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Bills would have picked Shakir much earlier if, if, if, if

I bet he chews his gum with his mouth open. He’s also the guy that would leave a waiter a crappy tip after running him/her hard.

I didn’t see that until now….. that’s absolutely insane

The idea of Tre as a safety was previously laughed at because he was not tough enough and a bad tackler. Though he’s diminished as a cover man, his tackling has somehow improved as he’s acquired that old man strength. Time to revisit Tre as safety.

You realize that you could just not come in this thread, right?

(it was an old joke)

Don't misunderstand... I think Josh deserves to be the MVP frontrunner. I also think he should have won MVP before last year. If there were a stat that could truly evaluate how valuable a player is to his team, Josh would score high. But there isn't - despite some claims from analytic sites that there is. It's cool that the NFL has an MVP award but the process for picking a winner is inevitably flawed.

This just isn’t true. If the opponents stay in a cover 2 shell - for example last week Miami ran that about 80% of the time per cover 1 - then the running doesn’t open up the deep pass. They refused to adjust so we just kept taking the gains. Running opens up the deep pass if the opponent decides to bring safeties down to stop the run, but teams are more afraid of Josh beating them deep and or hitting 15-25 yard passes than forcing the Bills to take the runs and passes and move down the field in small chunks. In the 80s and 90s teams made that adjustment all the time - now teams like the Bills don’t care if you move the ball slowly - they figure you will make a mistake before us. We will see once the all 22 gets reviewed, but it looks like the Bills tried a few deep shots that killed their drives when just taking the underneath stuff was working. The Int was a perfect throw - the timing and angle was great, but the defense allowed a safety to get there right at the mesh point and make the pick. The only way it will be successful is if the Bills keep it up and teams decide they have to press the short areas. They it opens up windows behind, but that has been very rare so far. I don’t think they need a lot of work - they need teams to try something different. If the Past Josh wasn’t patient and this defense worked. Just go back to the KC game I the playoffs in Buffalo 2 years ago. Just before the missed kick - Josh had Diggs open for a first down and didn’t take it. He held it 3 beats longer tried to fit it into the endzone and Jones got enough pressure to kill it. He and the offense is at their best taking what is there and being patient and when a team like KC comes up - they need to keep doing it. The big plays come when you get Spags to blitz and they cover down - that seems to be when guys like Knox sneak through for he big gains.

Note, he said IN 2 years, not every day for the next 2 years.

Thats fair, and he also might not. I just think people forget the paths of many of our best players here started as equally slow or similarly as slow when they had guys playing ahead of them too and didn't feel they had to rush the younger guy out. And as fans, it can be frustrating when we think the guys out there are not doing that great of a job as it is. Like I was so frustrated watching McKenzie keep starting at slot when he was terrible at it instead of just getting the rookies feet wet in Shakir. But, its just how this regime has done things in a lot of these cases, and in some it worked out (Shakir, Bernard, etc) and some it didn't (Elam, Boogie, etc). All good bud

She asked a fluff question and delivered it with an undesirable tone- imo

Maybe reporters need to stop saying dumb crap? I get the angry stare makes him look rude, but c'mon... Professionalism is a two way street. People liked it when Popovich mocked dumb comments from the NBA media, but now this is a problem because the sideline reporter is a woman. And yes, he needs to handle himself better, but people would've laughed if the reporter was a dude.

Offense: 69 Defense: 420 Overall: 4 - 0

New England is 2-2. They had 4 fumbles and 1 INT against the Steelers and lost by 7 points. Easily could be 3-1 if they only turned it over 3 times instead of 5. That lost to the Steelers may be the difference as to which team makes a Wildcard. Maye is young and still learning and their D is not bad at all. This game is not a "fall off the couch" win for the Bills. The Bills WILL take this game very seriously and that will be the only way they end up with a win.

We won the game, 4-0, 👍👍👍👍👍👍🍸🚬🍸🚬🍸🚬🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸, I can’t keep this up much longer, 🤣

Sammy Baugh also played DB and led the league in Interceptions (catching them not throwing them).

Thats right, cause Bill Clinton was surrounded by Bush.

No offense, but this is not really accurate: 2023 the Eagles had the 10th pick in the draft when they moved up 1 pick to the 9th pick to get Jalen Carter who fell in their lap. 2022 the Eagles had the 15th pick in the draft when they moved up 2 spots to steal Jordan Davis I think most people would agree that both those 2 guys were the biggest contributions to their defensive turn around and both were top 13 picks in recent years where the Eagles had much earlier picks than us. NOTE: For comparison sake (3rd round DE's) 2024 the Eagles took a DE in the 3rd round who has 1.5 sacks and 14 tackles for his career between last year and this year. KC took a DE in the 3rd round this year - he has 0 sacks and 3 tackles. So apples to apples with KC and Phi on 3rd DE's, neither KC or PHI getting much of anything out theirs thus far either. BONUS - In 2023 KC actually used a 1st round pick on a DE who averages 1.5 sacks and 12 tackles a season and hasn't played in 2025.

I agree -- and I'll even take it a step farther. Those first two drives seemed so effortless for the Bills that I think Josh (and perhaps Brady) started taking the Saints defense for granted and playing in almost complacent fashion. Josh started holding the ball too long, which was not wise given the struggles our backup RT started having in the 2nd quarter. I started noticing this on the play immediately BEFORE the INT, which was a "cute" attempt by Josh to toss a lollypop "touch" pass that should have been an easy completion if he just fires the ball to a wide open Kincaid instead of allowing the rookie DB to recover and make the play. The INT itself was poorly advised, throwing into double coverage. On the very next series, no one mentions the pass that SHOULD have been intercepted but was fortunately dropped. That was set up by Josh, again, holding the ball too long and allowing the DE (I think it was Jordan) to get past RVD and interrupt Josh's delivery of the ball. It didn't seem like he felt that backside pressure (unusual for him). Not complaining about Josh, of course, as he played much better in the 2nd half after looking all world in the 1st quarter. But I am sure that there is plenty in that 2nd quarter that he and the coaching staff will want to address via film review.

To be fair to Davis IIRC he also looked pedestrian last season with limited touches, and then one game (at Jets?) when Cook was out he got 15+ carries and looked really good. So maybe he just needs some rhythm. On a related topic, I re-watched 3 snaps before that 4th down failure and here are my thoughts: 1st down - Cook makes 6 yards out of nothing, should've been 2 yards max. 2nd down - Davis runs hard and gains 3 yards, but I think he missed the first hole between McGovern and Cybo and it would've been first down if he just hit that hole. 3rd down - Johnson has no vision at all and just runs to the wall of bodies. One simple cut to outside and he gains 1st down no problem. Cooks gets that one for sure. Can anybody have a look on 2nd and 3rd downs if they agree?

I would be more worried if this was a 1 o'clock game. The Bills don't wilt on prime time. I think it will be a game but the Bills and Josh play best under the big lights. Bills; 5-0

I think he’s doing a great job replacing Von’s production.

Yes, it's hard to win, but HOW they play in those wins does matter. They can't keep letting significantly inferior teams hang around on them. We've seen seasons like this before, and the same posts pop up every time. "A win's a win, so stop complaining." As I said in another thread, that's fine for week 4. Just stacking wins is good enough for this point in the season. But that 13-3 record in 2022 didn't mean anything come playoff time. All those issues we saw in those games immediately reared their head in the WC game against the Dolphins, then got them demolished against the Bengals. And for those that paid attention to HOW they were winning, it wasn't surprising.

Sure, a player switched off, but your position coaches are supposed to be all over that too. They should know at any given moment of the game who is in on each package. Agree McD did the right thing call timeout.