Buffalo 66 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) Worth a third round pick? Edited September 23, 2012 by Buffalo 66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 A third round pick? Seriously? You think that's what they would take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 product of brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 A third round pick? Seriously? You think that's what they would take? It's all they're likely to get for him. His age and salary don't make it likely that they'd get more. I'm not sure they'd trade him to Buffalo though. I'm also not sure if he's the kind of player that's going to make a difference on the Bills to warrant giving up a third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Not surprised. Belicheat hates when plays talk about contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 I'd give the hoody a third for Mallett and any 2 Bills QB's he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 It's all they're likely to get for him. His age and salary don't make it likely that they'd get more. I'm not sure they'd trade him to Buffalo though. I'm also not sure if he's the kind of player that's going to make a difference on the Bills to warrant giving up a third. Salary is negotiable. And what have we gotten with our 3rd rounders anyway? Other than a SB costing drop last year, he's the most clutch WR in the league. We don't have a clutch go-to WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo 66 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 He will probably end up in Philly for a late second round pick, but would love to see him in a Bills uniform! No way he is worth more than a third round pick, I believe he is 32 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 He would not be traded to the Bills for a 3rd rounder. NE castoffs, even successful ones, aren't a good bet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 and the Patriots' implosion continues....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 and the Patriots' implosion continues....... implosion? Thry lost one game on a missed fg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Worth a third round pick? Hell yeah I'd give the hoody a third for Mallett and any 2 Bills QB's he wants. Fred for Mallett and Welker. and the Patriots' implosion continues....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 implosion? Thry lost one game on a missed fg... A guy can dream can't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Don't make deals with Satan. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 product of brady He was getting open consistently when he was with the Dolphins. Well for the one game I saw him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Is this confirmed or just speculation ? Be funny after bradys comments how everything is fine etc. But it'd certainly be in character for the Kraft tyranny. If they could afford him i could see jets making a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Just speculation at this point. Multiple media sources have reportd this rumor; citing signing of Deion Branch and Welker's reduced workload as "evidence." I think it may happen. Is this confirmed or just speculation ? Be funny after bradys comments how everything is fine etc. But it'd certainly be in character for the Kraft tyranny. If they could afford him i could see jets making a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 A guy can dream can't he? trust me they are imploding, their O-line is garbage and Marsha will checking out plenty of cloud formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 When was the last time a team from one division traded their star player to another team in the same division? You think Belichick will want to face him twice a year? He's going to want to trade him to some team far far away so he doesn't have to deal with that mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) When was the last time a team from one division traded their star player to another team in the same division? Bledsoe trade? PTR Edited September 23, 2012 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 He was getting open consistently when he was with the Dolphins. Well for the one game I saw him play. I think he had the most total yards in the NFL for the time he was with the Dolphins, or some similar stat. He's been remarkably productive, even without Brady. But I have no idea if he's hit that age when he's started to decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) When was the last time a team from one division traded their star player to another team in the same division? You think Belichick will want to face him twice a year? He's going to want to trade him to some team far far away so he doesn't have to deal with that mess. McNabb to redskins. Packers gave up on favre he went to vikes. It happens. Pats traded Milloy to bills, got blasted game 1, returned favor game 16, and won super bowl. Id settle for that. Bottom line I don't think teams are as hung up on this "don't trade within division" thing. You give up on a guy cut your best deal and move on. Let dopey jets overpay for the privilege of making him team captain week they play pats. Something tells me pats are bigger than that Edited September 23, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Pats traded Milloy to bills, got blasted game 1, returned favor game 16, and won super bowl. Except it did not happen that way - Milloy was CUT and Bills signed him; he was not traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 When was the last time a team from one division traded their star player to another team in the same division? You think Belichick will want to face him twice a year? He's going to want to trade him to some team far far away so he doesn't have to deal with that mess. Miami trading Wel-kah to NE? lol NE will trade him in a heartbeat if they got a decent pick in return. He's an UFA after the season and NE will not resign him. That's why they need to act now; by the time Nov rolls around no one is going to give up a pick for a guy that'll be a FA in two months. I'd say a 3d is as good as they'll do right now. Sure I'd like to have him in the Bills' lineup but I don't think he'll be worth the kind of money he's going to want in his new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Considering the best they could get for Moss was a 3rd rounder, that's likely all they'll get for Welker. But given Welker's age and salary demands, I don't see a trade happening. And certainly not within the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Except it did not happen that way - Milloy was CUT and Bills signed him; he was not traded. Would argue even more for them finding it attractive to get something in return for moving him in division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Welker is absolutely worth a 3 rounder. Just consider our last 10 yrs of 3rd rounders. It's not his size, his speed, but his change of direction, and football intelligence. He would automatically improve our team, and we would reap those rewards as well as inside info on the patsies for some time. I loved him in miami and he has been the most impactful and durable WR in the league. Not sexy like fitzy or megaton, but just keeps moving the chains. If it is only the system and Brady is the reason for his success, why is it when they benches him did they go backwards in offense this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 product of brady I know what you mean...but I think, in some ways, it is just as much the other way around. Welker was terrific with Miami... (some) people forget, before he went to New England, he was a very Tasker-esqe player for the fish... very high football IQ. I can't help but think not every guy of similar skills could accomplish what Welker has in New England...sure he benefited from Brady, but he certainly helped Brady a ton too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I know what you mean...but I think, in some ways, it is just as much the other way around. Welker was terrific with Miami... (some) people forget, before he went to New England, he was a very Tasker-esqe player for the fish... very high football IQ. I can't help but think not every guy of similar skills could accomplish what Welker has in New England...sure he benefited from Brady, but he certainly helped Brady a ton too. I was very surprised when Miami let him walk. Is that when they drafted ginn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 McNabb to redskins. Packers gave up on favre he went to vikes. It happens. Pats traded Milloy to bills, got blasted game 1, returned favor game 16, and won super bowl. Id settle for that. Bottom line I don't think teams are as hung up on this "don't trade within division" thing. You give up on a guy cut your best deal and move on. Let dopey jets overpay for the privilege of making him team captain week they play pats. Something tells me pats are bigger than that Favre was traded to the Jets, jets cut him and he signed with the vikes in FA. Milloy was a final cut after he couldnt be traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulfw Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Belicgick wouldn't be afraid to trade him to another team in the division. He's arrogant and thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsSD Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 McNabb to redskins. Packers gave up on favre he went to vikes. It happens. Pats traded Milloy to bills, got blasted game 1, returned favor game 16, and won super bowl. Id settle for that. Bottom line I don't think teams are as hung up on this "don't trade within division" thing. You give up on a guy cut your best deal and move on. Let dopey jets overpay for the privilege of making him team captain week they play pats. Something tells me pats are bigger than that You need to fact check, there are several easily noticeable errors there. I was very surprised when Miami let him walk. Is that when they drafted ginn? You seriously have to use google more or something, this is getting embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I was very surprised when Miami let him walk. Is that when they drafted ginn? New England poison pilled a deal for welker when he was RFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 New England poison pilled a deal for welker when he was RFA Poison pill contract was never signed but allegedly threatened forcing Miami's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo 66 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Buddy has to be at least thinking about it? http://sports.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981630246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I bet Welker would take a pay cut to stay with the Pats, rather than be traded to a non-contender if it came down to that. Dude's probably really hungry for a ring, and he knows his window of opportunity is closing. If he hits free agency after this season, that's a different story, since some contending team will likely pony up a reasonable offer for his services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I bet Welker would take a pay cut to stay with the Pats, rather than be traded to a non-contender if it came down to that. Dude's probably really hungry for a ring, and he knows his window of opportunity is closing. If he hits free agency after this season, that's a different story, since some contending team will likely pony up a reasonable offer for his services. Hey! Come to Busby's one of these Sundays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spillered The Beans Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 When was the last time a team from one division traded their star player to another team in the same division? You think Belichick will want to face him twice a year? He's going to want to trade him to some team far far away so he doesn't have to deal with that mess. Mcnabb to redskins even though it turrned out that he was done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Hey! Come to Busby's one of these Sundays... (Hmm, firefox seems to have eaten my reply. Try #2:) I'll definitely try to make it to Busby's for a game sometime this season, but right now it's hard for me even to make the games at Ixtapa. My 6yr old is in soccer Sunday a.m., and I'm helping coach the little rug-rats. I'm flying over to Pasadena right after practices, breaking a half-dozen traffic laws, just to catch the 2nd half of the Bills games. Santa Monica might as well be on the moon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) I bet Welker would take a pay cut to stay with the Pats, rather than be traded to a non-contender if it came down to that. Dude's probably really hungry for a ring, and he knows his window of opportunity is closing. If he hits free agency after this season, that's a different story, since some contending team will likely pony up a reasonable offer for his services. No chance he takes a discount to stay in NE. That relationship is over. He did them a favor by signing a tender early so he could show up to camp on time. They turned around and !@#$ed him up the ass. Not only that, but they were actively working to diminish his value on the open market till Hernandez got hurt. There is no chance Welker would sacrifice any personal gain to stay in NE. He already did that once and got screwed. He'll be a pro on the field this year but lets hope that bad blood permeates through the Pats locker room and they all get a taste of how they will be treated contractually once they are on the wrong side of 30. They have created a problem where one didnt exist. Edited September 23, 2012 by Thurmal34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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