Blokestradamus Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I always feared that this would become acrimonious. I don't blame Marcel for wanting to get his but I didn't want this to get played out through the press. Especially not so close to the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Sigh, just pay the man.. Draft a new LT or something. That's really what it comes down to. I think we all know this is not a "Terry is cheap" deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I love MD but I have a sinking feeling that he could turn into a Haynesworth once he gets his contract extension. Hope I'm wrong if he re-signs with Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I am not surprised this is getting tetchy... Marcel kinda strikes me as that sort. Whaley may not negotiate through the media but Dareus' side have decided they are going to. This is a player I think the Bills have to find a way to keep, once Kyle and Mario leave the stage this guy has to become our leader of the defense, he is already arguably its best player. I have always felt like keeping Dareus will cost us someone though.... and that seems pretty much certain now. I am not surprised this is getting tetchy... Marcel kinda strikes me as that sort. Whaley may not negotiate through the media but Dareus' side have decided they are going to. This is a player I think the Bills have to find a way to keep, once Kyle and Mario leave the stage this guy has to become our leader of the defense, he is already arguably its best player. I have always felt like keeping Dareus will cost us someone though.... and that seems pretty much certain now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Just his agent talking. Doubtful there are direct talks between Dareus and the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Part if me wants to see what kind of havoc a pissed-off MD playing for a big contract would wreak on opposing offenses this year. Can always franchise him next year, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Simple business posturing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Just his agent talking. Doubtful there are direct talks between Dareus and the Bills. What are you talking about, this came straight from the Mouth of Dareus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Have to pay the guy, he's one of the elite interior linemen. Maybe give him more money, but less guaranteed with some incentives because he's shown in the past some bad characteristics after he gets paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Have to pay the guy, he's one of the elite interior linemen. Maybe give him more money, but less guaranteed with some incentives because he's shown in the past some bad characteristics after he gets paid. At what cost though? It is not that cut and dry. Continuing to increase Marcels contract could cost you Gilmore, Glenn and who knows what else. Unless they plan on cutting Kyle Williams and re-structuring Mario. You are planning on having nearly 55MM tied up on the D-line. Mario - 19MM Kyle - 8MM Hughes - 7.5MM Dareus - 19MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 He shouldn't be negotiating through the media. But pay the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I will be very surprised if the Bills can re-sign Dareus, Glenn and Gilmore and still stay under the salary cap. Which one could be traded for a 1st rd pick or more to replace with a affordable player ? The only time a good player has trade value is if he has at least 1 year left on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 What a douche. I'm okay with him pushing for more money, but claiming $15m/year is equivalent to saying guys like him are "a dime a dozen" is just dumb. He's a great player, but at ~$20m/yr the value he brings is largely offset by the sacrifices you have to make to keep him. Of course, I'm sure he could demand $30m/year and mathematically challenged morons would still chime in with the mind numbing "pay da man" posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 At what cost though? It is not that cut and dry. Continuing to increase Marcels contract could cost you Gilmore, Glenn and who knows what else. Unless they plan on cutting Kyle Williams and re-structuring Mario. You are planning on having nearly 55MM tied up on the D-line. Mario - 19MM Kyle - 8MM Hughes - 7.5MM Dareus - 19MM Signing Marcell will most likely cost us Mario rather than Bradham and Gilmore, but I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 What are you talking about, this came straight from the Mouth of Dareus? His agent telling him what to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 $90 mil not fair? Give me a break let him walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 you can save a bunch of money by using the franchise tag of $10 mil in 2016 & $12 mil in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I will be very surprised if the Bills can re-sign Dareus, Glenn and Gilmore and still stay under the salary cap. Which one could be traded for a 1st rd pick or more to replace with a affordable player ? The only time a good player has trade value is if he has at least 1 year left on his contract. I got roasted for even suggesting trading gilmore in the past but that seems to be the easiest way to get us some cap relief. He will have the most trade value with one more year left on his deal and if he has a great year could we get a first for him? We could tag glenn and then use two firsts to load up on talent and replace gilmore and another skill position. Or get a qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 At what cost though? It is not that cut and dry. Continuing to increase Marcels contract could cost you Gilmore, Glenn and who knows what else. Unless they plan on cutting Kyle Williams and re-structuring Mario. You are planning on having nearly 55MM tied up on the D-line. Mario - 19MM Kyle - 8MM Hughes - 7.5MM Dareus - 19MM Fine by me. We won't be spending big elsewhere anytime soon *shrugs* Kyle is probably a year or two from retirement (I'd assume?). Mario could maybe be restructured? But also the cap is basically shooting upwards every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 you can save a bunch of money by using the franchise tag of $10 mil in 2016 & $12 mil in 2017.the Bills do have this leverage. But the Lions didn't use it with Suh because of how it would kill their cap. Would we be in the same boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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