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A couple edits following the last week, the bolded are additions while the underlined have been removed. Trying to forecast what moves they’ll make with Hoecht and Ogun returning is surprisingly difficult IMO barring trade or injury (which they may be counting on).

What about it?

I checked the calendar and I can say with quit certainty it has been about 3 years since the debut of episode one aired. Hard Knocks should be everyday at about 10 pm.

I don’t know if I would say expected as much as I would say hoped. players with elite physical profiles and proof of concept that they can utilize those gifts aren’t late first round pick prospects. The Bills clearly like to take shots on physical specimens that they hope they can coach up and refine. Josh, Edmunds, Elam, Hairston, Greg. Josh most importantly worked out the best there. But you are right that most of them aren’t really even too often probowlers, as low of a bar as that is, and as much as you’d expect with how much physical talent they have. That’s why I am for chasing Parsons with multiple firsts, if necessary. Sure, the next Greg Rousseau type guy might hit massively and be a top 8 EDGE, but we don’t have 3 years to develop them and the odds of it happening at all are quite small.

Yes, the same people will gripe until we win a Super Bowl. They don’t care about the regular season we enjoy. Even most of the “one before I die” crowd will then gripe until we win another. The wins are all on Josh, and any shortcomings are the result of Beane and McD. It’s laughably predictable. Me? I’m with you, looking forward to this season expecting to be entertained with some degree of optimism. It will take a combination of things to come together to win it all, but I think we are well positioned.

That all might be true. It probably is true. but does Josh need McDermott now?

Buy AOL and Myspace So lets see - you mean the defense that even McD said somewhere between 0 and 1 on a scale of 1-10 was spent actually game planning for this game? Or do you mean the starters whose priority is not to go hard but to get a feel for contact and game speed while trying to not get hurt like Taron almost did going too hard? Drawing conclusions from the first preseason game is about as realistic as the emails you get from Prince's in Africa who need your help to get their money to the US.

How do you know!?!?!

The problem is you're discounting McDermott's impact on Josh getting to that elite level of talent. Having good coaching, and culture is important to young quarterbacks. That doesnt exist here without McDermott.

So insightful. This is true of any clinical test. And what happens when you set threshold to maximize sensitivity? Specificity? You set them where you believe they’ll be most beneficial…

Agreed. Health is #1 for sure. I was more alluding to if he looks good and back to form in the post I had quoted.

Could be worse, our starting LT could get beat on a rep by a highly regarded rookie DE… ohhhh wait, never mind we’re doomed

Jesus. Preseason, zero game plan, starters probably told to go easy. And then the scrubs came in. Who cares if there are sacks in preseason. You guys are a bunch of whiners.

Eat a peanut butter sandwich (I'm allergic).

If you're old and over 50, Kevin Gallagher and @Ol_TimeFootball are two of the best follows on X. Heck, if you're under 50, check them out too, if you can put down your Madden controller...

I'm listening... I can agree to disagree, respectfully. Keep in mind, the outcome of the game in total wasn't what I was concerned about, it was the defense lo0oking every bit the same recycled garbage from last year.

I am shocked AJE did not receive a vote. He is dissed on here continuously. I am afraid to respond that I don't think he is that bad.

Ugh...on most folks assumptions on the hard $. Guy does one little tweet and we are dead set he wants huge Barkley money. I admit I don't know how this will turn out or where it is. My honest guess is the Bills offer / ball park is 8-10 million. Cook wanted 12-14....but maybe now w Williams deal things are getting clearer. Bills just don't overpay guys. Especially lately. The bottom line is he's not a 3 down back like Williams. Can't block well. It's also very possible Bills strategic plan is just not to pay him. God knows. I'm honestly not sure. I definitely want them to get a deal done though.

He hasn't asked to be paid like Barkley. He asked high because that is normal for any negotiations. Also we have no idea what his agent actually asked for. That is important to keep in mind. We also have no idea what Shakir would have asked for had he not been resigned. Shakir has accounted for 9 touchdowns in his career about a third of Cook's. Cook deserves more money than shakir because he is a better player and produces more. He is better than Williams whether or not he plays all 3 downs also. He is a unique playmaker and is a perfect fit with this team. IMO, he should have been paid before Shakir and then they could have gone to Shakir with his deal. Giving Cook 3 or 4 years at 12 or 13 million is not going to stop the team from doing business with the guys they want to keep going forward.

Now do the defense

To be fair I’ve seen many posters take one side or the other and portray the other as the unreasonable “bad guy”. Based on the other deals that Bean has done and Cook’s representation I’ve been of the opinion that it is more likely that the Bills are more in line with the market than Cook’s agent. That all said, none of us know what the Bills have offered or what Cook’s agent has asked for. We don’t know which - or even if either - is being unreasonable. Sometimes there’s just an unbridgeable gap and a team and player have to find a way through the season. Hopefully that’s not the case and they still come to an agreement before the season starts. Also I’m not worried about this being a true problem until it gets to week one.

no you dont understand it's reverse psychology, this is actually the greatest D line that's ever existed, but they'll keep pool sharking the opposition year after year and lull them into a sense of complacency then around 2040 BOOM they'll get a sack

I don't think it's that, I think it's about his health. If he holds up the entire season I could see them offering him a market contract to stay another 3 years. If he doesn't, he'll have to decide what's best for his career and might end up taking less to stay put.

True in more ways than one

How many snaps did Coleman get ?