YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Seems like he's begging to go on IR at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 @RapSheet What does Percy Harvin's future hold? All options are on the table. He's out a while. The question is: Will his hip allow him to play again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 @AlbertBreer: Percy Harvin's temper problems created higher-profile issues. But the hip was always part of the package too. His talent overrode the risk. @AlbertBreer: Harvin's hip was flagged by teams at the '09 combine, to give you an idea of how far back this goes. Easy to see why he'd consider retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 @alexmarvez True: @Bills WR Percy Harvin contemplating retirement per @MikeGarafolo & me @NFLonFOX (@viccarucci 1st reported) http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/buffalo-bills-percy-harvin-considering-retirement-hip-injury-102215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Seems like he's begging to go on IR at this point Yep. If he were on IR, he'd have plenty of free time to do some traveling. Maybe a trip to Europe? I hear London is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Seems like he's begging to go on IR at this point or simply that hes a bit of an emotional dude, and may come back ready to play angry in a few weeks, but is simply in a dark spot now. who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 or simply that hes a bit of an emotional dude, and may come back ready to play angry in a few weeks, but is simply in a dark spot now. who knows.Whaley has his work cut out for him in figuring that out soon since they need the roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 http://grantland.com/the-triangle/tell-your-grandkids-about-the-2015-buffalo-bills/ So how's that "let's get a bunch of small quick guys and make them try to cover all of them" theory going? Tyrod, McCoy, Sammy, Percy ... all missing significant time. This is often spun by Bills fans as "why to bad things always happen to the Bills? Look at our injury list." The truth is: build your offense around small, quick guys who are higher than average injury risks, don't act shocked when they get injured. (I know, McCoy has been sturdy, put he's an aging back who depends on quickness) Totally agree -- small, quick guys like Karlos Williams, Kyle Williams, Sentrael Henderson, Tony Romo, Dez Bryant, Marshawn Lynch, Antwon Boldin, Eric Ebron, Ben Rothlisberger . . . Shall I go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Whaley has his work cut out for him in figuring that out soon since they need the roster spot. if sammy gets healthy, it buys a whole lot of leeway for carrying him as the 53rd spot a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 it was a 1 year deal. its not a very dramatic situation, really. hes fine to carry while we see what happens. we certainly arent cutting him til the offseason, but if it turns out hes done they will be fine IRing him. Hes injured you cant cut him---season ending IR yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 @AroundTheNFL Retirement a possibility? Lingering hip injury has Percy Harvin mulling all options http://at.nfl.com/Z0NFEKC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 if sammy gets healthy, it buys a whole lot of leeway for carrying him as the 53rd spot a couple of weeks. Why keep him??? Outside of a TD catch in the opener, what has he done for $6 million? If Sammy gets healthy? When Sammy comes back and in the first game back he pulls, strains, tweaks, sprains something, we are again left with no healthy receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Why keep him??? Outside of a TD catch in the opener, what has he done for $6 million? If Sammy gets healthy? When Sammy comes back and in the first game back he pulls, strains, tweaks, sprains something, we are again left with no healthy receivers. He missed a game and still has the 2nd most receptions on the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Why keep him??? Outside of a TD catch in the opener, what has he done for $6 million? If Sammy gets healthy? When Sammy comes back and in the first game back he pulls, strains, tweaks, sprains something, we are again left with no healthy receivers. because what is a 53rd guy thats not dressing on sunday and signed mid october going to do to help short term anyway? the gap between percy and a street WR is HUGE. We are paying him the $6m either way, so its not even worth mentioning. Edited October 22, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 i'd retire too if i had to play with EJ. heyoooooo i think a couple of weeks off will be good for Harvin and once we are in the thick of the playoff race he will want to play Its the same type of injury Bo Jackson had - horrible for guys build with a lot of muscle and speed.... Love his heart, but what made him special isn't available to him and that is frustrating for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 @MikeGarafolo: Rex Ryan saying Percy Harvin's issue was "personal" + he doesn't know his location surely by design. Drawing line btwn inj absence/retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 because what is a 53rd guy thats not dressing on sunday and signed mid october going to do to help short term anyway? the gap between percy and a street WR is HUGE. We are paying him the $6m either way, so its not even worth mentioning. Because a 53rd guy might actually have the drive and desire to play and to play hard. And what they may do in the short term is help our sorry special teams. If its not worth mentioning than why did you bring it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Well...Figures...Does it not? Just our luck...Have to say I was really encouraged with the Watkins, Woods, Harvin top 3...Now it's Woods, Hogan, and maybe Easley this weekend? Or Denarious Moore? Good grief this Franchise is so snake-bit...It would actually be funny if it was not so sad...We obviously angered the Football Gods at some point years ago...And they don't seen to be the forgiving type... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Because a 53rd guy might actually have the drive and desire to play and to play hard. And what they may do in the short term is help our sorry special teams. If its not worth mentioning than why did you bring it up? i mentioned the money because you were touting it as something we are wasting keeping him around. hes getting $6m either way- its a sunk cost. it has no place in the debate of what to do with him now, beyond showing that the bills think hes an explosive player if healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Its the same type of injury Bo Jackson had - horrible for guys build with a lot of muscle and speed.... Love his heart, but what made him special isn't available to him and that is frustrating for sure...Say what? Bo Jackson completely dislocated his hip. That didn't happen to Harvin, he just has tight hips. Edited October 22, 2015 by VanCity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Yikes Well.....we wont be needing to worry about finding cap room to sign Percy. I still dont feel like we lost anyone in free agency due to to signing Harvin BUT we sure did pay a hefty price for a player for 5 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 More touches for Woods and Hogan Nice to have known you for a bit Percy....now GTFO my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midland Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I think this is one of those cases, that in inside the organization, know more about what is going on with Percy then the outside world, when the signed D Moore, he can return punts, but has experience as a receiver. I don't think Robert Woods was happy to losing playing time to Percy, time for him to step it up and show he is worth his value (or what he thinks he is worth). I can't say how Percy has been inside the locker room, however I don't think he has been a big problem for the organization, hip injuries happen in this league every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Say what? Bo Jackson completely dislocated his hip. That didn't happen to Harvin, he just has tight hips. We have no idea what the extent of his injury is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 More touches for Woods and Hogan Nice to have known you for a bit Percy....now GTFO my team. interesting attitude to bring to the table here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 http://grantland.com/the-triangle/tell-your-grandkids-about-the-2015-buffalo-bills/ So how's that "let's get a bunch of small quick guys and make them try to cover all of them" theory going? Tyrod, McCoy, Sammy, Percy ... all missing significant time. This is often spun by Bills fans as "why to bad things always happen to the Bills? Look at our injury list." The truth is: build your offense around small, quick guys who are higher than average injury risks, don't act shocked when they get injured. (I know, McCoy has been sturdy, put he's an aging back who depends on quickness) Watkins isn't small. He's 2 inches taller and almost THIRTY pounds heavier than Antonio Brown. Kelvin Benjamin is huge. And out for the season. Football players get hurt. There isn't a QB in the league who takes the horse collar Taylor took and doesn't get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 It sure seems as if he isn't. @thadbrown7 Thad Brown Retweeted Vic Carucci Percy told me 3 wks ago, he was in good place at work, at home. Think more to it than just hip injury. #Bills That's what happens when you get set up in Cheektowaga. Easy living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 So, if Harvin retires, Woods is a FA. Do we draft a WR in RD 1 or 2 next year. Any studs in the college ranks along the lines of Amari Cooper, etc.? I think this is one of those cases, that in inside the organization, know more about what is going on with Percy then the outside world, when the signed D Moore, he can return punts, but has experience as a receiver. I don't think Robert Woods was happy to losing playing time to Percy, time for him to step it up and show he is worth his value (or what he thinks he is worth). I can't say how Percy has been inside the locker room, however I don't think he has been a big problem for the organization, hip injuries happen in this league every week. this definitely puts the Moore signing into greater perspective. And you are correct, time for Woods to step up. If not, he should be less expensive to resign. Yikes Well.....we wont be needing to worry about finding cap room to sign Percy. I still dont feel like we lost anyone in free agency due to to signing Harvin BUT we sure did pay a hefty price for a player for 5 games we did pay, but it didn't hurt us. It was a high risk/high reward signing. Who knows, perhaps if he gets healthy he comes back at the end of the season and tears it up for a couple of weeks en route to a SB! (very wishful thinking, I know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Time to trade for Steve Smith Sr. That's the worst idea ever. Waste a draft pick and trade for a WR that would contribute for half a season? Yikes Well.....we wont be needing to worry about finding cap room to sign Percy. I still dont feel like we lost anyone in free agency due to to signing Harvin BUT we sure did pay a hefty price for a player for 5 games We got rid of some great young talent at the WR spot that we could've groomed and developed. This was such a waste IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 So, if Harvin retires, Woods is a FA. Do we draft a WR in RD 1 or 2 next year. Any studs in the college ranks along the lines of Amari Cooper, etc.? this definitely puts the Moore signing into greater perspective. And you are correct, time for Woods to step up. If not, he should be less expensive to resign. we did pay, but it didn't hurt us. It was a high risk/high reward signing. Who knows, perhaps if he gets healthy he comes back at the end of the season and tears it up for a couple of weeks en route to a SB! (very wishful thinking, I know) Corey Coleman from Baylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 That's the worst idea ever. Waste a draft pick and trade for a WR that would contribute for half a season? We got rid of some great young talent at the WR spot that we could've groomed and developed. This was such a waste IMO. Versus wasting a season? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Steve Smith rental all day. The way he's producing it's not insane to think he doesn't have one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Based upon which source is saying what... It sounds like the Bills are aware that he is considering retirement and harvin's agent is trying to squash that from getting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Damn. I mean, you gotta do what's best for your body, especially with how so many players struggle with their health long term. But damn. He's a hell of a player when healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Steve Smith rental all day. The way he's producing it's not insane to think he doesn't have one more year. No offense but if they trade him it will be to a SB contender CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 No offense but if they trade him it will be to a SB contender CBF Maybe he goes back to Carolina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Based upon which source is saying what... It sounds like the Bills are aware that he is considering retirement and harvin's agent is trying to squash that from getting out. If it's true, why would the agent want to squash it? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 No offense but if they trade him it will be to a SB contender CBF i didnt realize the ravens had that agenda! I would think they want to trade him to the highest bidder (which would be anyone that thinks hed help their shot at the playoffs right now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 i didnt realize the ravens had that agenda! I would think they want to trade him to the highest bidder (which would be anyone that thinks hed help their shot at the playoffs right now) I know but maybe out of respect for him they would trade him to a contender since this is his last year http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/21/if-steve-smith-is-still-retiring-ravens-should-trade-him-to-a-contender/ CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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