MarkAF43 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The crusade is you, sweetheart. Back off. You troll my every post with the same drivel. Either contribute constructively or I report you. Capice? Ohhhhhhh I'm scared. Please don't report me! Oh no. Face it. The fact is you absolutely cannot stand ANYONE who differs in their opinion of what happened. Go ahead and report me. I haven't violated any of the TOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Wait, did Fred really say that? Edited September 2, 2015 by mastershake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ohhhhhhh I'm scared. Please don't report me! Oh no. Face it. The fact is you absolutely cannot stand ANYONE who differs in their opinion of what happened. Go ahead and report me. I haven't violated any of the TOS. Actually, honey, we can let the mods decide. You are obsessed in a creepy way with me because you can't stand my criticism. You offer nothing, zero, zilch, in any thread I've seen, except personal attacks against me to stop criticizing Whaley. You are by definition a troll. You offer nothing. Zero. Not a single opinion or comment of substance beyond crusading to stop me from criticizing Whaley. Keep it up. Please keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Wait, did Fred really say that?yes, he did. Per Gleason. I'm not surprised. These things typically aren't pretty. The same things were said by Andre Johnson with the Texans and are being said by Eric Weddle with the Chargers (not cut but told he's done after this year). He is bitter. I don't blame him. It sucks. Whaley has a job to do though and he can't always tell him what he wants to know. Time heals all wounds and the NFL is a cold business. Edited September 2, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Actually, honey, we can let the mods decide. You are obsessed in a creepy way with me because you can't stand my criticism. You offer nothing, zero, zilch, in any thread I've seen, except personal attacks against me to stop criticizing Whaley. You are by definition a troll. You offer nothing. Zero. Not a single opinion or comment of substance beyond crusading to stop me from criticizing Whaley. Keep it up. Please keep it up. Actually, I did offer a reply. Whaley didn't make this decision on his own. You called out Whaley and I rebutted it. Apparently reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Another @TBNbucky: More @Fred22Jackson on Bills: "They gave me a shot. Ill always be happy about that, but ... they closed the door on me playing there, too." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Surprising, its so... Un-Freddy like. But with your explaination i guess it makes sense. And im all for a good spirited bout, but i hope these two settle down... Edited September 2, 2015 by mastershake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Actually, I did offer a reply. Whaley didn't make this decision on his own. You called out Whaley and I rebutted it. Apparently reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Way to ignore the substance of what I said again, darling. You crusade to stop me from commenting and then fall back on a baseless comment entirely unrelated to my comment. Consider yourself blocked. Any further obsessions you have with me will go on deaf ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Surprising, its so... Un-Freddy like. But with your explaination i guess it makes sense. And im all for a good spirited debate, but i hope these two settle down... I'm settled. And a good spirited debate I'd be all for. I just don't find it acceptable for someone to crusade against the GM when this move wasn't solely made by him. It was a group decision which had the backing of the owners of the team. So to crusade on and on against Whaley defies logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Surprising, its so... Un-Freddy like. But with your explaination i guess it makes sense. And im all for a good spirited bout, but i hope these two settle down... i think he will be fine eventually. Whaley needs to make the playoffs and he's trying to create the best roster he can... And sign some young studs he drafted. It's a tough balance. Fred will be revered on the WOF and the bitterness will subside in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'm settled. And a good spirited debate I'd be all for. I just don't find it acceptable for someone to crusade against the GM when this move wasn't solely made by him. It was a group decision which had the backing of the owners of the team. So to crusade on and on against Whaley defies logic. Oh no, not you, i was talkin about Fred and Whaley 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 i think he will be fine eventually. Whaley needs to make the playoffs and he's trying to create the best roster he can... And sign some young studs he drafted. It's a tough balance. Fred will be revered on the WOF and the bitterness will subside in time. I can understand people being upset. I'm bothered by it, so is my wife. We're both huge FJ fans. However it was going to more than likely happen this year or next, so I'm trying to make peace with it. There's nothing wrong with being fans of players however first and foremost I'm a Bills fan and when we make the playoffs this year it'll stink that Fred isn't here, but I'll be excited we're back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) i think he will be fine eventually. Whaley needs to make the playoffs and he's trying to create the best roster he can... And sign some young studs he drafted. It's a tough balance. Fred will be revered on the WOF and the bitterness will subside in time. But yeah, that Fred Jackson, hes got a heart the size of 10 men! Who dosent love him? Whaleys probably not even mad at him for sayin this stuff Edited September 2, 2015 by mastershake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Oh no, not you, i was talkin about Fred and Whaley 😂 My mind had gone a little one track there. My bad. I think it will as time passes as someone else said. Right now there's a lot of bitterness and anger. Over time it hopefully will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 All of these emotions over someone nobody here personally knows. It's a !@#$ing game. Fred Jackson is toast and anyone who cared to pay attention to all of his 500 rushing yards last year, as the oldest RB in the NFL, would know that. Yep. We all love him for his heart and his story ... but Christ, we need to win. And the $$$ saved from cutting an unproductive back is going to help us do that. Get over it. It's just a !@#$ing game. And Fred Jackson will be just fine. More importantly, the Bills will be better off in the long run. Fred was the best back on an anemic run game. Even Jacksonville had a best QB. Put it into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 As I have been saying all along, Whaley is a piece of **** wholly and entirely driven by his ego...to the detriment of everything else, including the team. Bucky Gleason @TBNbucky @Fred22Jackson on GM Doug Whaley: "There’s only one person in that organization that I haven’t gotten honesty from, and that was him.” I feareth the golden boy hath finally stepped in it. 24 hours ago, EJ was Buddy Nix pick......now he's Whaley's 3rd string hand-picked franchise QB.......that's the way it works when you make unpopular decisions. McCoy better follow his blocks and fall forward or Whaley is going to hear about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 But yeah, that Fred Jackson, hes got a heart the size of 10 men! Who dosent live him? Whaleys probably not even mad at him for sayin this stuffagreed, Whaley knows it's part of the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 All of these emotions over someone nobody here personally knows. It's a !@#$ing game. Fred Jackson is toast and anyone who cared to pay attention to all of his 500 rushing yards last year, as the oldest RB in the NFL, would know that. Yep. We all love him for his heart and his story ... but Christ, we need to win. And the $$$ saved from cutting an unproductive back is going to help us do that. Get over it. It's just a !@#$ing game. And Fred Jackson will be just fine. More importantly, the Bills will be better off in the long run. Fred was the best back on an anemic run game. Even Jacksonville had a best QB. Put it into perspective. Get back in the Shoutbox the circle has been broken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The crusade is you, sweetheart. Back off. You troll my every post with the same drivel. Either contribute constructively or I report you. Capice? Ohhhhhhh I'm scared. Please don't report me! Oh no. Face it. The fact is you absolutely cannot stand ANYONE who differs in their opinion of what happened. Go ahead and report me. I haven't violated any of the TOS. Y'all quit acting like a couple !@#$s please. One more and your both outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 All of these emotions over someone nobody here personally knows. It's a !@#$ing game. Fred Jackson is toast and anyone who cared to pay attention to all of his 500 rushing yards last year, as the oldest RB in the NFL, would know that. Yep. We all love him for his heart and his story ... but Christ, we need to win. And the $$$ saved from cutting an unproductive back is going to help us do that. Get over it. It's just a !@#$ing game. And Fred Jackson will be just fine. More importantly, the Bills will be better off in the long run. Fred was the best back on an anemic run game. Even Jacksonville had a best QB. Put it into perspective. Then theres this guy, with the heart of stone... Cold, calculated, and cut throat. I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Y'all quit acting like a couple !@#$s please. One more and your both outta here. Yes sir. I'll be more civil. I shouldn't have let him get me all riled up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) All of these emotions over someone nobody here personally knows. It's a !@#$ing game. Fred Jackson is toast and anyone who cared to pay attention to all of his 500 rushing yards last year, as the oldest RB in the NFL, would know that. Yep. We all love him for his heart and his story ... but Christ, we need to win. And the $$$ saved from cutting an unproductive back is going to help us do that. Get over it. It's just a !@#$ing game. And Fred Jackson will be just fine. More importantly, the Bills will be better off in the long run. Fred was the best back on an anemic run game. Even Jacksonville had a best QB. Put it into perspective. I am guilty of watching Karlos in the Panthers game and thinking next year it will be shady/Karlos and getting really excited. Now it's a year sooner. And though Fred is an excellent pass blocker, I think this is somewhat minimized need due to the mobility of the QB going forward. The intangibles need to be replaced but that happens whenever a longtime respected vet leaves, on every team. Eventually, you move on. As I've said, my heart broke when I heard the news but that's the NFL. Edited September 2, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Rex encouraging Aaron Williams to wear the #22 in practice today showed he has class. He was also clearly gritting his teeth to take the company line on letting Fred go, but anyone with the slightest common sense could read between the lines. He did what he had to do on a comparatively smaller issue, and took a stand where he needed to starting Tyrod over Whaley's pet. The sting of Fred not being here is going to way on all fans, but we'll move on just like Fred himself will. Still, a piece of our heart will always have a spot for Fred, and if our season becomes a special one there will be a tiny residue of bitterness that it didn't include our Freddy. Anyway, it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 My mind had gone a little one track there. My bad. I think it will as time passes as someone else said. Right now there's a lot of bitterness and anger. Over time it hopefully will get better. By the way Mark, i was talkin about you and Neg, i just like duality 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Rex encouraging Aaron Williams to wear the #22 in practice today showed he has class. He was also clearly gritting his teeth to take the company line on letting Fred go, but anyone with the slightest common sense could read between the lines. He did what he had to do on a comparatively smaller issue, and took a stand where he needed to starting Tyrod over Whaley's pet. The sting of Fred not being here is going to way on all fans, but we'll move on just like Fred himself will. Still, a piece of our heart will always have a spot for Fred, and if our season becomes a special one there will be a tiny residue of bitterness that it didn't include our Freddy. Anyway, it is what it is. Your conjecture is interesting and we do understand your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Rex encouraging Aaron Williams to wear the #22 in practice today showed he has class. He was also clearly gritting his teeth to take the company line on letting Fred go, but anyone with the slightest common sense could read between the lines. He did what he had to do on a comparatively smaller issue, and took a stand where he needed to starting Tyrod over Whaley's pet. The sting of Fred not being here is going to way on all fans, but we'll move on just like Fred himself will. Still, a piece of our heart will always have a spot for Fred, and if our season becomes a special one there will be a tiny residue of bitterness that it didn't include our Freddy. Anyway, it is what it is. How much does a 2-ton truck way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 How much does a 2-ton truck way? Lol. I am weigh too careless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Lol. I am weigh too careless. Don't beat yourself up to much. Your only human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Don't beat yourself up to much. Your only human. Time to put your big boy pants on. And become a man.It`s just a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Time to put your big boy pants on. And become a man.It`s just a game. Hanh, wha?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Hanh, wha?? Typical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Worth a peek. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/180434-fred-says-whaley-dishonest-with-him/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Look at what you did, Whaley: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Look at what you did, Whaley: i hate this society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Look at what you did, Whaley: I feel ya, kid... I feel ya,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Does anybody remember Bilial Powell and The Bills interest in getting him in March. There was a **** storm over it at that time. Why, here's a tweet from our favorite twat Timmah: https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham/status/574669098237427712?ref_src=twsrc^tfw In retrospect, perhaps they should have cut Fred back then. Good Luck Fred! You gave it your all here and earned the respect of the entire Bills Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Sooo....not signed anywhere yet unless I missed it. Monday September 14 pick up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Crickets - where is Belichik? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Supposably the Cam Chancellor holdout is in the way in Seattle. Another theory is that Fred may have to wait after week 1 since contracts aren't guaranteed after that. Either way, Fred is getting the extra crunchy peanut butter with glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Saw the PS game in Seattle last night. Their depth backs looked pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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