John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 - Pressure all day - Running game is predictable - EJ is in bad third downs all day - Does Hacket have a CLUE of how to give his ROOKIE QB a safety valve....where where the FB passes to the flat - Screens? EJ Manuel did not play well today.....did people really think there were not going to be bumps in the road this season? He was sacked what.....7 times? I feel like Hackett had his nose in "The complete idiots guide to offense" and was running it chapter by chapter....since when is it a good idea to play power football with CJ Spiller.....where was the hot read for EJ? And what is this moronic "but Geno played well so EJ should have done it to" Were the jets missing their top defensive backs like were? Were the jets missing their top safety like we were? Do you HONESTLY think McKelvin or Gilmore would have been burned all day like Justin Rogers was? Marcel Darius? We were decimated by injuries going into this game and just kept taking more as the game goes on. Come on people get grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Thanks. I felt like saying this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I have to dispute the passes to the flat. He is terrible at that. He doesn't have a good feel for leading the back on those passes. He need reps. Lots, and lots of reps. I think he will be good, but he has to keep adding to his repertoire of throws. It's gonna take some time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf Sandwich Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) He is a QB in the NFL now... Expect it, Learn to handle it, If you want it to change, win. Edited September 23, 2013 by Meatloaf Sandwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Hackett is going to ruin EJ and Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 I have to dispute the passes to the flat. He is terrible at that. He doesn't have a good feel for leading the back on those passes. He need reps. Lots, and lots of reps. I think he will be good, but he has to keep adding to his repertoire of throws. It's gonna take some time... They looked pretty good to Summers last week......not ONE to Summers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 They looked pretty good to Summers last week......not ONE to Summers Does it have to be Summers? Manuel's throws to the flat are usually badly placed, and the target has to make a difficult catch. I don't remember every throw to Summers, but I certainly have seen plenty of **** throws to the flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiz Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I give him nothing but credit for his ability to school the bills coaches and scouts by convincing them he's a pocket passer and that over the course of a couple months with a qb coach he had greatly improved from that mediocre FSU qb everybody saw on film. No other teams bought his pile of steaming crap, but these geniuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Who are these rookie quarterbacks? A) 3-13, 26 TD, 28 INT, QB rating: 71.2 B) 0-11, 9 TD, 18 INT, QB rating: 55.7 C) 1-4, 3 TD, 8 INT, QB rating: 56.9 D) 3-13, 12 TD, 14 INT, QB rating: 76.9 E) 4-12, 22 TD, 17 INT, QB rating: 83.8 F) 4-6, 7 TD, 14 INT, QB rating: 54.9 G) 8-8, 17 TD, 16 INT, QB rating: 76.9 The answers? A) Peyton Manning B) Troy Aikman C) Steve Young D) Warren Moon E) Jim Kelly F) John Elway G) Drew Brees Last I heard, those guys all turned out OK. The sky is not falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 - Pressure all day - Running game is predictable - EJ is in bad third downs all day - Does Hacket have a CLUE of how to give his ROOKIE QB a safety valve....where where the FB passes to the flat - Screens? EJ Manuel did not play well today.....did people really think there were not going to be bumps in the road this season? He was sacked what.....7 times? I feel like Hackett had his nose in "The complete idiots guide to offense" and was running it chapter by chapter....since when is it a good idea to play power football with CJ Spiller.....where was the hot read for EJ? And what is this moronic "but Geno played well so EJ should have done it to" Were the jets missing their top defensive backs like were? Were the jets missing their top safety like we were? Do you HONESTLY think McKelvin or Gilmore would have been burned all day like Justin Rogers was? Marcel Darius? We were decimated by injuries going into this game and just kept taking more as the game goes on. Come on people get grip Great points. Exactly what I think most intelligent fans were thinking. Why was our -go to play- to try and convert every third down.... just throw a fade to ANYONE. Come on Hackett... is that the best we can dial up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 - Pressure all day - Running game is predictable - EJ is in bad third downs all day - Does Hacket have a CLUE of how to give his ROOKIE QB a safety valve....where where the FB passes to the flat - Screens? EJ Manuel did not play well today.....did people really think there were not going to be bumps in the road this season? He was sacked what.....7 times? I feel like Hackett had his nose in "The complete idiots guide to offense" and was running it chapter by chapter....since when is it a good idea to play power football with CJ Spiller.....where was the hot read for EJ? And what is this moronic "but Geno played well so EJ should have done it to" Were the jets missing their top defensive backs like were? Were the jets missing their top safety like we were? Do you HONESTLY think McKelvin or Gilmore would have been burned all day like Justin Rogers was? Marcel Darius? We were decimated by injuries going into this game and just kept taking more as the game goes on. Come on people get grip True dat John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 I give him nothing but credit for his ability to school the bills coaches and scouts by convincing them he's a pocket passer and that over the course of a couple months with a qb coach he had greatly improved from that mediocre FSU qb everybody saw on film. No other teams bought his pile of steaming crap, but these geniuses. More moronic talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clippers of Nfl Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Bills turning on Ej is not fair. He had the house coming on every 3rd down. With limited creativity, we should be happy they were not ints on every 3rd down play. And cj being a power up the middle runner is plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 Does it have to be Summers? Manuel's throws to the flat are usually badly placed, and the target has to make a difficult catch. I don't remember every throw to Summers, but I certainly have seen plenty of **** throws to the flat. I have also seen Manuel make some very catchable throws to the flat that have been dropped......doesn't anyon remember Ben Rothelsberger's rookie season? - Strong Defense kept give him the ball - Strong running game to cover him up - Lots of passes that ball catcher's made difficult catches on bad passes to help their ROOKIE qb out and allow the game to slow down for him and get his confidence up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Who are these rookie quarterbacks? A) 3-13, 26 TD, 28 INT, QB rating: 71.2 B) 0-11, 9 TD, 18 INT, QB rating: 55.7 C) 1-4, 3 TD, 8 INT, QB rating: 56.9 D) 3-13, 12 TD, 14 INT, QB rating: 76.9 E) 4-12, 22 TD, 17 INT, QB rating: 83.8 F) 4-6, 7 TD, 14 INT, QB rating: 54.9 G) 8-8, 17 TD, 16 INT, QB rating: 76.9 The answers? A) Peyton Manning B) Troy Aikman C) Steve Young D) Warren Moon E) Jim Kelly F) John Elway G) Drew Brees Last I heard, those guys all turned out OK. The sky is not falling. Great post...And proper perspective... It's not going to be all roses with EJ this year...We better get used to that fact...And unless the Bills can figure out how to run the ball MUCH better, and get the kid into better 3rd down situations, it's going to continue to be up and down for him this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I have also seen Manuel make some very catchable throws to the flat that have been dropped......doesn't anyon remember Ben Rothelsberger's rookie season? - Strong Defense kept give him the ball - Strong running game to cover him up - Lots of passes that ball catcher's made difficult catches on bad passes to help their ROOKIE qb out and allow the game to slow down for him and get his confidence up. I LIKE MANUEL. I just don't think passes to the flat are a strength of his. I think the young receivers are making it more difficult for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boludo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 hes an nfl quarterback last week he was the hero this week he wears the blame thats life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I always thought that being moronic was a prerequisite for posting on forums. I'm gonna have to rethink my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I realize it's not EJ. The play calling really gets me, where are the screen calls? I feel like I've seen none to CJ. I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Who are these rookie quarterbacks? A) 3-13, 26 TD, 28 INT, QB rating: 71.2 B) 0-11, 9 TD, 18 INT, QB rating: 55.7 C) 1-4, 3 TD, 8 INT, QB rating: 56.9 D) 3-13, 12 TD, 14 INT, QB rating: 76.9 E) 4-12, 22 TD, 17 INT, QB rating: 83.8 F) 4-6, 7 TD, 14 INT, QB rating: 54.9 G) 8-8, 17 TD, 16 INT, QB rating: 76.9 The answers? A) Peyton Manning B) Troy Aikman C) Steve Young D) Warren Moon E) Jim Kelly F) John Elway G) Drew Brees Last I heard, those guys all turned out OK. The sky is not falling. great post ej did look slow as F*&^ though when scrambling, knee? I cant stand how quick he gets rid of it on third and long. I think Hackett makes him look much worse than he is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I realize it's not EJ. It was EJ. It was the OL and it was the WRs. Just because others struggled doesn't mean EJ gets a free pass for his mistakes. He was horrendous yesterday. It was about as bad of a performance as I've seen at the QB position in a long while. That being said the rest of the O sucked too so it was a total team collapse, not just EJ. The one positive I have from yesterday's game is that the week before Brady threw for less than 50% and sucked as well so I think it's safe to say the Jets have one hell of a defense and it's not just our rookie QB. Let's see how he bounced back next week against the...gulp...Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoName Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 DearTBD: I think E.J. should throw more check downs. He is far to aggressive for my taste. Sincerely, Trent Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eme123 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 - Pressure all day - Running game is predictable - EJ is in bad third downs all day - Does Hacket have a CLUE of how to give his ROOKIE QB a safety valve....where where the FB passes to the flat - Screens? EJ Manuel did not play well today.....did people really think there were not going to be bumps in the road this season? He was sacked what.....7 times? I feel like Hackett had his nose in "The complete idiots guide to offense" and was running it chapter by chapter....since when is it a good idea to play power football with CJ Spiller.....where was the hot read for EJ? And what is this moronic "but Geno played well so EJ should have done it to" Were the jets missing their top defensive backs like were? Were the jets missing their top safety like we were? Do you HONESTLY think McKelvin or Gilmore would have been burned all day like Justin Rogers was? Marcel Darius? We were decimated by injuries going into this game and just kept taking more as the game goes on. Come on people get grip +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 - Pressure all day - Running game is predictable - EJ is in bad third downs all day - Does Hacket have a CLUE of how to give his ROOKIE QB a safety valve....where where the FB passes to the flat - Screens? EJ Manuel did not play well today.....did people really think there were not going to be bumps in the road this season? He was sacked what.....7 times? I feel like Hackett had his nose in "The complete idiots guide to offense" and was running it chapter by chapter....since when is it a good idea to play power football with CJ Spiller.....where was the hot read for EJ? And what is this moronic "but Geno played well so EJ should have done it to" Were the jets missing their top defensive backs like were? Were the jets missing their top safety like we were? Do you HONESTLY think McKelvin or Gilmore would have been burned all day like Justin Rogers was? Marcel Darius? We were decimated by injuries going into this game and just kept taking more as the game goes on. Come on people get grip Good post John. Yeh, things like screens/slip-screens, tight end screens, ect., ect. Where are they? We knew coming into the season there would be games like this as part of the maturation process. But better play-design on offense is needed here. On defense? Man we can't stop 3rd & long worth a _ _ _ _. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Great post, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 - Pressure all day - Running game is predictable - EJ is in bad third downs all day - Does Hacket have a CLUE of how to give his ROOKIE QB a safety valve....where where the FB passes to the flat - Screens? EJ Manuel did not play well today.....did people really think there were not going to be bumps in the road this season? He was sacked what.....7 times? I feel like Hackett had his nose in "The complete idiots guide to offense" and was running it chapter by chapter....since when is it a good idea to play power football with CJ Spiller.....where was the hot read for EJ? And what is this moronic "but Geno played well so EJ should have done it to" Were the jets missing their top defensive backs like were? Were the jets missing their top safety like we were? Do you HONESTLY think McKelvin or Gilmore would have been burned all day like Justin Rogers was? Marcel Darius? We were decimated by injuries going into this game and just kept taking more as the game goes on. Come on people get grip He was the focus of much praise last week (and after week 1). He received too much praise. Is he getting too much blame? Maybe, but that's what he signed up for. He sucked yesterday. You are correct WRT Hackett. Poorly called game, but the execution (calling John McKay) was just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I agree. I think we should expect games like this our of a rookie. I think EJ is the future of this team, although yesterday -for the first time- made me seriously begin to question that. Let us see what the rest of the season brings. Hopefully this is a bump in the road. I think a major portion of the blame goes to the o line and play calling. Even so, EJ was totally off all day. What I don't understand is why he was not pulled in the late 3rd quarter early 4th quarter. I know most will say that they don't want him to lose confidence or that he gave us the best chance to win. Frankly, I do not buy either argument. He learned nothing by being in there at that point in the game. Indeed, you could argue that staying in shook his confidence more. Even so, if the guy can't handle taking a seat for a quarter, he is not the kind of guy that is the future of the team. In addition, he did not give us the best chance to win, His passed were wildly inaccurate. The defense, although not great, kept us in the game as did the Jets stupid mistakes, I just think a change of pace with Tuel may (not definate) have given the team a better chance. There will be bumps in the road with rookies, we all get that, but when there are bumps, the coaches must manage the situation, just letting him faulter in there helps nobody. With that - let the criticism of this post begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I agree. I think we should expect games like this our of a rookie. I think EJ is the future of this team, although yesterday -for the first time- made me seriously begin to question that. Let us see what the rest of the season brings. Hopefully this is a bump in the road. I think a major portion of the blame goes to the o line and play calling. Even so, EJ was totally off all day. What I don't understand is why he was not pulled in the late 3rd quarter early 4th quarter. I know most will say that they don't want him to lose confidence or that he gave us the best chance to win. Frankly, I do not buy either argument. He learned nothing by being in there at that point in the game. Indeed, you could argue that staying in shook his confidence more. Even so, if the guy can't handle taking a seat for a quarter, he is not the kind of guy that is the future of the team. In addition, he did not give us the best chance to win, His passed were wildly inaccurate. The defense, although not great, kept us in the game as did the Jets stupid mistakes, I just think a change of pace with Tuel may (not definate) have given the team a better chance. There will be bumps in the road with rookies, we all get that, but when there are bumps, the coaches must manage the situation, just letting him faulter in there helps nobody. With that - let the criticism of this post begin! EJ tied the game up late in the 4th. But let's pull him, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 - Pressure all day - Running game is predictable - EJ is in bad third downs all day - Does Hacket have a CLUE of how to give his ROOKIE QB a safety valve....where where the FB passes to the flat - Screens? EJ Manuel did not play well today.....did people really think there were not going to be bumps in the road this season? He was sacked what.....7 times? I feel like Hackett had his nose in "The complete idiots guide to offense" and was running it chapter by chapter....since when is it a good idea to play power football with CJ Spiller.....where was the hot read for EJ? And what is this moronic "but Geno played well so EJ should have done it to" Were the jets missing their top defensive backs like were? Were the jets missing their top safety like we were? Do you HONESTLY think McKelvin or Gilmore would have been burned all day like Justin Rogers was? Marcel Darius? We were decimated by injuries going into this game and just kept taking more as the game goes on. Come on people get grip Well, that sums up everything I've been saying. Also, no QB would have had a good day behind that line and w/ that play calling. Perhaps Peyton Manning, but no one else. Big Ben is struggling w/ fumbles and INT's in Pittsburgh, due to no running game and poor O-line play. I agree. I think we should expect games like this our of a rookie. I think EJ is the future of this team, although yesterday -for the first time- made me seriously begin to question that. Let us see what the rest of the season brings. Hopefully this is a bump in the road. I think a major portion of the blame goes to the o line and play calling. Even so, EJ was totally off all day. What I don't understand is why he was not pulled in the late 3rd quarter early 4th quarter. I know most will say that they don't want him to lose confidence or that he gave us the best chance to win. Frankly, I do not buy either argument. He learned nothing by being in there at that point in the game. Indeed, you could argue that staying in shook his confidence more. Even so, if the guy can't handle taking a seat for a quarter, he is not the kind of guy that is the future of the team. In addition, he did not give us the best chance to win, His passed were wildly inaccurate. The defense, although not great, kept us in the game as did the Jets stupid mistakes, I just think a change of pace with Tuel may (not definate) have given the team a better chance. There will be bumps in the road with rookies, we all get that, but when there are bumps, the coaches must manage the situation, just letting him faulter in there helps nobody. With that - let the criticism of this post begin! Nope. Agreement. The coaches are trying to make EJ win the games way too much. The O-line is a huge liability, and the play calling is not helping EJ out AT ALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Who are these rookie quarterbacks? A) 3-13, 26 TD, 28 INT, QB rating: 71.2 B) 0-11, 9 TD, 18 INT, QB rating: 55.7 C) 1-4, 3 TD, 8 INT, QB rating: 56.9 D) 3-13, 12 TD, 14 INT, QB rating: 76.9 E) 4-12, 22 TD, 17 INT, QB rating: 83.8 F) 4-6, 7 TD, 14 INT, QB rating: 54.9 G) 8-8, 17 TD, 16 INT, QB rating: 76.9 The answers? A) Peyton Manning B) Troy Aikman C) Steve Young D) Warren Moon E) Jim Kelly F) John Elway G) Drew Brees Last I heard, those guys all turned out OK. The sky is not falling. +1. When they win, EJ is great, when they lose, EJ is terrible. I love fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 - Pressure all day - Running game is predictable - EJ is in bad third downs all day - Does Hacket have a CLUE of how to give his ROOKIE QB a safety valve....where where the FB passes to the flat - Screens? EJ Manuel did not play well today.....did people really think there were not going to be bumps in the road this season? He was sacked what.....7 times? I feel like Hackett had his nose in "The complete idiots guide to offense" and was running it chapter by chapter....since when is it a good idea to play power football with CJ Spiller.....where was the hot read for EJ? And what is this moronic "but Geno played well so EJ should have done it to" Were the jets missing their top defensive backs like were? Were the jets missing their top safety like we were? Do you HONESTLY think McKelvin or Gilmore would have been burned all day like Justin Rogers was? Marcel Darius? We were decimated by injuries going into this game and just kept taking more as the game goes on. Come on people get grip Thank for a well reasoned, logical and unemotional post. Now I will cease reading TSW until next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qblax16 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 thanks for starting this, leave the kid alone. If he's taking 8 sacks a game this time next year we may have to worry a little bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 +1. When they win, EJ is great, when they lose, EJ is terrible. I love fans. He was terrible in our loss yesterday. Facts are facts. But I still think the OP is spot on. It's week 3. If he's still doing this in the last 1/3 of the season, I'll start to become concerned. Right now ... nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braedenstearns Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) - Pressure all day - Running game is predictable - EJ is in bad third downs all day - Does Hacket have a CLUE of how to give his ROOKIE QB a safety valve....where where the FB passes to the flat - Screens? EJ Manuel did not play well today.....did people really think there were not going to be bumps in the road this season? He was sacked what.....7 times? I feel like Hackett had his nose in "The complete idiots guide to offense" and was running it chapter by chapter....since when is it a good idea to play power football with CJ Spiller.....where was the hot read for EJ? And what is this moronic "but Geno played well so EJ should have done it to" Were the jets missing their top defensive backs like were? Were the jets missing their top safety like we were? Do you HONESTLY think McKelvin or Gilmore would have been burned all day like Justin Rogers was? Marcel Darius? We were decimated by injuries going into this game and just kept taking more as the game goes on. Come on people get grip I Agree with all of that. They need to bring back the screen with CJ! PLEASE! Edited September 23, 2013 by Braedenstearns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 EJ tied the game up late in the 4th. But let's pull him, whatever. To be honest, the Jets were far more responsible for the Bills last score than the Bills were. But throwing Manuel under the bus for one stinker game makes no sense either. Besides, he was not alone in the stinking department. Numerous coaches and players from both sidelines made that game the stink-fest that it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Well, that sums up everything I've been saying. Also, no QB would have had a good day behind that line and w/ that play calling. Perhaps Peyton Manning, but no one else. Big Ben is struggling w/ fumbles and INT's in Pittsburgh, due to no running game and poor O-line play. Nope. Agreement. The coaches are trying to make EJ win the games way too much. The O-line is a huge liability, and the play calling is not helping EJ out AT ALL. The defensive game plan is as such. EJ is just going to need to beat them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 in re-watching the game last night I saw hook route after hook route giving ej no where to go, CJ also was not as bad as he looked as I noticed the line not making holes on all but one play where he just missed it, but that was one out of 5 where there was nothing there. HACKETT SUCKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Great post...And proper perspective... It's not going to be all roses with EJ this year...We better get used to that fact...And unless the Bills can figure out how to run the ball MUCH better, and get the kid into better 3rd down situations, it's going to continue to be up and down for him this year... Excellent Point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 He is a QB in the NFL now... Expect it, Learn to handle it, If you want it to change, win. Oversimplication is a wonderful thing. Yesterday EJ did not play well. There were a number of reasons for this and the majority of them were not his fault. Piling on is just ignorant of the game of football. Was it ihs fault that the OC never adjusted to what the defense was giving them? Was it his fault that the O-Line played putridly and the Jets were in his face all day? Of course it wasn't. No he didn't play well and some of that is on him. Not all of it however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Manuel was sacked 8 times and pressured all day. I lay no (NONE) blame at his feet. Colin Brown should be traded for a dog. TJ Graham is not an NFL WR and the OC and DC did their struggling players no favors by repeatedly putting them in a position to fail. Nah, EJ will be alright. I was shocked he tied it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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