Kirby Jackson Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 What are your thoughts on this rumor? http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24906661/john-harbaugh-sean-payton-doug-marrone-jason-garrett-on-michigans-radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 That Marones agent is really good and got this rumor out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 WHY? year 2 was an improvement in all but the QB playing behind center the past 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Marrone deserves some respect around here. Don't understand Buffalo fans and media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 WHY? year 2 was an improvement in all but the QB playing behind center the past 3 months Well, they are offering Harbaugh $8M a year. Marrone currently makes $3.5M. If Michigan offers him $6M it's an easy decision for him IMO. He would almost double his salary and take a more prestigious job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Well, they are offering Harbaugh $8M a year. Marrone currently makes $3.5M. If Michigan offers him $6M it's an easy decision for him IMO. He would almost double his salary and take a more prestigious job.  Michigan job is not what it used to be Kirby...every job in the SEC just about better than that one. Students not showing up at games, cold weather, hard academics....plus every team on TV now, not like it was 25 years ago when you only saw 3 games a week and Michigam always seemed to be on  And i am not buying the Michigan job is more prestigious than any NFL job. Edited December 21, 2014 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 i've heard differing opinions (rumors) Â Report of Michigan offer to Harbaugh is disputed ... Â Reports of $49M Michigan offer to Harbaugh may be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Let Marrone and Hackett go. They have 0% to do with our record. It's all defense and personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 No way he leaves. Marrone has a big ego. He won't leave until the Bills are a consistent playoff team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Let Marrone and Hackett go. They have 0% to do with our record. It's all defense and personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Let Marrone and Hackett go. They have 0% to do with our record. It's all defense and personnel Who hired the defensive staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014   Michigan job is not what it used to be Kirby...every job in the SEC just about better than that one. Students not showing up at games, cold weather, hard academics....plus every team on TV now, not like it was 25 years ago when you only saw 3 games a week and Michigam always seemed to be on  And i am not buying the Michigan job is more prestigious then any NFL job.  Now, I disagree that it isn't more prestigious (and I love the Bills & hate Michigan). A big part of what makes those jobs is tradition & alumni money. Is ND any good? Texas? Those are still considered way better jobs than somewhere like Ole Miss even though Ole Miss would pound those teams (when healthy). Here is a list of the 10 best coaching jobs in football as of 2 years ago. http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=8733842&src=desktop While I agree that Michigan isn't what it used to be (and may never be). The job clearly still has appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Let Marrone and Hackett go. They have 0% to do with our record. It's all defense and personnel He hires strong DC's. That is very big. Â Offense doesn't have a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014   Michigan job is not what it used to be Kirby...every job in the SEC just about better than that one. Students not showing up at games, cold weather, hard academics....plus every team on TV now, not like it was 25 years ago when you only saw 3 games a week and Michigam always seemed to be on  And i am not buying the Michigan job is more prestigious then any NFL job.  Now, Depends on how you view prestige- NFL is certainly a higher level but a winning Michigan program fills a larger stadium, probably has a similar (if not larger) national base and gives him more control (something I think we can all agree he enjoys). And might pay him double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Marrone deserves some respect around here. Don't understand Buffalo fans and media. Boy, you said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Let Marrone and Hackett go. They have 0% to do with our record. It's all defense and personnel  Agreed. There is by far more talent on this roster than at anytime in the past 15 years.  Marrone's most critical decision was hiring Hackett and that has been an abysmal failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Let Marrone and Hackett go. They have 0% to do with our record. It's all defense and personnel Right. Players don't need coaches. Brilliant observation, Knute Rockne. Â Here's an idea. Let's fire all the coaches and use the extra money to trade for Cutler. Super Bowl, here we come. Edited December 21, 2014 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Please!!!! Take the Job Doug!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I disagree that it isn't more prestigious (and I love the Bills & hate Michigan). A big part of what makes those jobs is tradition & alumni money. Is ND any good? Texas? Those are still considered way better jobs than somewhere like Ole Miss even though Ole Miss would pound those teams (when healthy). Here is a list of the 10 best coaching jobs in football as of 2 years ago. http://m.espn.go.com...842&src=desktop  While I agree that Michigan isn't what it used to be (and may never be). The job clearly still has appeal.  I agree has its appeal, but just seems to me not as big as it once was. I may be wrong, but think ND even has fallen a bit for younger guys. Same deal as Michigan...hard academics, cold weather, etc. Again, not saying its a bad job, but for instance 20 years ago Miles jumping at the chance to go from LSU to Michigan....never happen now. Depends on how you view prestige- NFL is certainly a higher level but a winning Michigan program fills a larger stadium, probably has a similar (if not larger) national base and gives him more control (something I think we can all agree he enjoys). And might pay him double.  Now that we can all agree on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 M is smart to look into him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I bet there's a clause in the offer that states he can't hire Hackettt as his OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited)   I agree has its appeal, but just seems to me not as big as it once was. I may be wrong, but think ND even has fallen a bit for younger guys. Same deal as Michigan...hard academics, cold weather, etc. Again, not saying its a bad job, but for instance 20 years ago Miles jumping at the chance to go from LSU to Michigan....never happen now.   Now that we can all agree on I definitely agree that their program isn't what it used to be. They have the alumni money to bounce back (at least somewhat). The population shift hurts those schools but OSU has been able to recruit the southeast and Texas. The right coach may be able to do the same for Michigan (but they better get it right this time). They were stupid to get rid of Rich Rod. I could see them easily being at a level like Wisconsin has been for the last decade. I wouldn't be surprised if they were back competing for the Rose Bowl & the occasional playoff spot. They can be a fringe top 10-15 team perenially. Edited December 21, 2014 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Marrone deserves some respect around here. Don't understand Buffalo fans and media. Â as fans we don't understand how to react to a winner, so we do what we always do. After so many seasons of looking to the draft in October many of our brains are trained that way. Like our reaction to oh no we don't have our first round pick !! Our selections just keeping it in the 2000's CJ Spiller, Eric Wood, Maybin, McKelvin, McCargo,Whitner, Erik Flowers, JP, McGahee, Mike Williams....and this year I don't get to add to it !!??? Â we will learn because were gonna be forced to ..Marrone knows what he's doing and how to build a winner (even minus an actual qb) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Michigan job is not what it used to be Kirby...every job in the SEC just about better than that one. Students not showing up at games, cold weather, hard academics....plus every team on TV now, not like it was 25 years ago when you only saw 3 games a week and Michigam always seemed to be on  And i am not buying the Michigan job is more prestigious than any NFL job.  Michigan isn't a more prestigious job than Oakland or Jacksonville or Tampa... or dare I say Buffalo? Sorry but with the amount of publicity that NCAAF gets, the money flowing into Michigan (I saw they are among the top revenue generating athletic departments and one of the few that actually makes money!), and the storied history, that job outranks these bottom dwelling NFL gigs. NFL owners have zero patience (coaches being fired after one and two seasons) and being competitive is more about talent, and especially at the NFL level, having a god QB. In college, if you're a good recruiter at an excellent, big, historic program (like Michigan) and can coach em up, you're good for a long time. Plus, you can build a winner quickly because it's perpetual free agency with nothing to offer other than, what is it, 80 scholarships that the other colleges offer?  The days of the NFL being the pinnacle of coaching are over. College football is every bit as much a billion dollar enterprise as the NFL and as someone who rarely if ever watches it, I can name 5 college coaches at major, elite, prestigious programs and I honestly don't know the names of 5 NFL coaches...Oakland, Jacksonville, Houston, Detroit, Minnesota. And we played four of these teams!  If I were Marrone, and I was offer the Michigan job, even with a slight pay raise, I'd take it in one second. He'll get the time to rebuild, his approach to accountability and responsibly works in college, and I think he's a good (not great) coach/manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiostyle Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 M is smart to look into him  M do anything smart? Couldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Marcellus Wiley said Haurbaugh to Michigan is basically a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Marrone deserves some respect around here. Don't understand Buffalo fans and media. Â You would if you understand that the Bills have missed the playoffs going on 15 years. There absolutely should be no respect given for "the college try," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 My thoughts are, I don't see Marrone leaving and I don't see the bills making him leave. I hope the bills already know what Michigan is telling us here, He's a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 From the outside, here is the perception: Marrone turned Syracuse from a joke to respectable. Marrone turned Buffalo from a joke to respectable. Perception is reality. Â Michigan would be foolish not to have Marrone on their short list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 The Marrone hate is laughable and stupid at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Â Â You would if you understand that the Bills have missed the playoffs going on 15 years. There absolutely should be no respect given for "the college try," That's funny. Doug Marrone has missed the playoffs exactly one time as a head coach in the NFL. I'm sure the list of hall of fame coaches that missed the playoffs their first year is long and distinguisged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 The Marrone hate is laughable and stupid at the same time. Here, let me try this: The Marrone love is laughable and stupid at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berndogg Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Marrone deserves some respect around here. Don't understand Buffalo fans and media. Â Even if you're going to give Marrone credit for the defense because the head coach has his hands in all aspects of the team (I don't) and you're gonna say the offensive futility is more a function of bad qb play than a bad system/bad play calling, how can you defend the botched fourth down calls and clock management every single week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Will Michigan give us a high draft pick for Marrone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Let Marrone and Hackett go. They have 0% to do with our record. It's all defense and personnel It is clueless opinions like this that really bring this site down. Edited December 21, 2014 by jethro_tull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Â Â Even if you're going to give Marrone credit for the defense because the head coach has his hands in all aspects of the team (I don't) and you're gonna say the offensive futility is more a function of bad qb play than a bad system/bad play calling, how can you defend the botched fourth down calls and clock management every single week? Maybe it's the players on offense? I recall people demanding Marrone fire the ST coach last season. A year later our ST is much better. The difference? The players. Maybe that's why it takes 3 years to turn a team around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Â That's funny. Doug Marrone has missed the playoffs exactly one time as a head coach in the NFL. I'm sure the list of hall of fame coaches that missed the playoffs their first year is long and distinguisged. Â True. BUT as a franchise, there is no margin for error. Can't give him 5 years to find out it has been a failure. Then we are going on 20. Â Want us to turn into the Chicago Cubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Â Â True. BUT as a franchise, there is no margin for error. Can't give him 5 years to find out it has been a failure. Then we are going on 20. Â Want us to turn into the Chicago Cubs? Â Who is asking for 5? How about more than 1.75 when we're on our most winning season in 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 wow, that is not the promo i remember. hate to see what mr beepers looks like today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berndogg Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Maybe it's the players on offense? I recall people demanding Marrone fire the ST coach last season. A year later our ST is much better. The difference? The players. Maybe that's why it takes 3 years to turn a team around? 4th down calls? Clock management? Those are things that are definitely the head coach's decision and it's a mathematical fact that he is terrible at them. We also know that he came in as an offensive minded coach and our offense is terrible, that is a statistical fact. Maybe he is doing some great things behind the scenes, but that's all speculative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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