BornNRaised71 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 It eats at my core to watch the Patriots execute their offense with such precision against the Bills. Despite the hate, I have to give them their props. The last two games that mattered, “the not aging fast enough” Brady, got rid of the ball in under 2 seconds on passing plays and just carved us up for 7 to 10 yards each play. My thought on a strategy is to have set plays where the guys in the back end of the D just tackle/hold every WR, TE and RB that goes out for a pass and then the D line sacks Brady. Bills would give up 5 yards for the ‘holding’ and an automatic first down but you smack Tommy boy a bunch of times and get their receivers wondering what is going on. The idea is to disrupt their timing and get them off their game. They would employ this scheme for the first couple Patriots drives of the game, before they cross the 50 yard line and would do this every pass play. Patriots are going to get their yards anyway so why not give them the yards and smack him around!! After that they could sprinkle this strategy in randomly to keep them guessing and hopefully off on the timing patterns all game. You could disguise it so the D-call is either the mugging strategy, the fake mugging strategy or a blitz with legal coverage. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Or, we could place snipers up in the lights.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Or, we could place snipers up in the lights.... Reserve that strategy for next home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJuice Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 This is a fantastic idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) That Pats** offense relies on timing as Brady is throwing to a spot more than throwing to a receiver. It assumes the DBs are always chasing the receivers. What you do is "flip the script" and ignore the receivers and cover the spots instead. Brady either throws picks or hesitates his throws, giving our D-line a little more time to sack him. Edited October 1, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Also, laser pointers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Also, laser pointers I think you can get in trouble for those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 This is a crazy idea, but have to give you props for being creative. The clever part is the only 5 yd penalty for holding vs 15 for unsportsmanlike contact if you try to take shots at the QB close to the whistle or after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I think you can get in trouble for those. but Rex said the fans were part of the defense. I'm just doing my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 but Rex said the fans were part of the defense. I'm just doing my part. Well, then it's more than your part, it's your OBLIGATION! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Sewell Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I'm OK with an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and a cart coming out to take Brady away. I've been hoping for that every time they run the score up on the Bills. If only someone had the pride to send him screaming to the locker room... But yeah, the holding WRs thing is kinda cool, too, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) I still think the best way is to lure him into throws that you are prepared to jump on. If he consistently finds and throws to the mismatch, that means the defense should generally know who he will be throwing to. They also know (if the Pats continue the quick throw approach) that he will throw it quickly. Having guys cheat after the snap to the areas that the mismatched receiver could get to, might help to slow down the Pats, and would at least make Brady hesitate to throw quickly to the mismatch. There was no need to worry about the run in the last game, so having some safeties out there instead of LB's might help too. Does anyone know if Brady has more success against 3-4 fronts, or 4-3? Edited October 1, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Truth Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Love the idea and the outside the box thinking. I'm for it! Brady might counter by just getting rid of the ball; throwing it at someone's feet or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandiaEast Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Esp on a first down from their own 20 or 30... its not all that crazy. Giving up five yards for a potential sack that shakes up brady... kinda worth it... I feel like its something bellicheck would think of. Give up a 5 yard first down on first down and get a QB hit out of it... not a bad trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 It eats at my core to watch the Patriots execute their offense with such precision against the Bills. Despite the hate, I have to give them their props. The last two games that mattered, “the not aging fast enough” Brady, got rid of the ball in under 2 seconds on passing plays and just carved us up for 7 to 10 yards each play. My thought on a strategy is to have set plays where the guys in the back end of the D just tackle/hold every WR, TE and RB that goes out for a pass and then the D line sacks Brady. Bills would give up 5 yards for the ‘holding’ and an automatic first down but you smack Tommy boy a bunch of times and get their receivers wondering what is going on. The idea is to disrupt their timing and get them off their game. They would employ this scheme for the first couple Patriots drives of the game, before they cross the 50 yard line and would do this every pass play. Patriots are going to get their yards anyway so why not give them the yards and smack him around!! After that they could sprinkle this strategy in randomly to keep them guessing and hopefully off on the timing patterns all game. You could disguise it so the D-call is either the mugging strategy, the fake mugging strategy or a blitz with legal coverage. Thoughts? I like this idea! It will work at least once. Belichick will probably love it, too. He will adopt it, and perfect it's use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 It's kind of an evil idea, exactly the kind that Belichick would devise. It's so crazy it just might work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I don't think it would result in many more penalties than we had against them the last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I don't think it would result in many more penalties than we had against them the last time. And less penalty yardage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I think you can get in trouble for those. Lmfao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 They won't call holding every play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 If rather just beat them straight up. It would look just as bad as Deflatgate using cheap tactics. Teams with lesser talent than the Bills have on the roster have beaten them. We can beat them next time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) They won't call holding every play If all 11 of our guys are holding (or slamming Brady), they might run out of flags and hats to throw. What's next? Shoes? Now, if the Pats* tried this scheme, we'd call that.... just another play. Edited October 1, 2015 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Wouldn't work, guys. Brady would just throw to the held WR anyway and immediately complain if a flag wasn't thrown. No way he'd hold the ball just because his WRs were being mugged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradumbass Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 That Pats** offense relies on timing as Brady is throwing to a spot more than throwing to a receiver. It assumes the DBs are always chasing the receivers. What you do is "flip the script" and ignore the receivers and cover the spots instead. Brady either throws picks or hesitates his throws, giving our D-line a little more time to sack him. I actually agree with this a lot Study the timing routes and try and cross DB's in front of the spot Brady is going to I would also go dime package from the onset and just basically dare them to run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I would have Robey rush him on every pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Brady needs to get roughed up......keep hitting him even if its late and we take penalties...... I dont want to see any take his knees or anything......just on the ground a lot and crying like a littlle biotch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 but Rex said the fans were part of the defense. I'm just doing my part. I wish he has said the fans were part of the offense - then we would know it is okay for us to do things like pull fire alarms in their hotel even though we may get penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Wake up, it's morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) That Pats** offense relies on timing as Brady is throwing to a spot more than throwing to a receiver. It assumes the DBs are always chasing the receivers. What you do is "flip the script" and ignore the receivers and cover the spots instead. Brady either throws picks or hesitates his throws, giving our D-line a little more time to sack him. Yeah, what a brilliant idea, what "spots" would those be, on every play? I can't believe that no coaches have thought of that. Seriously? Edited October 1, 2015 by TaskersGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 You have to disrupt the routes and timing only way to do that is put your defenders right in the faces of the receivers at the snap. tO disrupt his reads ya might play folks off and have them rich to the receiver and chuck them. Having all 11 guys near the LOS and bringing different folks might disrupt his pre snap reads along with a lot of movement just like ya would with your receivers to disrupt the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Or, we could place snipers up in the lights.... And your IP address has been logged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 How to cover Edelman would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 just beat the Giants. worry about the Pats in December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 This is a crazy idea, but have to give you props for being creative. The clever part is the only 5 yd penalty for holding vs 15 for unsportsmanlike contact if you try to take shots at the QB close to the whistle or after Reminds me of "Hack a Shaq" that a lot of NBA teams employed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Reminds me of "Hack a Shaq" that a lot of NBA teams employed we'll call it "Hack a Hack" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The whole week before the next game we should have anyone on D that could cover a WR practicing pass blocking with the OL, working on playing the pass on D like you are an OT. Hand placement, footwork, hip rotation should be at the top of the list. Even the occasional "our legs got tangled and we fell down" drill, lol. Let Gilmore and AW learn how slow Mario down, and it may show them how to disrupt Gronk's routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 just beat the Giants. worry about the Pats in December on MNF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centerline Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I think Chan Gailey had 1 answer. Have the Bill's Offensive Line get their hands up. Tom Brady is 6'4", Edelman is 5'10" and Amandola is 5'11" which may be on the high side. With Brady's throwing motion, he has to throw down, through the Off. Line. I don't know how Manny Lawson would stack up against Gronk in coverage, but I would mix the coverage up a lot. Keep them guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I think Chan Gailey had 1 answer. Have the Bill's Offensive Line get their hands up. Tom Brady is 6'4", Edelman is 5'10" and Amandola is 5'11" which may be on the high side. With Brady's throwing motion, he has to throw down, through the Off. Line. I don't know how Manny Lawson would stack up against Gronk in coverage, but I would mix the coverage up a lot. Keep them guessing. I like this. It's not as if Brady is a real threat to take off and run. If they're split 4 or 5 wide with no RB, unless one of our DT's bursts through the line untouched, get a bead on Brady and everyone get your hands up. At the worst it will obscure his field vision some and possibly force him to adjust his trajectories and throwing lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 just beat the Giants. worry about the Pats in December Since we play them in November that makes lots of sense .... I think Chan Gailey had 1 answer. Have the Bill's Offensive Line get their hands up. Tom Brady is 6'4", Edelman is 5'10" and Amandola is 5'11" which may be on the high side. With Brady's throwing motion, he has to throw down, through the Off. Line. I don't know how Manny Lawson would stack up against Gronk in coverage, but I would mix the coverage up a lot. Keep them guessing. Chan Gailey did not coach defense; I think you meant to say Chan Gailey's DC. I would have Robey rush him on every pass Robey and Rambo from opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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