3rdand12 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I can see the giving Reich the title of Associate Head Coach and OC so it is a promotion, and then he is the guy who is in line for the job. He does not deserve a HC job in any way right now. He's never really ran an offense. Reading the reports about Reich is a bit frightening. I love the guy but. too soon. I do like your idea though Kelly! AHC with full OC responsibilities. I would to say again , i am very proud of The Pegulas and 100% on board with this business decision. Boy this is more exciting then i could have imagined already Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Isn't the incentive, the chance to go to a different team of his choosing and a larger contract? That wasn't enough apparently to wrestle him from Cleveland. The uncertainty of ownership made it difficult. I was saying that there should have been offset language but I guess then he would have just sat out the year if he didn't love an opportunity. Either way he ended up making the equivalent of $5.5m or $6M a year for the 2 he coached. That's not crazy. I hope that he falls on his face at his next stop. This was a Bobby Petrino move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 That's an interesting question Beerball. I thought that Marrone did a pretty good job even though I hated his offense. Would we have been better or worse with someone else? I have no idea It's a conundrum!!! What is true (isn't it?) is that the one thing Marrone really showed aptitude for hiring DC's. Offensively (his forte) was seriously disappointing. I personally still don't know whether Hackett is/was/will be a good OC. An offensive offensive line, inconsistent QB play, aging RB...not exactly a formula for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Reich as a AHC / OC , mentor for EJ with Rex as HC works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 That wasn't enough apparently to wrestle him from Cleveland. The uncertainty of ownership made it difficult. I was saying that there should have been offset language but I guess then he would have just sat out the year if he didn't love an opportunity. Either way he ended up making the equivalent of $5.5m or $6M a year for the 2 he coached. That's not crazy. I hope that he falls on his face at his next stop. This was a Bobby Petrino move. Not a Marrone fan but can't blame him 1 bit for that clause. There were ownership questions and he was prudent. Can't blame the FO for granting either. Now what does seem weird is that he was playing it off against Cleveland's "stable" ownership. Wasn't that guy about to go to jail? Maybe Cleveland also gave him a clause and Buffalo simply matched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 It's a conundrum!!! What is true (isn't it?) is that the one thing Marrone really showed aptitude for hiring DC's. Offensively (his forte) was seriously disappointing. I personally still don't know whether Hackett is/was/will be a good OC. An offensive offensive line, inconsistent QB play, aging RB...not exactly a formula for success. Totally agree Not a Marrone fan but can't blame him 1 bit for that clause. There were ownership questions and he was prudent. Can't blame the FO for granting either. Now what does seem weird is that he was playing it off against Cleveland's "stable" ownership. Wasn't that guy about to go to jail? Maybe Cleveland also gave him a clause and Buffalo simply matched it. I was thinking the same thing but this must have been right before Haslem got in trouble. At least I hope that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 So the "Factory of Sadness" and the Bills were fighting over Marrone a couple years ago. That says it all for these two franchises who have stumbled so badly for so many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'd rather see Pegs lure Cowher or Dungy out of retirement with a $10 million/year contract offer, but - realistically - I'd be okay with Reich. If he kept the defensive coaching staff in place and hired some good offensive coaches, he'd do fine. Thats a slap to Schwartz, careful now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 OK, for as long as Springsteen has been touring, he doesn't need to tell the band. That's not terribly unusual for some jazz groups, for example. Especially for the drummer who doesn't even need to worry about what key it's in! Oh yeah, the thread. Bye Marrone. I never had a good feeling about your approach to the team. I strongly suspected that the high school offense was your doing. How on earth can you take 5 professional offensive lineman and make them into such a bad line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Thats a slap to Schwartz, careful now How many people were lamenting Pettine's departure last off season? How did the defense do under Schwartzy? With the talent assembled a decent DC will be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) OK, for as long as Springsteen has been touring, he doesn't need to tell the band. That's not terribly unusual for some jazz groups, for example. Especially for the drummer who doesn't even need to worry about what key it's in! Oh yeah, the thread. Bye Marrone. I never had a good feeling about your approach to the team. I strongly suspected that the high school offense was your doing. How on earth can you take 5 professional offensive lineman and make them into such a bad line? don't you think it might help the drummer to know if the songs in 3/4 or 4/4? springsteen does so many waltzes don't you know? anywho, i'm firmly in the good riddance camp. Edited January 1, 2015 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 How many people were lamenting Pettine's departure last off season? How did the defense do under Schwartzy? With the talent assembled a decent DC will be successful. I am suggesting that keeping Jim Schwartz as D coordinator and promoting a very young -ish(exp) Reich to a HC position is not good etiquette at all.Moving Reich to AHC and O coordinator is fine by me. I have already read that Jim S has an interest. But whether that founded or not i could only guess. I would love to retain Schwartz another year . This part of the equation should be interesting Reich as a AHC / OC , mentor for EJ with Rex as HC works for me. and keep Jim S. Hell yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 So the "Factory of Sadness" and the Bills were fighting over Marrone a couple years ago. That says it all for these two franchises who have stumbled so badly for so many years. thats a great point...and we lost again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Not a Marrone fan but can't blame him 1 bit for that clause. There were ownership questions and he was prudent. Can't blame the FO for granting either. Now what does seem weird is that he was playing it off against Cleveland's "stable" ownership. Wasn't that guy about to go to jail? Maybe Cleveland also gave him a clause and Buffalo simply matched it. Marrone was never a contender to become Cleveland's HC, but he certainly may have used them as leverage. As for Haslam, the investigation concerning PFJ stealing from their customers is ongoing. The deal that was cut was only to protect the company, not individuals. As of now the Feds have worked their way up the company ladder to Haslam's direct report, President Mark Hazelwood, who recieved a target letter a few months ago. The opt out clause when ownership changes is standard practice, I believe, so that's just part of the game. No hard feelings about its existence here. Marrone reminds me of a slew of other opportunistic coaches out there, though. Rich Rodriguez, Butch Davis, etc. Huge egos and zero loyalty to anything except the almighty dollar. They tell people What they want to hear and say a lot of the right things, but they lie and are happy to bounce around to the biggest check they can find. Then they bail the minute there is another dollar to be had. F Marrone, but the Bills should be better off without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Marrone is obviously a genius. He purposely passed on Geno Smith so the Jets could get him, knowing he'd be there in 3 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I would guess the Offense wont miss him one lick not Morris and Nathaniel either. If i were them i would be pretty excited and the defense doesnt need him anyways. But the continuity card with defense should be carefully overseen IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Understood, but he wasn't fired. HE QUIT! What "many wanted" is irrelevant. How much he gets paid to go away is irrelevant. It doesn't effect the team or the decision for a new coach in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The best thing about yesterday to me is that it sure does appear Russ Brandon is truly out of the loop now. We went from: Russ saying no eminent changes after the Pats game then Marrone leaving with the statement issued by Pegula and no Russ to be seen or heard anywhere. signs it may be a great year to be a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 He had a lot of defenders here but I think he goes down as one of our most hated eventually Apart from a few factions on this board, I do not detect a mass hate of Marrone. As I have stated earlier, I do not understand the hate at all. It is well and fine to question his decisions and his gameday calls, but he did nothing to my knowledge that justifies a hate of the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 On the Jets forum poll , 66% would like Marrone as HC so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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