Solomon Grundy Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Have you looked at the QBs available to QB starved teams like Buffalo? Have you considered the fact that this defense cannot maintain its level of play forever? Have you considered that with a QB & some o-line help this is a really good team? What would you like to do to attempt to fix the position? Yes and yes!! I've also considered the fact that he may get injured again. I would like to bring in a Shawn Hill or Matt Moore and let them battle EJ for the job. I still think EJ has the skill set to be a very good QB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I just don't understand all the excitement for an oft injured QB? What has Bradford actually accomplished in the league? I, for one, want no part of Bradford. I'd have to have a defibrillator stationed near me every time he took a sack! The excitement is that he is potentially available, and the fact is much good is still expected of him around the league. Jeff Fisher seems to want him back, that's good enough for me. I think Fisher is an excellent coach, if he thinks Bradford is good enough to start for him, he's good enough to start for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Mixed reports over Buffalo Bills pursuing a trade for Rams QB Sam Bradford [1:58 AM] Some pretty good comments posted after the article. "Even on IR Bradford would be an upgrade for Buffalo." "Trade for his ambulance, too. Dude is made of glass." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Some pretty good comments posted after the article. "Even on IR Bradford would be an upgrade for Buffalo." "Trade for his ambulance, too. Dude is made of glass." based on fact or fiction? and at what cost? $16,580,000 IMO is way too much $$$ for a throwaway from the RAMS.. Yes the RAMS that have done what? not convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Some pretty good comments posted after the article. "Even on IR Bradford would be an upgrade for Buffalo." "Trade for his ambulance, too. Dude is made of glass." they called me Mr. Glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) there's this bit of news on Twitter: Joe Chenelly @jchenelly 6m6 minutes ago I believe #SamBradford could quite possibly, maybe even likely, be waking up this morning for the last time as a member of the #Rams. #NFL He didn't specifically say anything about the Bills but this could be something... Edited March 10, 2015 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) I saw that and didn't immediately think he was referring to a possible Bills acquisition but I could see them trading their 2nd rounder for him. @RossTuckerNFL: Maybe the Bills are trying to trade for Sam Bradford? Clearly not messing around in 2015. Edited March 10, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I saw that and didn't immediately think he was referring to a possible Bills acquisition but I could see them trading their 2nd rounder for him. @RossTuckerNFL: Maybe the Bills are trying to trade for Sam Bradford? Clearly not messing around in 2015. where does that put our cap situation? (Little ninja guy looking around) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 there's this bit of news on Twitter: Joe Chenelly @jchenelly 6m6 minutes ago I believe #SamBradford could quite possibly, maybe even likely, be waking up this morning for the last time as a member of the #Rams. #NFL He didn't specifically say anything about the Bills but this could be something... Here's a follow up@jchenelly: @BillsZubaz I believe he'd be cut rather than traded, so there would be several teams battling it out. Yes, I think the #Bills would play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Here's a follow up @jchenelly: @BillsZubaz I believe he'd be cut rather than traded, so there would be several teams battling it out. Yes, I think the #Bills would play. wow!!! I'd guess the Jets would be in on that, among others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I saw that and didn't immediately think he was referring to a possible Bills acquisition but I could see them trading their 2nd rounder for him. @RossTuckerNFL: Maybe the Bills are trying to trade for Sam Bradford? Clearly not messing around in 2015. If nothing else this guy gets his info from the bills - so it's got some bills slant to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Here's a follow up @jchenelly: @BillsZubaz I believe he'd be cut rather than traded, so there would be several teams battling it out. Yes, I think the #Bills would play. if he is going to be cut I hope we at least kick the tires on a trade and restructured contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Trade a pick for his contract, much less a 2nd rounder? NFW! Kick the tires if he's released? Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Trade a pick for his contract, much less a 2nd rounder? NFW! Kick the tires if he's released? Sure. Trade a late pick of he's in line to be released and renegotiate his deal? Maybe! Sometimes the middle option makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Trade a pick for his contract, much less a 2nd rounder? NFW! Kick the tires if he's released? Sure.why not give up a late pick so you are only bidding against yourself on a contract. You can restructure his contract like we did with shady. As a free agent you have a bidding war. Edited March 10, 2015 by kr632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) If the bills aren't willing to trade at least their remaining 5th rd pick for him to avoid having to compete for him in FA I would be surprised. It's the most important position on the team. Maybe that is where the possibility of EJ getting cut on the 2nd day if FA comes in. Though I still think it makes no sense. IF this happens and they get SB, I would see EJ and SB competing for starter and Cassell as backup. Tuel goes bye bye. Edited March 10, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 He'd need to agree to a restructure before the Bills would trade for him. $16.5M hit in the 2015 season. Last season on his current contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It's a little late in the game to renegotiate a contract. Literally hours. With time needed for not only all parties to read the deal through the league would need to approve it. On an incredibly busy day for that office in terms of contracts coming through. So that won't be happening unless it was in the works already. A team would have to do a handshake deal on a new contract and have room for his current salary cap hit until it got hammered out. I don't see any team giving up much for him without a new contract in place. Huge salary for one year for an oft injured QB doesn't make sense. If the Rams have room (which they do currently) why not wait until the dust settles and there are no QBs options left in the market and then rake a desperate team? Besides, they still need to find a QB if it isn't going to be Bradford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It's a little late in the game to renegotiate a contract. Literally hours. With time needed for not only all parties to read the deal through the league would need to approve it. On an incredibly busy day for that office in terms of contracts coming through. So that won't be happening unless it was in the works already. A team would have to do a handshake deal on a new contract and have room for his current salary cap hit until it got hammered out. I don't see any team giving up much for him without a new contract in place. Huge salary for one year for an oft injured QB doesn't make sense. If the Rams have room (which they do currently) why not wait until the dust settles and there are no QBs options left in the market and then rake a desperate team? Besides, they still need to find a QB if it isn't going to be Bradford. there are rumors of a Foles trade to StL fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I don't get the "restructure" bit. He's in the last year of his contract. What is there to restructure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Just wondering everyone's thoughts on him. Doesn't appear he'll get his job back in St. Louis. Would you like us to bring him in? I would love to see him and a qb we draft battle it out for the job. Worthless. Maybe worth Future considerations at best. Can't stay healthy, has never played up to his potential when healthy. Nothing special... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I don't get the "restructure" bit. He's in the last year of his contract. What is there to restructure?the cap hit basically would eat up the rest of our space as it currently stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 He'd need to agree to a restructure before the Bills would trade for him. $16.5M hit in the 2015 season. Last season on his current contract. $13M. The salary only. The Rams would take the hit for the prorated signing bonus portion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I don't get the "restructure" bit. He's in the last year of his contract. What is there to restructure? His full $16 mil salary would be a cap killer for almost any team. Sign a 4-5 year $20 mil guaranteed deal, with incentives that could go to $100 mil if he's healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It's a little late in the game to renegotiate a contract. Literally hours. With time needed for not only all parties to read the deal through the league would need to approve it. On an incredibly busy day for that office in terms of contracts coming through. So that won't be happening unless it was in the works already. A team would have to do a handshake deal on a new contract and have room for his current salary cap hit until it got hammered out. I don't see any team giving up much for him without a new contract in place. Huge salary for one year for an oft injured QB doesn't make sense. If the Rams have room (which they do currently) why not wait until the dust settles and there are no QBs options left in the market and then rake a desperate team? Besides, they still need to find a QB if it isn't going to be Bradford. if they can draw up contracts for multiple FAs I'm pretty sure one more won't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Bills wont trade for that contract IMO but if he is a FA I expect them to make a play However we can easily be outbid because our focus will be on TE FB and OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 His full $16 mil salary would be a cap killer for almost any team. Sign a 4-5 year $20 mil guaranteed deal, with incentives that could go to $100 mil if he's healthy. I thought If he were traded the new team would only take a cap hit of around $13m (which seems reasonable to me). Is that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Agreed Ddaryl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Bills wont trade for that contract IMO but if he is a FA I expect them to make a play However we can easily be outbid because our focus will be on TE FB and OL why can't we renegotiate his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I thought If he were traded the new team would only take a cap hit of around $13m (which seems reasonable to me). Is that wrong? you're probably pretty close. The Rams would be responsible for whatever his bonus was for this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I thought If he were traded the new team would only take a cap hit of around $13m (which seems reasonable to me). Is that wrong? I used the full cap hit, not his salary. $13 mil is still a lot for any team outside Jags, Jets & Oakland. You want that number down under $10 mill. I am a bit skeptical this gets done, because Whaley hinted that the reason Bills can be active in FA is that they don't have to pay a franchise QB salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 He'd need to agree to a restructure before the Bills would trade for him. $16.5M hit in the 2015 season. Last season on his current contract. Think that is the hit film or St Louis, but $4m of that is dead money. New team on hook for $12m cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Agreed Ddaryl. same question I asked ddaryl why can't we renegotiate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 He'll likely be looking for a new deal averaging what he's schedule to make this year with about half in guaranteed money. No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 He'll likely be looking for a new deal averaging what he's schedule to make this year with about half in guaranteed money. No way.if he's released what do you think he's gonna look for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 if he's released what do you think he's gonna look for? Something like 3 years, $27M, $15M gtd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Something like 3 years, $27M, $15M gtd do you think we would have a better shot at a cheaper contract if we traded for him vs. Him being released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Yes.so why not trade for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 do you think we would have a better shot at a cheaper contract if we traded for him vs. Him being released? IMO, probably not. If I were in his agent's shoes, I'd tell any team that I'm not renegotiating the contract without a raise; no reason to give up a bird in the hand. On the open market, where he's subject to his current-day value, I think we'd have a better shot at a reasonable deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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