BiggieScooby Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Yet another interview with no reason why weve failed for a 12th straight season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhockey Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Did you ever hear "Against all Odds"? So take a look at me now, 'cos there's just an empty space And there's nothing left here to remind me, just the memory of your face Take a look at me now, 'cos there's just an empty space And you coming back to me is against all odds and that's what I've got to face Maybe Buddy can dial up Jeff Bridges and add him to our offensive arsenal next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Yet another interview with no reason why weve failed for a 12th straight season. What would you have liked him to say? GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) I laughed when I read this article. Several more years to build? We need to have patience? Unbelievable. On a more substantive note, I do think that RW's views about our wide receivers and tight ends must also be the views shared by Nix. We should expect a wide receiver to be drafted early. I thought that Chandler was playing okay, but the comment about tight-ends getting injured was kind of interesting. I would not assume that Stevie will be back. They may think he is part of the problem and that they can upgrade. I hope this is not the case. The Bills have to address their defense. Mr. Wilson is right though. They could use an upgrade around Fitz. Specifically, a WR who can stretch the field. So March will be a big month for the Bills. They can get a speed WR in FA. If so they can use the draft for defense. If not, they need to go heavy in FA on defense. My bet? They re-sign Stevie AND grab another WR in FA. It's easier to grab one WR than several defensive pieces. Edited December 22, 2011 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Some days I think the "die hard" Bills fans from section whatever, seats 1-2 are going to B word and moan themselves right out of a NFL franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n3wyork13 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Really? Patience you wanna talk patience? Patience I mean cmon man its only ben 12 years that we have been "statring from scratch". i hate that old man period. fire away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) One day we may have an organization top to bottom that commits to putting together a consistently competitive team yearly. That isn't today....and next year ain't looking so good either. The "small market" excuse is beat. The Steelers/Packers have no problem doing this, because they have a commitment to winning. The Bills don't. It's not cause "the weather is bad, the economy sucks" or whatever tired excuse people wanna use. The Bills as an organization just do not seem overly concerned about putting together a team that can win. Just the bare minimum that "if healthy" can go 8-8 9-7 ish. As fans we're forced to accept it, cause there's really nothing we can do to change this philosophy. We've had more than a handful of above average players who've we let walk right out the door onto other teams. Players that were good enough to win with. Just "not good enough for Buffalo" smh Hope for the best but realistically expect the worst. It should be great next year when we avoid real issues draft a wr in the 1st rd to replace Steve Johnson and go "well in 2-3 years he'll be elite" as other pieces of the team continue to fall apart. The Bills conduct player personnel like they're nothing more than a minor league market for other teams. It's irritating to say the least Edited December 23, 2011 by Stealth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Really? Patience you wanna talk patience? Patience I mean cmon man its only ben 12 years that we have been "statring from scratch". i hate that old man period. fire away Link ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n3wyork13 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Link ? http://www.al.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/bc-fbn-bills-ralph-wilson-fbn/b5b31398efc54309b2db9ed99a3ecd09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 latest link to updated story. jw Thanks for the update, and keep up the great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsSD Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) You mad bro? Edited December 23, 2011 by BuffaloBillsSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) http://www.al.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/bc-fbn-bills-ralph-wilson-fbn/b5b31398efc54309b2db9ed99a3ecd09 "Wilson said his only message to fans was “patience” because he projects it’s going to take several more years to build a contender after the team essentially started from scratch two years ago under new general manager Buddy Nix and new coach Chan Gailey." I agree with you, OP. Several more years ? With no reference to his age, really which generation is he living in ? Which owner in todays age of free agency asks for another few years on top of the two that have already been spent ? The last thing he should be asking for is patience. Yes, I am willing to give the new regime another year but the Bills have sucked for the better part of this millennium. Edited December 23, 2011 by Fan in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Good stuff John. Sometimes I think you're the only one Ralph talks to in the media! I am not opposed to the Toronto extension and quite honestly given the Dec games at the Ralph over the past couple decades I think Ralph should make the stipulation that it be a December game being played there. Allow them to charge less but in return at least it is a sell out and the Bills can make some money.....granted not nearly as much as peope tend to state here. The deal was for $78M over 5 years for 8 games. The Bills usually make around $5M per game (at the Ralph) so $40M for those 8 games. So the Bills make an extra 7M per year roughly playing those games there. Even if it was only $5M per year extra it does help the team a bit. I personally think it really does not do much to generate Toronto's enthusiasm for the Bills. They would be better off having the players go to Southern Ontario and do appearances as So Ontario has a lot of Bills fans and they love coming to the games. They much more identify with the Bills and the Bills' fans thsn the population of Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 how much time does the old codger have ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo 66 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 My message to RW is that I have patience, I patiently sat through deplorable season after season and finally gave up my seasons last year and I'll wait for you and your team to earn my business back. Of course, I have no say on my annual tax donations you use to make your $25-$30 mil a year but I do have a say over what comes out of my bank account. Be patient Ralphie, I'll return when you're committed to winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 If I am 90+ years old the last thing I will ever want to think of is having patience. My Grandpa at 93 only began to relax and get "patient" and that was a mix of his demise. I am greatful for Ralph Wilson and happy he is a Bills fan but I do not want to be told he thinks we need to be patient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whateverdude Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Really? Patience you wanna talk patience? Patience I mean cmon man its only ben 12 years that we have been "statring from scratch". i hate that old man period. fire away What Uncle Scrooge Wilson meant was "patience" he's only a few 10 million dollars away from rowing a boat through his money in the bank vault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Ralph you ignorant slut!!! The BILLS Win! How about the Stadium??? Will our neighbors to the North pony up for updates/upgrades to RICH???? IF we don't get the local Stadium situation addessed WHERE will we play our real HOME GAMES??? Toronto OR Orchard Park??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 It was P&P Patience and Pain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Getting Fitz some more weapons means 2 things: 1. You actually have to keep the weapons you have, which means re-signing Stevie. This DOES NOT mean letting stevie go and drafting a WR in round 1 (which is what will happen this offseason). 2. This means you actually have to spend $ or a high pick on a legit TE. No more scrap heap reclamation projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 ralph doesnt know if he had tapioca or applesauce for dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Yet another interview with no reason why weve failed for a 12th straight season. Worse yet no reason too expect anything but the same next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I hate the Bills ! Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Ralph, I lost my patience 10 F-ing years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I would prefer to have all games in Orchard Park, but the Bills get great money from the Toronto series and that is what will help keep them in Buffalo long term so I am on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 One day we may have an organization top to bottom that commits to putting together a consistently competitive team yearly. That isn't today....and next year ain't looking so good either. The "small market" excuse is beat. The Steelers/Packers have no problem doing this, because they have a commitment to winning. The Bills don't. It's not cause "the weather is bad, the economy sucks" or whatever tired excuse people wanna use. The Bills as an organization just do not seem overly concerned about putting together a team that can win. Just the bare minimum that "if healthy" can go 8-8 9-7 ish. As fans we're forced to accept it, cause there's really nothing we can do to change this philosophy. We've had more than a handful of above average players who've we let walk right out the door onto other teams. Players that were good enough to win with. Just "not good enough for Buffalo" smh Hope for the best but realistically expect the worst. It should be great next year when we avoid real issues draft a wr in the 1st rd to replace Steve Johnson and go "well in 2-3 years he'll be elite" as other pieces of the team continue to fall apart. The Bills conduct player personnel like they're nothing more than a minor league market for other teams. It's irritating to say the least +1 Ralph Inc. keeps this team minimally competetive at the lowest possible price. Its'a all business. Good news is, things are so bad, he will have to inject some cash into personnel this offseason or risk losing significant season ticket revenue next year. ralph doesnt know if he had tapioca or applesauce for dinner. I'll bet Ralph is still pretty sharp. He puts one over on us every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 >>>>>We've got to get receivers. If he hasn't gotten anybody to throw to, he's not going to win many games,"<<<<< This is a very depressing statement by Mr. Wilson. It reminds one of Spiller "adding excitement." It also makes me want to not waste time thinking about the draft this season. Mr. Wilson is a genius. He knows JUST how to play to the crowd. There will be a horde of posters who would be thrilled with a first round receiver. And if it after 2 years he has a 2 touchdown game it will be the fans, not Mr. Wilson calling for "patience." And they will justify the idiotic selection. We will have a question mark at QB, no pass rush, and a dime store LT, but a shiny little new toy to sell tickets ala Spiller. This sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 It worked perfectly. The Bills made out like bandits moneywise. That's all it was about. Money. Establishing a base in Toronto with corporations and creating more fans. +1 I have to give credit to Ralph Inc. here. This team has more value with the Toronto deal. The Bills HAVE to expand the market for a buyer to consider keeping the team here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Patience, it's going to take some time to field a winner Buffalo Bills 2012 Season Tickets Now On Sale!!!!!! Buy Jerseys, Buy Gear, Buy Suites, Buy Advertising Feel The Charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) If you would hv told me when I turned 28 on the day that the Bills lost to Tennessee in the playoffs that they wouldn't make playoffs during my entire 30's I would hv said that's virtually impossible It really makes turning 40 in two weeks even worse You can't preach patience after 12 years, that's just ridiculous Edited December 23, 2011 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 The old man "didn't pay Fitz all that money for nothing" - in other words, we paid for him, so we're playing him. I love all this tough love. Patience. Surround him with more talent - runners and TE's who don't get hurt? Runners? What the @#$% is he talking about? Fred and Spiller are fine. A TE - sure. A couple WR's - good, too. But, if they pass on a Franchise caliber QB this year, then that means they'll probably finish next year somewhere near 8-8. No franchise QB then. After that - maybe 10-6 and an outside shot at a wildcard. No matter, though - cause Fitz isn't going to lead this team to a SuperBowl. I'm not going to sit through another 3 years of pathetic football, and accept these ridiculous excuses. For me, if the Bills don't get a QB worth being excited about next offseason - at the least to be ready to go in when Fitz falters, then I won't waste another Sunday afternoon on these scoundrels. We do have a choice in Buffalo. Every year for the last half decade I've heard, "we don't have a choice" - and, that is the feeling I get, the impression I get from the majority of people here in this area. They don't like Wilson's antics, they sure don't like Russ Brandon's attitude, nor any of the upper management's condescending talk of "patience" or any other b.s. excuse - as if we're so ignorant to not know what we're seeing - and, AS IF WE DONT HAVE A CHOICE! As long as we don't collectively call their bluff it is true. But, if the Ralph filled up to only 20-40 thousand seats for every home game next year, believe me - everyone would see. The national media would take the fans side here, if we collectively stopped supporting this miscreant owner. The NFL doesn't want a team that wont spend what it can to be competitive. I read another poster here say he was done until Ralph gave him something worth supporting. I'm there, too. He can be as "patient" as he wants - I just hope he loses money every year from now on that he tries to pass that b.s. on down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 we need to get Ralph laid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 >>>>>We've got to get receivers. If he hasn't gotten anybody to throw to, he's not going to win many games,"<<<<< This is a very depressing statement by Mr. Wilson. It reminds one of Spiller "adding excitement." It also makes me want to not waste time thinking about the draft this season. Mr. Wilson is a genius. He knows JUST how to play to the crowd. There will be a horde of posters who would be thrilled with a first round receiver. And if it after 2 years he has a 2 touchdown game it will be the fans, not Mr. Wilson calling for "patience." And they will justify the idiotic selection. We will have a question mark at QB, no pass rush, and a dime store LT, but a shiny little new toy to sell tickets ala Spiller. This sucks. I hear you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 The Toronto series has been an EPIC FAIL. Why renew something that didn't work? They don't want us and we don't want them. They got millions so it worked for them. Hey Ralph, either you chose a really bad time to tell us this or you just liking screwing with us. Gosh I hate this guy more and more everyday. Why is now bad timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I will return my attention when RW's dead....simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 hes been dead for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 >>>>>We've got to get receivers. If he hasn't gotten anybody to throw to, he's not going to win many games,"<<<<< This is a very depressing statement by Mr. Wilson. It reminds one of Spiller "adding excitement." It also makes me want to not waste time thinking about the draft this season. Mr. Wilson is a genius. He knows JUST how to play to the crowd. There will be a horde of posters who would be thrilled with a first round receiver. And if it after 2 years he has a 2 touchdown game it will be the fans, not Mr. Wilson calling for "patience." And they will justify the idiotic selection. We will have a question mark at QB, no pass rush, and a dime store LT, but a shiny little new toy to sell tickets ala Spiller. This sucks. More receivers? Maybe someone should remind Ralph that Littman traded Evans for a 4th rounder and is about to let Johnson walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) For those thinking there'd be big changes this year, I guess not. Continuity in 2008-09 as the excuse has been changed to patience 2011-12. The result just happens to be the same or worse. Edited December 23, 2011 by BillsVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I've heard Ralph Wilson called every insulting, derogatory thing in the book - this is the first thread I've read calling him a slut though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I am starting to understand my father's hate for Ralphie. He never got to see the 90s team. Ralph don't ruin it for 2 generations, please. As for the TO series, it is just unAmerican. Seriously. Do you have any idea how much I hate the Leafs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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