Arkady Renko Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) NFL Commish tells fans about a possible plan for the Bills after Ralph. No specifics but he says he doesn't think team will leave Buffalo. http://twitter.com/#!/paulpeck4 Edited October 9, 2011 by johnnyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Sorry, that page doesn’t exist! is what I got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Works for me. Sorry... search for @paulpeck4. Actual quote isn't as promising in my opinion: NFL Commissioner expressed confidence in the future of the franchise in a conversation with select fans at Ralph Wilson Stadium, according to WKBW-TV. Goodell: "(Owner Ralph Wilson, Jr.) has what he thinks are the right steps for the team. We will obviously work with him and the team to fulfill his wishes. I know he will do, and we are confident we will do, what is in the best interest of this community and the NFL ... I think that's being taken care of." http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15710878 http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2011/10/goodell-stresses-rws-upgrades.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Fbuffalonews%2Fbillboard+%28BillBoard%29 Additional quotes. Good thing: Goodell doesn't seem to think that a new stadium is a requirement anymore. Before, he has indicated to the contrary. Edited October 9, 2011 by johnnyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Did Sir Roger say anything about this succession plan (I thought Ralph didn't have one?) involving "selling the team to the highest bidder?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Terrence M. Pegula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I wonder if the timing is related to Al Davis' passing, putting the spotlight on Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I wonder if the timing is related to Al Davis' passing, putting the spotlight on Ralph chad kelly tweeted earlier this week that something regarding the bills was going down this weekend. i think this was in the work's before Al's passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Although Buffalo has been declining, the revenue for the Bills is still there it doesn't make sense that they would be first on the list to relocate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) @papa, True,. Sounds like the news is Ralph is agreeing to a new long term lease at the Ralph without any mods. But maybe Goodell is here figuring he needs to stay on top of things realizing these old owners could go at any minute post Davis Edited October 9, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Terrence M. Pegula Pegula is at the game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Pegula is at the game today. If true, interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Did Godell name Chad Kelly the new owner? I think that's he was hinting at on Twitter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 If true, interesting. Well the daughter tweeted she is at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Well the daughter tweeted she is at least. Well, you did say "Pegula is at the game," and didn't specify Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Terrence M. Pegula :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 If Pegula were to buy the Bills, I think we need to offer him a blood sacrifice. Or at least a few virgins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I doubt Pegula is the primary player in the purchase of the Bills. I think Golisano would be more likely. I could see Pegula playing a secondary role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Although Buffalo has been declining, the revenue for the Bills is still there it doesn't make sense that they would be first on the list to relocate We just brought 400 works back to the Ford stamping plant . They actually said they were doing reverse outsourcing (odd way to say it) but didn't say why, Maybe cheap labor isn't cracked up to whay it is supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Works for me. Sorry... search for @paulpeck4. Actual quote isn't as promising in my opinion: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15710878 http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboard/2011/10/goodell-stresses-rws-upgrades.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Fbuffalonews%2Fbillboard+%28BillBoard%29 Additional quotes. Good thing: Goodell doesn't seem to think that a new stadium is a requirement anymore. Before, he has indicated to the contrary. The actual quote sounds pretty good to me. Much better than anything we've heard before it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 If true, interesting. Yeah, fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Well the daughter tweeted she is at least. maybe Terry is buying his daughter a gift...and "thee new man" is really a woman ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Goodell Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 You fans have nothing to worry about. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Let me get this straight. Goodell said nothing and everyone is excited? Wait, there's another Chad KElly tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clancynut Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Goodell did mention that he feels that Southern Ontario and WNY is all region. If that is the case could the NFL want to make sure the Bills remain where they are since there are approximately 15 million people between Toronto-Buffalo-Rochester? Quote:To us, it’s all one region,” said Goodell. “While western New Yorkers might not think of it that way, it’s helping make this market be successful here by bringing fans down from Southern Ontario. So we want to continue to encourage that.” Edited October 10, 2011 by clancynut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Did Sir Roger say anything about this succession plan (I thought Ralph didn't have one?) involving "selling the team to the highest bidder?" In my personal opinion, part of Goodell's job is to make fans feel good about the NFL in general and their team in particular. If you drill down through all the nice-sounding but fairly ambiguous NFL promotion with a critical eye, you find this little gem buried in an article that repeats Goodell's "Feel good about your team" talking points: http://niagara-gazette.com/sports/x1038034921/Commish-inspires-Buffalo-fans-to-keep-Bill-lievin When reporters huddled around him after the fan forum, Goodell backtracked from his implication that Wilson has shared a succession plan with him. The commish said he could offer no assurances, but that he was confident the Bills would stay put if the community continues to do its part. My translation - - "I don't have a clue about what Ralph plans to do with the team after he's gone, but you should feel good about the NFL in general and the Bills in particular." If an announcement about a long term renewal of the Bills' stadium lease is made, as expected, we need to take a long hard look at not just the duration of the lease, but what kind of buy-out provision it contains (the current lease has one). I've read that Ralph is not asking for significant stadium improvements in the present lease negotiations. That doesn't sound like Ralph to me. Just my speculation, but maybe Ralph is looking to get a less onerous lease buy-out provision in return for not seeking significant stadium improvements. Or slightly less ominously, maybe he's seeking approval for additional regular season games in Toronto. Again, just my speculation, but if Ralph is in a position to ask the County and/or State to spend money on stadium improvements (with LA building a new stadium), yet Ralph is not asking for such improvements, my guess is he's asking for something else instead. Wonder what it is? Edit: Just read this Buffalo Evening News story: http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/article588078.ece Bills owner Ralph C. Wilson Jr. made similar comments in an interview with The Buffalo News a couple of weeks ago. Wilson said that the stadium needs some significant upgrades to its structural support, in addition to some cosmetic improvements, and that the state and county will have to remain partners with the Bills in a new lease agreement. The Bills' current lease runs out in July 2013. On September 18th, the Buffalo Evening News ran a story that characterized the stadium improvements sought by Wilson as "modest" and "fundamental." http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/article560879.ece Not sure what to make of the recharacterization of desired stadium improvements to "significant," but I still think that Goodell has no clue what Ralph's plans are for selling the team after he's gone. Edited October 10, 2011 by ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Neither Jim Kelly nor Roger Goodell seem to think there's much chance at all of the Bills leaving Buffalo. Be at peace, Bills nation. This team is staying right where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 So basically for the Bills to stay in Buffalo three things are needed: 1). Obviously, a new owner who will not move the team 2). Continued fan support (which will never cease) 3). $75-100 million in stadium renovations - Where does the money come from? I'll attempt to show how stupid I am. As of 2010, Erie County has an estimated taxable population of roughly 321,664. In order finance $100 million worth of renovations to the Ralph, approx $311.00 will come from each of the taxpayers. Spread that out over the lifetime of a new lease which will most likely be 10 years, you come up with about $31 per year,per taxpayer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right, $31/year to keep the Bills in Buffalo for another 10 years sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 So basically for the Bills to stay in Buffalo three things are needed: 1). Obviously, a new owner who will not move the team 2). Continued fan support (which will never cease) 3). $75-100 million in stadium renovations - Where does the money come from? I'll attempt to show how stupid I am. As of 2010, Erie County has an estimated taxable population of roughly 321,664. In order finance $100 million worth of renovations to the Ralph, approx $311.00 will come from each of the taxpayers. Spread that out over the lifetime of a new lease which will most likely be 10 years, you come up with about $31 per year,per taxpayer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right, $31/year to keep the Bills in Buffalo for another 10 years sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Can't the rest of NY state help out as well? After all, didn't all of us upstaters help fund MetLife Stadium in NJ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 So basically for the Bills to stay in Buffalo three things are needed: 1). Obviously, a new owner who will not move the team 2). Continued fan support (which will never cease) 3). $75-100 million in stadium renovations - Where does the money come from? I'll attempt to show how stupid I am. As of 2010, Erie County has an estimated taxable population of roughly 321,664. In order finance $100 million worth of renovations to the Ralph, approx $311.00 will come from each of the taxpayers. Spread that out over the lifetime of a new lease which will most likely be 10 years, you come up with about $31 per year,per taxpayer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right, $31/year to keep the Bills in Buffalo for another 10 years sounds like a pretty good deal to me. those are 300,000 + potential taxpayers. many who are in poverty and are tax receivers(to a large extent) and not taxpayers. so i dont think they will be paying their share.you are also figuring payments over 10 years. is this money going to be interest free? if you finance 100 mil over 10 yrs you will pay nearly double that amt. and half the people you claim will be paying it. so figure 150/yr per taxpayer. this in an economy where govt employee pensions are grossly underfunded and still sucking the life out of taxpayers already. let the billionaires and millionaires who are buying this team and who stand to make great revenue pony up the bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Can't the rest of NY state help out as well? After all, didn't all of us upstaters help fund MetLife Stadium in NJ??? I don't think any NYS Money went into the financing of MetLife Stadium. However there is the matter of two brand new baseball stadiums being built in NYC, both which received public funds. The other issue is will the NYS Senate and Assembly agree to financing upgrades a private football stadium when budget cuts are forcing the layoffs of teachers and cuts to other services. During last year budget talks there was an article about an assemblywoman downstate being upset about the Bills receiving state money. Sorry could not find the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvrOfficiousJerk Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I don't think any NYS Money went into the financing of MetLife Stadium. However there is the matter of two brand new baseball stadiums being built in NYC, both which received public funds. The other issue is will the NYS Senate and Assembly agree to financing upgrades a private football stadium when budget cuts are forcing the layoffs of teachers and cuts to other services. During last year budget talks there was an article about an assemblywoman downstate being upset about the Bills receiving state money. Sorry could not find the link. Here's the link you were talking about: http://www.wgrz.com/news/investigative/youpaidforit/story.aspx?storyid=65435&catid=220 Also, speaking of the MetLife stadium construction, can ANYONE verify if NYS funds were used? John Murphy explictly said as much (that NYS paid for the building) during last year's season finale, and I'd like someone who can know for sure. Even if it's false I think it'd be pretty cool to make it a trope to work in the Bills' favor. Say something that's patently false but say it enough times so it becomes true. That's why I love politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 So basically for the Bills to stay in Buffalo three things are needed: 1). Obviously, a new owner who will not move the team 2). Continued fan support (which will never cease) 3). $75-100 million in stadium renovations - Where does the money come from? I'll attempt to show how stupid I am. As of 2010, Erie County has an estimated taxable population of roughly 321,664. In order finance $100 million worth of renovations to the Ralph, approx $311.00 will come from each of the taxpayers. Spread that out over the lifetime of a new lease which will most likely be 10 years, you come up with about $31 per year,per taxpayer. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm right, $31/year to keep the Bills in Buffalo for another 10 years sounds like a pretty good deal to me. #1 Done and that's all I'm saying. #2 Done even with a losing team, we, the customers have shown great support during the dry years. #3 Try $150 million. NYS helped in the funding of 2 baseball stadiums downstate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I like #1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 #1 Done and that's all I'm saying. I think this article and Chad kelly's tweet about some it up... WGR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 If Pegula were to buy the Bills, I think we need to offer him a blood sacrifice. Or at least a few virgins. Good Luck finding any of those around.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I doubt Pegula is the primary player in the purchase of the Bills. I think Golisano would be more likely. I could see Pegula playing a secondary role. And to what exactly are you basing your speculation on? Golisano?....meh, I don't think so - we all see how that Sabres thing worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 You fans have nothing to worry about. Trust me. Bah! Humbug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OP Class75 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 There is also a rumor that Jim Kelley tailgated with George Gillet, former owner of the Canadiens....I hope like H311 this guy Gillet has nothing to do with the Bills...he sounds like pure sleeze!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 There is also a rumor that Jim Kelley tailgated with George Gillet, former owner of the Canadiens....I hope like H311 this guy Gillet has nothing to do with the Bills...he sounds like pure sleeze!!!! Rumor has it, kelly was out of town last weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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