YoloinOhio Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The Browns are so bad they're going to make two teams worse. Bills fans trying to say that the Bills are more inept or equal to the Browns is hilarious. No one can out-do Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The Browns are so bad they're going to make two teams worse. Â Well done, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Gooooooo Seattle! Â Â I'm going to trust that this assessment comes from the countless hours you've spent in the locker room and on the practice field with these guys, and is not a baseless assertion or a hunch based on stats and what you see on TV. Â The best coach on staff could be the DBs coach. It could be the RBs coach. We don't have enough information here. Regardless, the point stands that keeping Pettine is important. But if you think keeping Pettine and essentially scrapping everyone loyal to Marrone would work -- and this is essentially what you'd have to do in this scenario -- that's bonkers. Â Also, Pettine's results were the most impressive, but they have plenty of room for improvement including the abysmal and inconsistent run defense. Seriously ?! . . . . you want to defend or take Marrone over Pettine if given a choice right now, with the information you have ? --- I hate when folks debate or argue with the reasoning that "we aren't in the locker room OR don't have all the information" --- that's crap --- open your eyes and watch what is happening --- you are the same guys that defended Jauron, Gailey,Mularkey and every other retread that this FO has hired and ultimately fired ---- unbelievable --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 All the reporters ran with info from the daughter's tweet that was then deleted. But it sounds like the Browns confirmed it because it was in an Plain Dealer article that they were "blown away" by Quinn and Pettine and bringing them both back. I could be wrong, but, I doubt that Mort would make this report today based on a days old tweet by a daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 It's pretty close... Â LOL! Sadly, you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 LOL! Sadly, you are right. Browns fans wish this was the case, but they are truly in a league of their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Never a good sign, seems to be down to him or quinn. Frankly with the staff Cleveland had in place I have no idea how they see whatever either of these two could bring would be an upgrade. Â Lets hope they are waiting for playoff participants to be available ... 0:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 It's pretty close... Â Not that close, really. But that's really more a testament to the phenomenal trainwreck that is the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) He put Pettine in the position to succeed i would guess. The boss should always get the credit or the debit. Its the hierarchy thing . If you can blame him you should also credit him. i do understand your point though. Â I saw nothing but regression the 2nd half of the season. Besides the Miami win (which could've had more to do with their annual implosion rather than Bills dominance), I watched the Bills drop 3 games to teams with worse records (Atl, TB). Â As for Pettine, it actually wouldn't surprise me to hear that his hire came down from above (ie. Whaley). It was an iuncharacteristic hire for Marrone, whose other 2 major hires (his other coordinators) were favors for his buddies and really haven't shined the way Pettine has. Edited January 20, 2014 by kas23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Â Â I saw nothing but regression the 2nd half of the season. Besides the Miami win (which could've had more to do with their annual implosion rather than Bills dominance), I watched the Bills drop 3 games to teams with worse records (Atl, TB, Jax). Â As for Pettine, it actually wouldn't surprise me to hear that his hire came down from above (ie. Whaley). It was an iuncharacteristic hire for Marrone, whose other 2 major hires (his other coordinators) were favors for his buddies and really haven't shined the way Pettine has. Â I agree 100%. Sad but true. And let's not forget that Marrone has connections to Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Â Â I saw nothing but regression the 2nd half of the season. Besides the Miami win (which could've had more to do with their annual implosion rather than Bills dominance), I watched the Bills drop 3 games to teams with worse records (Atl, TB, Jax). Â As for Pettine, it actually wouldn't surprise me to hear that his hire came down from above (ie. Whaley). It was an iuncharacteristic hire for Marrone, whose other 2 major hires (his other coordinators) were favors for his buddies and really haven't shined the way Pettine has. Â For the sake of accuracy, the Bills beat Jacksonville. Err Jacksonville beat themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I saw nothing but regression the 2nd half of the season. Besides the Miami win (which could've had more to do with their annual implosion rather than Bills dominance), I watched the Bills drop 3 games to teams with worse records (Atl, TB, Jax). Â As for Pettine, it actually wouldn't surprise me to hear that his hire came down from above (ie. Whaley). It was an iuncharacteristic hire for Marrone, whose other 2 major hires (his other coordinators) were favors for his buddies and really haven't shined the way Pettine has. Â They didn't lose to Jax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Â Seriously ?! . . . . you want to defend or take Marrone over Pettine if given a choice right now, with the information you have ? --- I hate when folks debate or argue with the reasoning that "we aren't in the locker room OR don't have all the information" --- that's crap --- open your eyes and watch what is happening --- you are the same guys that defended Jauron, Gailey,Mularkey and every other retread that this FO has hired and ultimately fired ---- unbelievable --- Â In defense of the Marrone supporter, Pettine's defense, while being the only bright spot of the season, needs to improve for the Bills to be competitive. Not only was the run defense suspect, we had to watch our secondary get absolutely torched by mediocre QBs. Plus, on D we gave up way too many points. With the completely inept offense we had, we needed to limit the opponent's scoring and we couldn't. Come to think of it, if Pettine leaves, I would be begging Wade to come back. Now those were great defenses. Â Â Â They didn't lose to Jax... Â Yep. Doesn't change my point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 In defense of the Marrone supporter, Pettine's defense, while being the only bright spot of the season, needs to improve for the Bills to be competitive. Not only was the run defense suspect, we had to watch our secondary get absolutely torched by mediocre QBs. Plus, on D we gave up way too many points. With the completely inept offense we had, we needed to limit the opponent's scoring and we couldn't. Come to think of it, if Pettine leaves, I would be begging Wade to come back. Now those were great defenses. ?? --- Take a step back and analyze the team's performance overall --- what were strengths / weaknesses --- where did players improve or regress ---- if you do that --- On DEFENSE: agree, torched by the big play, struggled to get off the field on 3rd down --- BUT, saw huge improvement in pass defense (sorry, look at the stats); pass rush and turnovers --- we saw huge individual improvement from Hughes, Lawson, McKelvin, A Williams and Dareus ---- solid years from Kyle and Mario, Byrd --- on OFFENSE: please insert the positives ? --- O-line regressed from last year; Spiller regressed --- F Jack had v good year --- I saw neutral change with Stevie and Chandler --- on SPECIAL TEAMS: (see Crossman thread --- so, when you summarize the team -- the lone bright spot vs. last couple years is the DEFENSE --- let me ask all the Marrone lovers --- besides hiring Pettine, what has he done that is so remarkable ? --- do you want the guy that hired the genius or the genius -- I'm just saying !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 ?? --- Take a step back and analyze the team's performance overall --- what were strengths / weaknesses --- where did players improve or regress ---- if you do that --- On DEFENSE: agree, torched by the big play, struggled to get off the field on 3rd down --- BUT, saw huge improvement in pass defense (sorry, look at the stats); pass rush and turnovers --- we saw huge individual improvement from Hughes, Lawson, McKelvin, A Williams and Dareus ---- solid years from Kyle and Mario, Byrd --- on OFFENSE: please insert the positives ? --- O-line regressed from last year; Spiller regressed --- F Jack had v good year --- I saw neutral change with Stevie and Chandler --- on SPECIAL TEAMS: (see Crossman thread --- so, when you summarize the team -- the lone bright spot vs. last couple years is the DEFENSE --- let me ask all the Marrone lovers --- besides hiring Pettine, what has he done that is so remarkable ? --- do you want the guy that hired the genius or the genius -- I'm just saying !! Nice of Pettine's agent to stop by TBD. Be sure to get him more than a 1-year contract in the factory of sadness, k? For the sake of accuracy, the Bills beat Jacksonville. Err Jacksonville beat themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Nice of Pettine's agent to stop by TBD. Be sure to get him more than a 1-year contract in the factory of sadness, k? Â U kidding, I'm fighting to get him a 4-year contract as HC of the Bills -- send Dougie Moron to Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) U kidding, I'm fighting to get him a 4-year contract as HC of the Bills -- send Dougie Moron to Cleveland lol, alrighty! Edited January 20, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 All the reporters ran with info from the daughter's tweet that was then deleted. But it sounds like the Browns confirmed it because it was in an Plain Dealer article that they were "blown away" by Quinn and Pettine and bringing them both back. Â Ha! Blown away. Maybe they should interview Mularkey too, he's supposedly a great interviewer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Ha! Blown away. Maybe they should interview Mularkey too, he's supposedly a great interviewer too. I wonder if one of the interview questions to MP was asking how in bloody hell he lost to Brandon Weeden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 BTW - Schefter said on NFL Countdown that Adam Gase is actually open to listening to the Browns, but they would need to really sell him on the opportunity. It was previously reported that he was not going to leave Denver this year no matter what. Peyton is great friends with Jimmy Rebate and may have convinced him he would be good to work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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