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1- It’s immoral to blame legal gun owning Americans for the crimes of mentally insane people. (Just like it’s immoral to blame legal immigrants for the immigration issues in this country and for the crimes of illegal imigrants.) 

 

2- It’s ridiculous to believe that even wholesale removal of Guns from the general public will prevent evil men from the commission of evil acts. 

 

3- it’s illogical to argue that the entity that is responsible for the public school’s and public safety which has a huge part in these shootings (from the complete failure in Broward County, to the failure with this guy in El Paso who was reported to police, not to mention the environment in our public schools that has contributed to many of these fanatics - on both sides of the ideological spectrum) needs more control and more freedom to ***** things up. 

 

4- it’s unamerican and contrary to the principles that this country was founded on to argue that safety is a priority over freedom. Would you live under cheap tyranny, or expensive freedom? 

 

5- it is historically and realisitically unbelievable to think that the government seeking to sieze weapons from the 300m+ gun owners in this country wouldn’t result in a shooting war. It is further illogical to believe, or think, that even an 8th of the LEO’s and Military personal in this country would take the side of the politicians. 

 

6- Lastly, it’s wrong, and pure disinformation that the idea of more stringent rules, or control measures, will fix these problems. The only true answer, if there were one (which there isn’t) would be forced removal of guns from the citizenry- see #5 for more on that. 

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6 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

the rest of the world can’t even begin to fathom why these weapons are defended as some kind of autonomy

 

 

And why should we care what the rest of the world thinks ?

1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

To paraphrase Marv: The minute we start doing things to please the rest of the world we'll be sitting with them.

 

^^^  What he said ^^^

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9 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

100% unConstitutional.

 

Can’t be done by law.

 

”Shall not be infringed”

 

Start there. Learn how to Amend the US Constitution.

 

Then, when that’s failed, pound sand.

 

What about "well regulated"?

5 hours ago, westside2 said:

I wonder what percentage of mass shootings are in blue states compared to red states? 

NY, chi, Detroit, Baltimore, Gary Indiana, LA. If you take away these democratic run ***** holes, I wonder how much your crime statistics improve?

 

Probably most of them, because that's where most of the American population is concentrated. 

 

If there are more people, the odds are pretty clear that something will happen more frequently.

 

I imagine the same holds true for speeding tickets. 

5 minutes ago, Gary M said:

 

And why should we care what the rest of the world thinks ?

 

Well in this specific situation, the rest of the developed world doesn't have anywhere close to the same issues with mass shootings as the US has.

 

It would probably be smart to study why people don't shoot up Walmarts, schools, movie theatres, etc in other counties, to understand why it only seems to happen with any frequency in the USA. 

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4 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

What about "well regulated"?

 

Let me preface this by saying I’m not trying to insult you:

 

That’s an argument which appeals to illiteracy.  Sentence structure is essential to understanding the meaning of the written word.

 

Diagram the sentence you’re appealing to please.

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45 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

What about "well regulated"?

 

Oh, boy. We're about to find out how much of what you post here is repeating what you've been blindly told and how much is original thought.

 

38 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Let me preface this by saying I’m not trying to insult you:

 

That’s an argument which appeals to illiteracy.  Sentence structure is essential to understanding the meaning of the written word.

 

Diagram the sentence you’re appealing to please.

 

Who's making the popcorn?

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22 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Oh, boy. We're about to find out how much of what you post here is repeating what you've been blindly told and how much is original thought.

 

 

Who's making the popcorn?

 

Popcorn?  This upcoming shitshow is going to require beer.

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3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

I can see it a mile away.

 

It is racist for the President to condemn other groups that aren't white supremacy.

 

 

11 minutes ago, westside2 said:

I think every white Male in America, should follow the lead of the democratic candidates and apologize for being born white. Then we can move on to the reparations.

 

Like I always say................

 

those anti-American Demonrat pricks can shove their racism up their azzes, sideways.

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11 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

I can see it a mile away.

 

It is racist for the President to condemn other groups that aren't white supremacy.

 

 

Nope.  "Trump refuses to condemn white supremacy."  

 

They're basically going to rerun the same stories they did from Charlottesville.

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5 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Nope.  "Trump refuses to condemn white supremacy."  

 

They're basically going to rerun the same stories they did from Charlottesville.

 

Didnt that start back when he was running and didnt even know who David Duke was?

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Guns need to be tracked with an embedded GPS tracking device. If your gun doesn't carry the tracking device, you lose it. Develop/advance technology in public gun detection devices. Go through a Walmart entrance that can be locked down If certain weapons are detected. Install gun detectioon devices in the streets to indicate gun carriers.

 

You will never be able to keep track of every looney tune that wants to kill people, but we can damn sure do a better job keeping track of guns in the US IMO. 

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3 minutes ago, Figster said:

Guns need to be tracked with an embedded GPS tracking device. If your gun doesn't carry the tracking device, you lose it. Develop/advance technology in public gun detection devices. Go through a Walmart entrance that can be locked down If certain weapons are detected. Install gun detectioon devices in the streets to indicate gun carriers.

 

You will never be able to keep track of every looney tune that wants to kill people, but we can damn sure do a better job keeping track of guns in the US IMO. 

Why not just embed the looney tunes?  

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Figster said:

Guns need to be tracked with an embedded GPS tracking device. If your gun doesn't carry the tracking device, you lose it. Develop/advance technology in public gun detection devices. Go through a Walmart entrance that can be locked down If certain weapons are detected. Install gun detectioon devices in the streets to indicate gun carriers.

 

You will never be able to keep track of every looney tune that wants to kill people, but we can damn sure do a better job keeping track of guns in the US IMO. 

 

Are you the same guy who thought all we needed to protect our southern border was a few dogs?

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7 minutes ago, Figster said:

Guns need to be tracked with an embedded GPS tracking device. If your gun doesn't carry the tracking device, you lose it. Develop/advance technology in public gun detection devices. Go through a Walmart entrance that can be locked down If certain weapons are detected. Install gun detectioon devices in the streets to indicate gun carriers.

 

You will never be able to keep track of every looney tune that wants to kill people, but we can damn sure do a better job keeping track of guns in the US IMO. 

Over 300 million guns in the us and you want to embed a gps tracking device in every one?  

 

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Just now, bdutton said:

Over 300 million guns in the us and you want to embed a gps tracking device in every one?  

 

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Eventually, yes

 

Its up to the owner to get the device installed or risk losing it.

 

Manufacturers would need to add the tracking device to all new guns. 

 

Right now when a gun gets stolen theres no way to stop the gun from harming the public in some way and its a never ending problem. 

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22 minutes ago, Figster said:

Guns need to be tracked with an embedded GPS tracking device. If your gun doesn't carry the tracking device, you lose it. Develop/advance technology in public gun detection devices. Go through a Walmart entrance that can be locked down If certain weapons are detected. Install gun detectioon devices in the streets to indicate gun carriers.

 

You will never be able to keep track of every looney tune that wants to kill people, but we can damn sure do a better job keeping track of guns in the US IMO. 

 

Well, that's one way to violate four different Amendments at the same time!

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1 minute ago, Figster said:

Eventually, yes

 

Its up to the owner to get the device installed or risk losing it.

 

Manufacturers would need to add the tracking device to all new guns. 

 

Right now when a gun gets stolen theres no way to stop the gun from harming the public in some way and its a never ending problem. 

Maybe we could just talk to the gun and convince it not to harm anyone.

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1 minute ago, Figster said:

Eventually, yes

 

Its up to the owner to get the device installed or risk losing it.

 

Manufacturers would need to add the tracking device to all new guns. 

 

Right now when a gun gets stolen theres no way to stop the gun from harming the public in some way and its a never ending problem. 

"there's no way to stop the gun from harming the public?"  what the...?!  

 

you may be 2 fig newton's short of a full sleeve ?

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21 minutes ago, Figster said:

Guns need to be tracked with an embedded GPS tracking device. If your gun doesn't carry the tracking device, you lose it. Develop/advance technology in public gun detection devices. Go through a Walmart entrance that can be locked down If certain weapons are detected. Install gun detectioon devices in the streets to indicate gun carriers.

 

You will never be able to keep track of every looney tune that wants to kill people, but we can damn sure do a better job keeping track of guns in the US IMO. 

 

Sounds like London.  

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7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

"there's no way to stop the gun from harming the public?"  what the...?!  

 

you may be 2 fig newton's short of a full sleeve ?

Well they did take the fig out of the Newton.

 

but yes, guns in the hands of criminals in many instances results in harm to the public,

 

If you can add two and two... 

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Just now, 3rdnlng said:

Maybe we could just talk to the gun and convince it not to harm anyone.

Good thought but unworkable:

 

German guns are cold and distant, and to be frank they really just want to rule the world.

Italian guns are prone to emotional outbursts.

Irish guns are generally knee deep in the sauce by 10am.

Swiss guns, well they want to get a feel which way the winds are blowing before they commit to anything.

Russian guns?  yeah, good luck.

 

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3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/22/nancy-pelosis-border-wall-alternative-includes-mow/

 

Nancy Pelosi has the solution-----------------------------------mow the grass at the border.

 

But if they mow the grass, where are the feds supposed to put their genetically engineered ticks?! 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/16/pentagon-review-weaponised-ticks-lyme-disease

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12 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

100% unConstitutional.

 

Can’t be done by law.

 

”Shall not be infringed”

 

Start there. Learn how to Amend the US Constitution.

 

Then, when that’s failed, pound sand.

Really?    Supreme Court decision DC vs Heller, upholding the 2nd amendment.  Page 2:

 

"2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56."

 

This of the majority opinion supporting the second amendment.  A nice way to show that you are 100% wrong.

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4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Good thought but unworkable:

 

German guns are cold and distant, and to be frank they really just want to rule the world.

Italian guns are prone to emotional outbursts.

Irish guns are generally knee deep in the sauce by 10am.

Swiss guns, well they want to get a feel which way the winds are blowing before they commit to anything.

Russian guns?  yeah, good luck.

 

Those are nothing like French Guns that have a reverse mode.

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16 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Maybe we could just talk to the gun and convince it not to harm anyone.

I'll talk to it alright,

 

Tell me where your at, at all times, or your punk ass is getting melted down and made into a trash can so you can eat garbage.

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2 minutes ago, Figster said:

I'll talk to it alright,

 

Tell me where your at, at all times, or your punk ass is getting melted down and made into a trash can so you can eat garbage.

Be more precise and you'll avoid responses that mock you.

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