bills1960 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 How badly injured is he to fall out of the first round? is he worth our pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl malones other son Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 was just about to post. i want him. holy crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Cowher Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 WORTH THE RISK!!!! PLEASE DON'T TAKE HIM PATS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 If his injury is what is reported, bone on bone in his knee then his career could be very short and injury plagued...that is a very serious condition and that is why he is slipping. Hopefully our team doctors checked him out, and if they feel it isnt as bad as the rumors, then I will be very happy grabbing him even though I want a QB. In fact, you have to grab him over a QB here if our doctors think he can overcome the knee stuff. But, everything I heard is that many teams dont have him anywhere on their board as it was that bad. I still want Mallet at 2, but would be almost equally ecstatic if we grab Bowers and would hope his knee isnt as bad as feared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I'm hoping bowers as well now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Or we sure up that Line... With mr.taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Clearly, if he was a #1 talent, all 32 teams thought he was a big risk. Add that to the fact he doesn't fit our system and I ask, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Sometimes teams get scared....and other teams. Have other needsmmand some times to guys that were projected in the 2nd rd... Big risk, only because of health...but he can do to every team needs depth... Personally I like Ayers, reed or houston... I'd rather stick with the defensive theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saundena Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 .... Could, but I don't think we will. There's a greater possibility of us selecting Kaepernick, Mallet or Rudolph. Your scenario would be interesting though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Oh and he didn't visit every team and he didn't do a ton of personal work outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep2Moulds46 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Im obviously intrigued by Bowers, but I just fear that his knee is bone on bone. I'd rather go for the solid starting type player in Akeem Ayers who stands a much better chance of being a long term answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We B 4 Da Billz Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I can't believe he may be there for our pick, it would be a real steal. Reading everything I can on the net about his knee, I don't think it's as bad as rumors have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I remember another player back in 1988 that fell into the 2nd round because of health concerns and he went to 4 straight super bowls and the hall of fame. Rememder Thurman Thomas anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Clearly, if he was a #1 talent, all 32 teams thought he was a big risk. Add that to the fact he doesn't fit our system and I ask, why? Considering he can play end in a 4-3 or 3-4, how does he not fit in the Bills system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 A few weeks/months ago if you were looking at most mocks they had 3 guys within the top 5 picks on the DL. Bowers Dareus Fairly would yo ever imagine that the Bills could have the chance to take 2 of them? Talk about fixing up your pass rush and run defense. If the Bills take Bowers, dare I say that many of the so called experts would say we had one of the best drafts of 2011 (that's hard to even imagine considering the lack of rspect we get from the rest of the sports world). Can you imagine this? 3/4: DE- Bowers/Carrington DT- Williams/Dareus/Troupe DE- Dareus/Williams 4/3: DE- Bowers/Carrington DT- Williams/Troupe DT- Dareus/Troupe DE- Kelsey/Carrington I know he has the knee issue, but he was projectd to be a potential 1st overal pick before all this. I'm not saying he is recovered or think for sure that he will, but would t it be worth it to get him an entire round after he was projected? Does anyone know what the $$ was for the 34th pick last year? Is it worth it to take a chance? IF.... Bowers is still there at 34, do you want to pick him? I would have opened a vote but I'm unable to do that from my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Back in January and February, the consensus top 3 D-linemen were Fairley, Dareus, and Bowers. It would be quite remarkable if we ended up drafting two of them without having to move up to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 The fact that he was talked about as a potential #1 pick and yet 32 teams passed on him worries me a bunch. So I'd rather go with someone who may not be out of the league in 3 years because he only has one leg to walk on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 As odd as this sounds ... If the Patsies dont take him then I seriously question the pick. I think he was over hyped I want Mallett at 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 gonna see how big those balls are in Nix and Gailey have... Bowers is a risk...but the reward is so huge...even if he doesn't give us 7 years...or we play it safe with Ayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 The Bills have invested heavy resources into their DL and need to improve elsewhere as well. Bowers was rumored to require microfracture surgery and while that's not concrete, there are other options available at 34 like...Kyle Rudolph who might finally give the offense a player who can run the seam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 IF the pats pass on Bowers we shouldn't..he's just too good! .... NO ones blames us if he doesn't workout...this is a once in a life time oppurity for this organization.... If bowers is able ..we could end up with a pair a lineman that could change everything ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Considering he can play end in a 4-3 or 3-4, how does he not fit in the Bills system? Nope. You do realize that'd be a "if he adds weight" or "if he drops weight" situation, not a switch back and forth play by play situation. We have our 34 ends, and I'd venture won't play enough 43 to be worth the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 We'll see. There's just a ton of talent left to be upset over not picking a specific player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 would be a awesome pick. and it should be him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 IF the pats pass on Bowers we shouldn't..he's just too good! .... NO ones blames us if he doesn't workout...this is a once in a life time oppurity for this organization.... If bowers is able ..we could end up with a pair a lineman that could change everything ... I completely agree. We could end up with 3 star caliber players across the line with Bowers/Williams/Dareus, and yes that would change everything. I realize Bowers is a roll of the dice, but at 34 you take it. If he pans out, our d-line could go from a major weakness to an absolute ass kicking machine. If you can win in the trenches you can turn things around quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 A different type of Da'Quan Bowers post... very impressive young man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQwgGup2JS0 P.S. - YE OLE believes we NEED this guy at 34! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 NICE !! I'm all for it if we're 100% certain his knee or whatever is OK. If we're not, then pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Bowers as a 4-3 DE and as a 3-4 OLB is intriguing to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 NICE !! I'm all for it if we're 100% certain his knee or whatever is OK. If we're not, then pass. Agreed. There's definitely some risk, but I think this kid's upside far outweighs it. Here's another interview they did with him a week or so ago, he comes across as a very genuine young man. I'm definitely rooting for him. I hope we end up with him as a Bill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lip0BsrBxNg&feature=relmfu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUFF Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I have some questions about Bowers that im sure some of you on this board can answer: 1. Does anyone know the extent of his knee injury? I know that he may have a degenerative knee problem, but im not sure exactly what that means. Does it mean that 5 years from now his knee will be shot? if so is the second round a good value for a 5yr. player that was ranked in the top 5 of this draft class? 2. Does he fit our 3-4 scheme? (i know he was a 4-3 player) where would he play? I apologize if this was posted already...but this inquiring mind wants to know. also with the addition of Dareus what does our front line look like (kyle-?troup?-dareus)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Reportedly has a bone on bone condition in one knee. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 A little over 20 years ago the Buffalo Bills took a chance on an injured running back in the second round of the draft that many considered an elite talent with health concerns. What's the man's name, you ask? Thurman Thomas! Take a chance Buffalo, we've squandered second round picks on guys with much less talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 A little over 20 years ago the Buffalo Bills took a chance on an injured running back in the second round of the draft that many considered an elite talent with health concerns. What's the man's name, you ask? Thurman Thomas! Take a chance Buffalo, we've squandered second round picks on guys with much less talent. No one knows how Bowers knee condition compares to Thurman's. Therefore, the comparison doesn't make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Unless our medical staff thinks his knee is trashed I say we have to take him if he's there. Without the injury the guy is a legitimate top 5 talent. If he comes back from that knee injury he's a complete steal at #34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 If his cartilage is shot there is no coming back. It would be a wasted pick. You think no one else knows his skill level? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Could have been a pre-draft smokescreen, but: April 10, 2011 - 3:40 PM ET The Bills' team doctor reportedly cleared Clemson DE Da'Quan Bowers' surgically repaired knee last week. This report allays concerns that the knee is in much worse condition than the Bowers camp has let on. Bowers reportedly had a "great meeting" with the Bills, and sources tell Yahoo's Doug Farrar that Denver and Buffalo are still interested. Though Farrar cautioned to take his report with a grain of salt, he also noted the Titans made it clear to Bowers that they would grab him at No. 8 if he's still on the board. The results of Bowers' medical recheck Friday in Indianapolis have not yet been released. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/42521803/ns/sports-player_news/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMan Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) If his cartilage is shot there is no coming back. It would be a wasted pick. You think no one else knows his skill level? PTR Exactly right Promo. If it's a tendon, muscle tear, or even a fracture, these conditions can all be resolved with good medical attention, rehab, and training. But worn out cartlidge - it only gets worse. There's no fix beyond transplant surgery. That's why there are knee and hip replacements. If it's a cartlidge or ongoing degenerative condition, you pass. Too much risk. Edited April 29, 2011 by DML2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloNewman Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I am taking a anatomy and physiology class this semester and the rule of thumb regarding cartilage.....once cartilage is gone it does not heal and regenerate like other tissues in the body due to the fact it is not vascularized (ie: blood can reach the affected tissue and repair). Once it is gone it is gone. If Bowers has a lack of cartilage in his knee joint that is causing bone on bone friction and degeneration and possible arthritis...you can pretty much call him damaged goods. His knee will never return to normal since it is the cartilage that protects and covers the bones in the knee joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I am taking a anatomy and physiology class this semester and the rule of thumb regarding cartilage.....once cartilage is gone it does not heal and regenerate like other tissues in the body due to the fact it is not vascularized (ie: blood can reach the affected tissue and repair). Once it is gone it is gone. If Bowers has a lack of cartilage in his knee joint that is causing bone on bone friction and degeneration and possible arthritis...you can pretty much call him damaged goods. His knee will never return to normal since it is the cartilage that protects and covers the bones in the knee joint. You mean to tell me that in this day and age ACME hasn't come up with something to take the place of cartilage and jam in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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