Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 There was another article linking the entirety of "Bruschi's Breakdown" on NE vs Buff I thought this snippet deserved its own thread Tedy: You have to be ready for a shootout Sunday. Fitzpatrick is a good quarterback who is decisive. I love the way he sees it, makes the read, and delivers the ball. As a defense, you look at him and say "He's going to throw us a couple every game." So you have to take advantage of that. They may hit you in the hands, and it's whether you catch it or not that can turn the game. This is an offensive team that you want to steal possessions from. They're going to go up and down the field on this Patriots defense, but just like last week against the Chargers, those big plays will be needed on defense. Fitzpatrick is the type of quarterback, even though he has done some great things these last two weeks, who will give a defense the chance to make those plays. Translation: Bring it, Fitz. You'll sling some picks. You'll toss them right at our DBs, and we know our D can earn points off you Talk about damning a QB with praise. It can not be denied that last week, Fitz threw one pick and two passes that could have been picked (Campbell also had some lucky escapes). I hope, if any is needed, this will be "bulletin board fodder" for Fitz and the Bills. I hope Fitz takes it to heart that this is one aspect where he can really improve his game - not eliminate INTs, but decrease them to a point where a tool like Tedy can't reasonably prate about Fitz being "the type of quarterback that is going to throw the defense a couple every game" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) In the past this was spot on. Certaonly got away with a few in raiders game. Overall I think fitz is showing some improvement early in the season. Let's hope be keeps it up. Edited September 23, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 This game will come down to turnovers. Whichever team gets more takeaways and more possessions will win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Please please please stick it to those overconfident egomaniacs. Like Kyle Williams said, let's give em hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 In the past this was spot on. Certaonly got away with a few in raiders game. Overall I think fitz is showing some improvement early in the season. Let's hope be keeps it up. Some luck but mainly greater awareness defensively by our WRs saved us around 3 to 4 ints thusfar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Did Bruschi say anything that hasn't already been said by fans here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) @blad good point. Id feel more comfortable if it were all from Fitz improvement! But seriously he may be losing some of the erraticness Edited September 23, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I've always hated Bruschi, but his assesment is dead on balls accurate lol. That's Fitz in a nutshell right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 If the bills aren't motivated to beat pats* this week they never will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Some luck but mainly greater awareness defensively by our WRs saved us around 3 to 4 ints thusfar. I will admit (not happy) this to be true, but actually that is a smart way to play football. very good point. And this makes us/Fitz a Much better offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) I will admit (not happy) this to be true, but actually that is a smart way to play football. very good point. And this makes us/Fitz a Much better offense. DBs aren't WRs because they don't have good hands. Odds are in your favor to challenge them Edited September 23, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 and they can back pedal like heck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Bruschi is right but is a terrible analyst. Him and Brooks need to start a tv show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Outside of Brady, who never seems to throw picks, a lot of the best QBs have been high risk/high reward guys... look at Kelly, Favre, etc. they might throw 2 or 3 picks in a game, but you also knew they could bring their team back to win the game. Compare that to a Trent Edwards or Rob Johnson...whose interception percentage was spectacular, but if the team got down was there any chance they would lead a big comeback? My heart was definitely in my throat on a few of those passes (TD to Chandler, near INT in endzone that Jones swatted away), but this offense is starting to have that 90s Bills swagger, where you never count them out and that's due to Fitz taking those risks. I'll take that any day over a guy who's afraid to let it fly, so we go three and out more often than not. Edited September 23, 2011 by folz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 His TD to INT ratio as the Bills starting QB is 30 to 16....that's mostly with very little protection last year too. That certainly isn't anything to waggle a finger at...in fact its down right good. I'm pretty positive Fitz's tendency to throw picks is being way overplayed by the national media at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Outside of Brady, who never seems to throw picks, a lot of the best QBs have been high risk/high reward guys... look at Kelly, Favre, etc. they might throw 2 or 3 picks in a game, but you also knew they could bring their team back to win the game. Compare that to a Trent Edwards or Rob Johnson...whose interception percentage was spectacular, but if the team got down was there any chance they would lead a big comeback? My heart was definitely in my throat on a few of those passes (TD to Chandler, near INT in endzone that Jones swatted away), but this offense is starting to have that 90s Bills swagger, where you never count them out and that's due to Fitz taking those risks. I'll take that any day over a guy who's afraid to let it fly, so we go three and out more often than not. I couldn't agree with you more man! Fitzpatrick is a risk taker that's for sure, but we are a team that needs to take risks to win. Sorry Bruschi if Our QB hasn't had the privilege to play under the same head coach and same system his whole NFL career. I think that type of security and knowledge for a system might just help a little bit. One thing is always true, There's rarely a chance to have a prime reward if you don't take any risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Bruschi is just bitter because Brady basically told him to STFU… also because he's been bitter since he was a little boy and someone stole a "d" from his first name. It's tough going through life as Tedy when you're name is supposed to be Teddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 every qb in the league throws potential picks. theres 2-3 elite ones that throw very few, but everybody else including the probowl level ones put balls up that could be picked once again, bruschi is a half-jerk, half-dick, possible half-pudwad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 the bottom line is if the defense doesnt step up and falls behind.....Fitz will take more chances. I thought Fitz took a LOT less chances against the Chiefs.....but we were playing from a domt position the whole game..... We were down big fitz need to make something happen he succeeded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's stuff like this that just reminds YE OLE how badly we need this one Sunday. It's a decade of Tedy Bruschi, Belichick, Brady, and everyone associated with that organization that exudes this kind of arrogance. Fitzpatrick has the ability to rip New England's secondary a new on on Sunday. We know it and they know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Outside of Brady, who never seems to throw picks, a lot of the best QBs have been high risk/high reward guys... look at Kelly, Favre, etc. they might throw 2 or 3 picks in a game, but you also knew they could bring their team back to win the game. Compare that to a Trent Edwards or Rob Johnson...whose interception percentage was spectacular, but if the team got down was there any chance they would lead a big comeback? My heart was definitely in my throat on a few of those passes (TD to Chandler, near INT in endzone that Jones swatted away), but this offense is starting to have that 90s Bills swagger, where you never count them out and that's due to Fitz taking those risks. I'll take that any day over a guy who's afraid to let it fly, so we go three and out more often than not. I Hear That! And one of the keys for Kelly was that his WR would all, to a man, defend - if they couldn't catch it, by g*d the DB wasn't getting it either! Last year, Fitz didn't get a lot of help from the receivers on that. This year, it's good to see nice defense. But still....Fitz, a nice win, with a side order of Crow for Bruschi, would sure be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) There was another article linking the entirety of "Bruschi's Breakdown" on NE vs Buff I thought this snippet deserved its own thread Tedy: You have to be ready for a shootout Sunday. Fitzpatrick is a good quarterback who is decisive. I love the way he sees it, makes the read, and delivers the ball. As a defense, you look at him and say "He's going to throw us a couple every game." So you have to take advantage of that. They may hit you in the hands, and it's whether you catch it or not that can turn the game. This is an offensive team that you want to steal possessions from. They're going to go up and down the field on this Patriots defense, but just like last week against the Chargers, those big plays will be needed on defense. Fitzpatrick is the type of quarterback, even though he has done some great things these last two weeks, who will give a defense the chance to make those plays. Translation: Bring it, Fitz. You'll sling some picks. You'll toss them right at our DBs, and we know our D can earn points off you Talk about damning a QB with praise. It can not be denied that last week, Fitz threw one pick and two passes that could have been picked (Campbell also had some lucky escapes). I hope, if any is needed, this will be "bulletin board fodder" for Fitz and the Bills. I hope Fitz takes it to heart that this is one aspect where he can really improve his game - not eliminate INTs, but decrease them to a point where a tool like Tedy can't reasonably prate about Fitz being "the type of quarterback that is going to throw the defense a couple every game" Bruschi is an idiot, who hopefully someone someday jams their "Happy Sock" in his mouth, but with this statement he is actually quite accurate. Of course there are always exceptions, as in anything, but even on Fitz's best games he usually throws 2-3 passes right to the defender. Against Oakland, that number was probably 5-6 times, but luckily they didn't catch but one of them. Fitz is a smart QB, and rarely makes the wrong decision, but he doesn't always execute great. What I mean is, you won't find a smarter QB, who plays any harder then him in the NFL, but at times his physical tools are limited or don't execute like his brain is telling them too. Edited September 23, 2011 by billsfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Anyone who has a problem with this statement from Bruschi is searching for a reason to be pissed at the guy. Although I loathe Bruschi, his analysis is spot on. He said the Bills will move the ball up and down the field on the Patriots- that is certainly high praise. He said Fitzpatrick will fire a couple duds that could be intercepted. Anyone who has watched this guy knows that is obviously the case. What is there to dispute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Another great QB used to chuck up those INTs...Brett Favre. He made up for it by scoring even more TDs. You just have to expect that may happen with Fitz. The guy throws into coverage but expects our guys to fight for the catch. That's Fitzmagic as opposed to Dickless Jauron's play-not-to-lose style. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I've always hated Bruschi, but his assesment is dead on balls accurate lol. That's Fitz in a nutshell right there. It is, but not necessarily every week. Fitz, as smart as he is, is getting smarter, AND he is being coached by an intellectual type. I am not saying it will happen, but we can win this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Anyone who has a problem with this statement from Bruschi is searching for a reason to be pissed at the guy. Although I loathe Bruschi, his analysis is spot on. He said the Bills will move the ball up and down the field on the Patriots- that is certainly high praise. He said Fitzpatrick will fire a couple duds that could be intercepted. Anyone who has watched this guy knows that is obviously the case. What is there to dispute? Look at the original post. The point of the OP was not to dispute Bruschi's analysis. It was to ask Fitz to take it to heart, prove Bruschi wrong this week, and not gift-wrap the INT for the Patsies. There are many teams in the league where, with decent defense, an INT should not matter that much. The D will get a stop, we'll get the ball back. Or maybe give up 3 and get the ball back. (the problem last year was our run defense couldn't stop a schoolchild in a crosswalk) The Patriots are not one of those teams. Giving up an INT to the Pats is like gift-wrapping 7. Ask the Chargers. The Pats didn't win that game. Rivers gift-wrapped 17 points and delivered them to the Pats side of the scoreboard. That's a possible game-changing difference of 38 points (17 less for Pats, 21 more for Chargers). I like Philip Rivers but it's true. Fitz - this week, if you can possibly help it, please don't be That Guy. Or at most one. Not two or three. Edited September 23, 2011 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 He is right.... probably can't turn the ball over once against the Pats and expect to win. It has to be a great performance on offense and while making some big plays on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARCO186 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Fitz can't be in competition with Brady. The bottom line is Brady is a great qb and Fitz is good. That being said Fitz can take Buffalo down the field and the Bills can and will win. The reason is turnovers and luck. I think Fitz will throw an int or two. I think this game, the Defense and special teams are the ones who beat the pats. Fitz and his arm and the offense can't do it alone. brady will get sacked a few times. Remember Wanny was the defensive coordinator in dallas when cheatashit was with the giants. He knows how this guy is and they have a history. Chan also knows him when he was with pittsburgh. The coaching staff will have their work cut out and will have a great game plan set for this. The Bills defense is better than the pats and special teams are also. They will have the Amish Rifles back on this and we pull it out 31-28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 He is right.... probably can't turn the ball over once against the Pats and expect to win. It has to be a great performance on offense and while making some big plays on D. You are correct. Over his past 18 games, Brady has 43 TDs and just 5 picks, so Fitz really needs to refrain from throwing even a single one this weekend for us to have a chance. One of the biggest keys in my opinion is going to be whether or not we can figure out how to get pressure on Brady. Watching him last week against SD, he was given all day to find a receiver, and any QB, much less one of the greatest to ever play, is going to find an open reciever 99% of the time when given all day to look for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I've always hated Bruschi, but his assesment is dead on balls accurate lol. That's Fitz in a nutshell right there. It's pretty accurate for any QB in the league. Watch any game and both QBs will have a throw or two that has a legit chance of being picked. Those few errant passes don't concern me, it's the other 95% of the passes that I've been really impressed with Fitz thus far. His accuracy is much, much better than last year and as much as I've heard NFL pundits play up the "gunslinger" angle on Fitz this week his game against the Raiders was very Brady-esque. Short passes near the chains or with his WRs running free in the middle of the field, just taking whatever the D would give him. I'm impressed, even if he does throw a few ducks a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Some luck but mainly greater awareness defensively by our WRs saved us around 3 to 4 ints thusfar. yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_franchise Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I wonder if Douchi would suggest starting Ochocinco in my FFL this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's not like Brady doesn't have a few potential picks dropped a game. Just need to make the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Our defense has to win this game. If comes down to a shoot out the Patriots are really good at it. We put up some good numbers so far this year but asking Fitz to throw guys open and take too many chances for the win is a recipe for failure. Our defense can't let the Pats rack up 30, 40 something points and EXPECT our offense to keep pace. Can our offense keep pace? They have shown they are capable but it should not be relied upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 bruschi seems to talk alot of smack for a retired player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 bruschi seems to talk alot of smack for a retired player. The slide to irrelevancy carries a foul odor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 "Bruschi's Breakdown" I'm a moron with my fat head up my Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 He threw the Raiders 3, they only caught 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Our defense has to win this game. If comes down to a shoot out the Patriots are really good at it. We put up some good numbers so far this year but asking Fitz to throw guys open and take too many chances for the win is a recipe for failure. Our defense can't let the Pats rack up 30, 40 something points and EXPECT our offense to keep pace. Can our offense keep pace? They have shown they are capable but it should not be relied upon. Actually it may be a shoot out like our game against raiders. In this case every possession is like the serve in tennis; if hold yours and the opponent loses theirs just once you win. In 2nd half against raiders we "held serve" by scoring a TD on all 5 possessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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