MarkyMannn Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He gave the murder weapon to some girl to hold onto? OK someone has to say it, the gun girl, Jailene Diaz-Ramoz , .......................................No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Maybe his lawyer is angling to get him tried as a juvenile, since he has the brains of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 OK someone has to say it, the gun girl, Jailene Diaz-Ramoz , .......................................No The gun Moll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Wheels Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Aaron Hernandez will be formally indicted by grand jury today for murder of Odin Lloyd according to WCVB in Boston. Edited August 22, 2013 by Golden Wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Aaron Hernandez will be formally indicted by grand jury today for murder of Odin Lloyd according to WCVB in Boston. Yep. It's done and he's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So what's the importance of this? Just curious. There is still going to be a trial right? CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 So what's the importance of this? Just curious. There is still going to be a trial right? CBF its the next step towards a trial. If I am Hernandez I am thinking about a plea that will include this murder and the other 2 he almost certainly committed summer 2012. but, I am not him, he is basically as dumb as a stone, o i guess Mass will have to waste untold funds to try him and get to basically inevitable guilty verdict. i hope thy fine him enough to cover his court costs. I don't care about his demon spawn, let the state get whole first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Girlfriend, others indicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Girlfriend, others indicted They want Hernandez bad. This is the police putting the screws to everyone - either the others say what they want or perhaps even Hernandez steps up to take the pressure off people like his fiancé (although I think he's a dirtbag and would let her take the fall). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 its the next step towards a trial. If I am Hernandez I am thinking about a plea that will include this murder and the other 2 he almost certainly committed summer 2012. but, I am not him, he is basically as dumb as a stone, o i guess Mass will have to waste untold funds to try him and get to basically inevitable guilty verdict. i hope thy fine him enough to cover his court costs. I don't care about his demon spawn, let the state get whole first. The cooperating witness has changed his story- still pointing at AH but changes are not good for the state here. Underscores how many surprises may still come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 The cooperating witness has changed his story- still pointing at AH but changes are not good for the state here. Underscores how many surprises may still come up. i don't think they need him that badly anyway, the circumstantial evidence is exceedingly compelling. murdering wannabe gangster. pope of greenwich village redux except even dumber than Paulie, and more lethal by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drop Kick Flutie Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 i don't think they need him that badly anyway, the circumstantial evidence is exceedingly compelling. murdering wannabe gangster. pope of greenwich village redux except even dumber than Paulie, and more lethal by far. Maybe for you, but a court of law needs more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Maybe for you, but a court of law needs more. not correct actually plenty of cases are brought to conviction by circumstantial evidence alone. That said I am reasonably certain that the police likely found some forensics as well. AH is such a fool - way he did not leave more. Plus the videotapes of him waving the gun around before and after the murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Maybe for you, but a court of law needs more. If three men take another man to "intimidate him" and one decides to shoot him they are all guilty of murder. It is the same as planning to break into a house and your buddy shoots the homeowner, you had no idea that was part of the plan but you still assisted in helping it happen. Edited September 28, 2013 by NDBUFFCUSEFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Girlfriend, others indicted That's one nasty looking lesion on her lip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drop Kick Flutie Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 not correct actually plenty of cases are brought to conviction by circumstantial evidence alone. That said I am reasonably certain that the police likely found some forensics as well. AH is such a fool - way he did not leave more. Plus the videotapes of him waving the gun around before and after the murder. Not with the kind of lawyer that thug can afford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Girlfriend, others indicted "The girlfriend of former New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez has been indicted on a perjury charge in connection with the killing of his friend, a Massachusetts prosecutor said Friday, bringing to five the number of people facing charges in the case...." OK. I may be a little picky here, but does it bug anyone else that virtually every article and newscast from the beginning (including the quote above) say Hernandez killed his FRIEND?? #1) From everything I have read, it doesn't sound like they were ever friends. 2) Can't we at least cease calling them 'friends' now that one has murdered the other. GEESH!. Maybe it's just me but it sounds freakn' re-DONCulous every time I read: He killed his friend!! Who Kills their friend?!?!!?!! Edited September 28, 2013 by Cville Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 "The girlfriend of former New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez has been indicted on a perjury charge in connection with the killing of his friend, a Massachusetts prosecutor said Friday, bringing to five the number of people facing charges in the case...." OK. I may be a little picky here, but does it bug anyone else that virtually every article and newscast from the beginning (including the quote above) say Hernandez killed his FRIEND?? #1) From everything I have read, it doesn't sound like they were ever friends. 2) Can't we at least cease calling them 'friends' now that one has murdered the other. GEESH!. Maybe it's just me but it sounds freakn' re-DONCulous every time I read: He killed his friend!! Who Kills their friend?!?!!?!! Yup, I have thought the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Not with the kind of lawyer that thug can afford I agree, these lawyers can take circumstantial evidence apart. He will harp on the fact that the jury can't convict him if there is a reasonable doubt. His lawyer will create a reasonable doubt in the jury's mind. Even though everyone watching will know he's 100% guilty, the jury will overthink things just like in the Casey Anthony case. These high paid lawyers know how to play jurys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I agree, these lawyers can take circumstantial evidence apart. He will harp on the fact that the jury can't convict him if there is a reasonable doubt. His lawyer will create a reasonable doubt in the jury's mind. Even though everyone watching will know he's 100% guilty, the jury will overthink things just like in the Casey Anthony case. These high paid lawyers know how to play jurys. The jury in the Casey Anthony case made a reasonable decision in determining that Casey Anthony was not guilty of murder. The prosecution over-charged in that case. The fundamental issue for the jury in that case wasn't believing whether she killed her daughter; the issue is whether there was enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that proved that she was guilty. There is a distinction. Although this jury was in general vilified their verdict demonstrated a courage on their part to base their verdict on the facts and the law. The prosecution couldn't prove how she died and when she died. Thinking someone killed someone and proving it are not the same thing. In the George Zimmerman case the prosecution again over-charged. They should have charged him with the lesser manslaughter charge instead of the murder charge. In this case the jury had the ability to find him guilty of the lesser manslaughter charge but the trial mostly focused on the murder charge. In my opinion he was guilty of the manslaugher charge. If the manslaughter charge would have been the primary charge I believe the jury would have found him guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Aaaaaaand another associate is dead.... http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2013/12/aaron_hernandez_trial_woman_wi.html In addition to being connected to Hernandez's social circle in Bristol, Perry was also involved in the July 2 crash that killed 33-year-old Thaddeus Singleton III, who was expected to be interviewed by police in connection to Lloyd's death. This marks the third death of individuals connected to Hernandez since he arrest six months ago. Robert Valentine, another uncle of Hernandez, was killed in a moped crash in Bristol back in August. looks unconnected, but but given how crazy the whole story is... who knows.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Aaaaaaand another associate is dead.... http://blog.masslive...l_woman_wi.html looks unconnected, but but given how crazy the whole story is... who knows.... Wow...who believes in coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Aaaaaaand another associate is dead.... http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2013/12/aaron_hernandez_trial_woman_wi.html looks unconnected, but but given how crazy the whole story is... who knows.... He has a lot of dead people connected to him. A whole new twist on the 6 degrees of separation or Kevin Bacon thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Not looking good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesir Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Not looking good for him. Just the opposite, the more associates and people they want to interview that die, the less people there are to testify against him. Isn't that what mobsters do? Kill off all the witnesses. Case goes "poof" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Update.... http://abcnews.go.com/US/aaron-hernandez-jailhouse-fight-face-charges/story?id=22678149 CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The Patriot* Way!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Wrongful death lawsuits brought against Hernandez. http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/27/us/aaron-hernandez-lawsuit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Its looking like he is going to get away with it more and more. Or at the very least get the best of it. With everything connected to him a lot of it doesn't seem to be admicible, direct with first hand knowledge or tie ins, etc. The case looks strong against him but with premier attorneys, a few good rulings and some luck be might just get a break. Sad. Because the guy seems like grade A scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Wrongful death lawsuits brought against Hernandez. http://www.cnn.com/2...nandez-lawsuit/ We made it into a national article! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Did he score on that play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Did he score on that play? Hernandez scores a touchdown against the defense of George Wilson of the Buffalo Bills on January 1, 2012, in Foxborough, Massachusetts. Like you needed to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Its looking like he is going to get away with it more and more. Or at the very least get the best of it. With everything connected to him a lot of it doesn't seem to be admicible, direct with first hand knowledge or tie ins, etc. The case looks strong against him but with premier attorneys, a few good rulings and some luck be might just get a break. Sad. Because the guy seems like grade A scum. Even if he does somehow beat these charges, it certainly doesn't appear that he's ready to turn over a new leaf. Considering the bridges he's burned and lack of remorse, I don't see the NFL taking a risk, especially since there's close to 100% chance he'll be nailed for something else shortly after he gets out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 He can sell Pruno on etsy.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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