pay cut? Yes pleeeease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 It's hard to be Leodis McKelvin in the NFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Being in the minority yet again , i have been a fan of Leodis as soon as Donnie Henderson got a hold of him. Leo explained what Donnie taught him. Similar to what Darby has quickly learned from Coach. I love McKelvins attitude. I am surprised some of you cant dig it too. He is not football stupid like some think. he know where to be and when. If he can flex from safety to cb during a series without a sub. man thats valuable! I want him on our Bills. period. oh an please no more returns lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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