What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[Beast]

33 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I mean he was wearing body armor.

 

You get hit with body armor on and you will go down. 

 

Not to mention he surrendered once other weapons showed up.

Edited May 14, 2022 by Beast

[BuffaninSarasota]

My Dad is retired BPD so this really hits home.

[boyst]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

🎯

 

 

You know the person is a piece of ***** when they take any tragedy to stand on a political statement. 

 

Here's the hat bud, wear it with pride. 

[aristocrat]

 

[BuffaninSarasota]

10 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

You know the person is a piece of ***** when they take any tragedy to stand on a political statement. 

 

Here's the hat bud, wear it with pride. 

Disgusting on all levels… the original Tweet and the person who posted the Tweet.

 

cheap, gutter partisan politics in the midst of a local tragedy.

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

Disgusting on all levels… the original Tweet and the person who posted the Tweet.

 

cheap, gutter partisan politics in the midst of a local tragedy.

This is PPP. Folks like him give it the bad name it maintains. 

[Boatdrinks]

15 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

You know the person is a piece of ***** when they take any tragedy to stand on a political statement. 

 

Here's the hat bud, wear it with pride. 

Francis doesn’t understand that criminals don’t follow laws. Also kind of hard to reconcile being “ pro -abortion” and being outraged at a criminal pulling a trigger. 

[Tiberius]

30 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Mild moderate authoritarian leftist? Ya, ok 

 

[Big Blitz]

37 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

 

 

Just a misguided piece of ***t from day 1.

 

 

Oh yea, but this is Tucker Carlson's fault.  

[aristocrat]

13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Mild moderate authoritarian leftist? Ya, ok 

 

That is how the shooter described himself so yes. 

[Buffarukus]

On 4/14/2022 at 4:54 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Wait...seriously...you prefer the 'cower in terror', 'stampede wildly over anyone in your path', and/or wait the 20 minutes for the police or social worker to come and de-escalate in this situation?   Me, I would prefer to be standing next to the off-duty officer who plugged this luantic in the head as he began his reign of terror.   Absent the off duty police officer, I'd prefer to be next to the sensible gun owner who plugged this lunatic in the head as he began his reign of terror.   

 

 

 

 

 

of coarse he would.  victims only know how to be victims. 

[Tiberius]

Just now, aristocrat said:

That is how the shooter described himself so yes. 

Angry over Bernies plan to expand health care failed? 

 

[delirious]

More guns = better. Obviously not from a crime perspective, but from a freedom and anti-authority perspective, and self-preservation perspective.

 

Why does the state get to hold a monopoly on force? I don't need to roll out all of the states throughout history that have abused that monopoly and made aggression towards people legal, just or not. I'd rather deal with the consequences of having guns exist than give it up and have no defence whatsoever against an abusive state.

 

Secondly, crime is always going to exist, and abolition never works. Drugs, sex, porn, abortion, the list goes on. Guns wouldn't be any different.

 

The slippery slope of this is tremendous. Okay, less guns, what's next? No knives? No forks? No tridents? When does this lunacy end? 

 

It's disappointing foolish people throughout history have willingly given up their rights for non-existent promised security. It's a tragic comedy. 

[B-Man]

Please tibs.

 

Show some decency for just once.

 

Quoting Rick Wilson propaganda as if it is some type of actual evidence in this tragedy.

 

Wait and see please.

 

You have learned nothing from your past mistakes.

 

 

[MattM]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

Please tibs.

 

Show some decency for just once.

 

Quoting Rick Wilson propaganda as if it is some type of actual evidence in this tragedy.

 

Wait and see please.

 

You have learned nothing from your past mistakes.

 

 

Watch any of the press conference on this? This was clearly racially motivated. Apparently the guy referenced "the Great Replacement Theory" (one of Tucker's favorites) in his manifesto. He hated immigrants. It's all over the press, and I'm sure even more will come out over time about this racist, rightwing loser.
 

Not shocking, sadly--allow incendiary, dehumanizing rhetoric with no repercussions, and this is the obvious and predictable result.

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

Please tibs.

 

Show some decency for just once.

 

Quoting Rick Wilson propaganda as if it is some type of actual evidence in this tragedy.

 

Wait and see please.

 

You have learned nothing from your past mistakes.

 

 

It was fine 

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, MattM said:

Watch any of the press conference on this? This was clearly racially motivated. Apparently the guy referenced "the Great Replacement Theory" (one of Tucker's favorites) in his manifesto. He hated immigrants. It's all over the press, and I'm sure even more will come out over time about this racist, rightwing loser.
 

Not shocking, sadly--allow incendiary, dehumanizing rhetoric with no repercussions, and this is the obvious and predictable result.

Just another criminal on the scrap heap of societal dregs. Rhetoric didn’t kill anyone though. There will always be criminals and murderers , sadly. Our freedoms mustn’t be diminished due to the wanton acts of a few. They should all be dealt severe punishment regardless of their motivations. Murder is murder. 

[Warcodered]

53 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Just another criminal on the scrap heap of societal dregs. Rhetoric didn’t kill anyone though. There will always be criminals and murderers , sadly. Our freedoms mustn’t be diminished due to the wanton acts of a few. They should all be dealt severe punishment regardless of their motivations. Murder is murder. 

 

[Boatdrinks]

18 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

Over 100 million more in population than 1982 as well. Your cartoon looks like the “ mostly peaceful” blm protest CNN clip.

[Tiberius]

Better regulation of guns is a partial answer. Needs to get done 

[BillStime]

12 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

This is PPP. Folks like him give it the bad name it maintains. 

Oh it looks like I upset the billsfans.com crowd… go back to your safe place if you don’t like being called out for your hypocrisy.

 

cc: @BuffaninSarasota

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

Buffalo supermarket shooter's chilling 180-page manifesto said 'great replacement theory' of whites being outnumbered drove him to kill - and New Zealand mosque shooter Brenton Tarrant was his inspiration

 

I’m sure the Tucker Trump fans are real

proud of his efforts and influence on domestic terrorists.

 

Even Trump’s DOJ labeled white supremacists as one of the country’s greatest domestic terror threats. 
 

Great job 

[BuffaninSarasota]

17 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Oh it looks like I upset the billsfans.com crowd… go back to your safe place if you don’t like being called out for your hypocrisy.

 

cc: @BuffaninSarasota

 

 

 

 

You’re a piece of trash for inserting the “pro-life” Tweet into this tragedy, and you deserve every piece of scorn thrown at you here. You never miss an opportunity to gin things up, don’t you?

 

Your safe space is behind your keyboard, 24/7. 

 

 

[Tiberius]

Just now, BuffaninSarasota said:

You’re a piece of trash for inserting the “pro-life” Tweet into this tragedy, and you deserve every piece of scorn thrown at you here. You never miss an opportunity to gin things up, don’t you?

 

Your safe space is behind your keyboard, 24/7. 

 

 

Well, what does being pro-life mean? It means people can hide behind a moral policy that regulates women's bodies while feeding a death culture that leads to horrible tragedies on our streets. 

 

Nothing makes people more upset than the truth 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

You’re a piece of trash for inserting the “pro-life” Tweet into this tragedy, and you deserve every piece of scorn thrown at you here. You never miss an opportunity to gin things up, don’t you?

 

Your safe space is behind your keyboard, 24/7. 

 

 

 

 

 

[BuffaninSarasota]

8 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Well, what does being pro-life mean? It means people can hide behind a moral policy that regulates women's bodies while feeding a death culture that leads to horrible tragedies on our streets. 

 

Nothing makes people more upset than the truth 

Pro-life can also mean valuing and respecting all life. Not sure if you want to open up a discussion on “death culture” because that goes both ways.

 

you have a nice Sunday Tibs ….

[BillStime]

Hypocrisy and a staggering lack of self awareness in one tweet:

 

 

 

[BillStime]

What timing…

 

 

I wonder what could have caused this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

What timing…

 

 

I wonder what could have caused this?

 

 

 

 

Let's see.

 

Supposed 18 year old former communist when he was 12 (as he allegedly wrote) ......knows no political party or ideology....says he drifted to the right in recent years - hates Jews - is not a Christian....

 

I can't imagine what possibly broke this kid..

 

 

 

 

You tell me with a straight face that if that doesn't happen - your CCP/DNC Operation Remove Orange Man - that this kid does this yesterday. 

 

He had no purpose as he came of age from ages 16 to 18.  

 

These next 5-10 years are going to be a disaster.  

 

 

This kid represents a failure at every level and institution of society - his parents (where are they?), the public schools (where did he go?), and his friends (where are they?)

[Boatdrinks]

2 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

Pro-life can also mean valuing and respecting all life. Not sure if you want to open up a discussion on “death culture” because that goes both ways.

 

you have a nice Sunday Tibs ….

Lies spewed as truth are far more upsetting than actual truth. That’s what makes Libs so frustrating . They twist everything from history to race to Covid to guns. 

[BillStime]

42 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Lies spewed as truth are far more upsetting than actual truth. That’s what makes Libs so frustrating . They twist everything from history to race to Covid to guns. 

Maybe it is because you are on the wrong side of every issue and literally turn yourselves into pretzels trying to square your beliefs with reality.

 

 

[BillStime]

Not a damn thing 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Let's see.

 

Supposed 18 year old former communist when he was 12 (as he allegedly wrote) ......knows no political party or ideology....says he drifted to the right in recent years - hates Jews - is not a Christian....

 

I can't imagine what possibly broke this kid..

 

 

 

 

You tell me with a straight face that if that doesn't happen - your CCP/DNC Operation Remove Orange Man - that this kid does this yesterday. 

 

He had no purpose as he came of age from ages 16 to 18.  

 

These next 5-10 years are going to be a disaster.  

 

 

This kid represents a failure at every level and institution of society - his parents (where are they?), the public schools (where did he go?), and his friends (where are they?)

His parents are probably oblivious, he has no friends and the liberal schools probably think he needs counseling or he’s triggered. He’s actually a homicidal psychopath. 

[B-Man]

No posting on the shooting in a church in California ?

 

Where are those quick to condemn ?

 

One Dead, Multiple Shot, in Laguna Beach Church Shooting 

 

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-15/multiple-people-shot-at-church-in-laguna-woods-o-c-sheriff-says?_amp=true

 

 

What’s different ?

 

 

[Motorin']

15 minutes ago, B-Man said:

No posting on the shooting in a church in California ?

 

Where are those quick to condemn ?

 

One Dead, Multiple Shot, in Laguna Beach Church Shooting 

 

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-15/multiple-people-shot-at-church-in-laguna-woods-o-c-sheriff-says?_amp=true

 

 

What’s different ?

 

 

 

There's something fundamentally different about a mass shooting when it happens in your hometown. At least in the sense that it's more personal. 

 

I think all reasonable people should agree that any mass shooting is horrific and deporable. And no matter the motivation, be it Islamic extremism, white supremacy, black supremacy,  greed, revenge, gang turf war, drug induced psychosis, pro-life extremism, anti-Christian or anti-semetic hate,  we need to focus on the root causes. 

 

There was a lot of love expressed by the people who survived the shooting in Buffalo. One man interviewed on ABC said he actually had a conversation with the shooter the day before at the same location. He could tell something was wrong and he was out of place, and that what he lacked in his life was a fundamental sense of love. He said the man came there to kill people, and what he really needed was someone to love him. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Wacka]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

No posting on the shooting in a church in California ?

 

Where are those quick to condemn ?

 

One Dead, Multiple Shot, in Laguna Beach Church Shooting 

 

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-15/multiple-people-shot-at-church-in-laguna-woods-o-c-sheriff-says?_amp=true

 

 

What’s different ?

 

 

The shooter was a 68 year old Asian-American man from the Las Vegas area and shot people at a church of people of Tiwanese background. Doesn't fit the MSM  usual narrative.

[BillStime]

14 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

You’re a piece of trash for inserting the “pro-life” Tweet into this tragedy, and you deserve every piece of scorn thrown at you here. You never miss an opportunity to gin things up, don’t you?

 

Your safe space is behind your keyboard, 24/7. 

 

 

You want to see trash? 
 

 

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

There's something fundamentally different about a mass shooting when it happens in your hometown. At least in the sense that it's more personal. 

 

I think all reasonable people should agree that any mass shooting is horrific and deporable. And no matter the motivation, be it Islamic extremism, white supremacy, black supremacy,  greed, revenge, gang turf war, drug induced psychosis, pro-life extremism, anti-Christian or anti-semetic hate,  we need to focus on the root causes. 

 

There was a lot of love expressed by the people who survived the shooting in Buffalo. One man interviewed on ABC said he actually had a conversation with the shooter the day before at the same location. He could tell something was wrong and he was out of place, and that what he lacked in his life was a fundamental sense of love. He said the man came there to kill people, and what he really needed was someone to love him. 

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder what was said during that conversation , and how the man could glean such a conclusion from it?  Sadly this tragedy is going to be exploited by the Democrat party. I’ve heard little discussion of the shooting in Milwaukee or California but perhaps they don’t fit so neatly into an agenda for the upcoming elections. Root causes are not too helpful because we aren’t talking about normal people here. We are talking about evil individuals that will kill others to satisfy something in their deranged minds. You’re absolutely correct that reasonable people would find all such killings deplorable. We all feel emotions such as anger , greed etc. As participants in civilized society we don’t act on such feelings by physically harming others. That’s what separates the vast majority of us ( fortunately ) from common criminals. 

[LeviF]

Obligatory reminder that there were decades when you could mail order with zero oversight US military surplus rifles and full cap mags and we didn't have the kinds of problems we do now.

[Chef Jim]

10 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Obligatory reminder that there were decades when you could mail order with zero oversight US military surplus rifles and full cap mags and we didn't have the kinds of problems we do now.

 

Well Trump wasn't around then.  Geez.

 

But seriously we do NOT have a gun problem.  We all know we have a mental health problem.