Bruffalo Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, ***** said: God I hope hochuli isn’t reffing our eagles game again. If I recall correctly, he swung about 30 points to the eagles against us a few years ago with bad calls. And it’s hard to win when the ref gives your opponent 30 points He's about as close to a perfect example of referee bias as you get in the NFL. He's the only referee team that Allen has a negative W-L record with. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Drake Maye goes 5 for 12 for 42 yards with a INT and 3 bad sacks in the 2nd half, but he blames the officials lol. Thats amazing Same thing on the Pats* message board. 42 pages of people bitching about the refs 1 1 Quote
Steptide Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, 34-78-83 said: also, turning your head around is not a thing in the rules that helps determine if Pi or not. So many fans assume that it is... Maybe not, but they're trying to make this argument that the Pats defender was playing the ball, give me a break. They say tre's interception shoulda been dpi, but on that play, both players WERE playing for the ball 1 1 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago What I don't like about the whining is the insinuation that if no holds are called on the Bills the officiating is bad (never mind that he was wrong and a hold was called). He is setting the tone or expectation that every reffing crew should find at least one hold on the Bills or something is wrong - no example or particular situation - just a general, if no hold is called the refs did a poor job. 1 Quote
waterglass Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Lost a lot of respect for Vrabel with this. The day after a loss he is pointing the finger at the officials instead of at himself and his team for blowing a 21 point lead. And these weren't even particularly controversial calls. I also lost all respect for this guy. I thought he was a great coach but hes actually a loser after hearing about his ongoing bitching. I also read two articles from two New England Patriots Sports Reporters. In my opinion they must be the most corrupt reporters on the face of the earth. On the Coleman interference they used a screen shot picture that didnt have the player tugging on Colemans jersey. Even Josh Allen could see the holding. It wasnt minor as the tug in my opinion watching it on replay held Colemans progress to the ball. Hes the story link https://985thesportshub.com/2025/12/14/youve-got-to-let-us-play-patriots-sound-off-on-controversial-penalties/ In that same link they also complained about the Khalil Shakir interference. Same exact penalty was called against Buffalo versus the Chiefs in last years Championship game. One reporter wrote that the flag "came out late" The hell it did as on replay the flag came out while the ball was still in the air as the defensive back, ran into Shakir. It wasnt even close in my opinion. So I read two stories that go on as the facts to remain in the public arena forever as gospel truth as it happened. Well both were not written as an opinion piece, they were an absolute misrepresentation of the facts and as to what happened. I never realized that the Sports reporters in New England were that corrupted. Then again the Patriots never cheat. Well, birds of a feather flock together. 6 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: What I don't like about the whining is the insinuation that if no holds are called on the Bills the officiating is bad (never mind that he was wrong and a hold was called). He is setting the tone or expectation that every reffing crew should find at least one hold on the Bills or something is wrong - no example or particular situation - just a general, if no hold is called the refs did a poor job. No mention of the hold on their 2nd half misdirection run for a touchdown. I saw one of our D linemen jersey held around the stomach as he was right near the runner before the runner did a 180. Quote
Mod_Squad_Reject Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I generally liked Vrabel, but come on coach, let’s not talk about blown or missed calls. That door swings both ways, unfortunately this just makes him look like a whinny simp. Quote
ScotSHO Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I love that posters here have just now lost respect for this goof. He works the refs all game, every game. Same garbage in TENN. He's super annoying and a drag on the spirit of the game. He spends 2:1 time talking to refs vs. his own team. 2 Quote
Mighty Taco Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Luckily for me, I never had respect for him or their OC who has the most punchable face in the NFL. Quote
eball Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Does he seriously sit with those whiney babies alongside him every week and agree New England is the bestest and everyone else smells? Can't imagine Belichick did that. It's nauseating as they sit there with their homer takes and kiss his a$$. Gawd, I hate Baaaahzzton. 1 Quote
skibum Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago This guy played for the Pats in the Tuck Rule game. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I listened to this spot this morning (live in NE). I did not take it as whining and I thought it was interesting he mentioned the Bills lead the lead in holding penalties. His take on that is that is by design, he is probably right. The Chiefs do this in the playoffs on defense, dare the officials to call penalties. Quote
Mark Vader Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: Someone should ask Mike Vrabel how he feels about Vedarian Lowe getting away with a blatant hands to the face on Groot, right in front of the Referee. This was a critical third and 3 on the drive into the half that they ended up getting 3 points out of. This was a direct violation of Rule 12 sections 1-2 illegal use of hands/facemask. watch the play....Lowe's lefthand goes right to groots face and pushes it up and he just leaves it there the whole time. Should have been third and thirteen. Funny how Vrable just missed this one! This missed call resulted directly in points for New England. This happened twice. I saw Groot take another hands to the face, and there was no penalty called. 1 Quote
blacklabel Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Kinda always thought Vrabel was a doofus, yesterday solidified it for me, tho. That schmuck running down the sideline to try and mark where a punt went out. Just reminded me of some kinda goody two shoes dweeb in high school. He's all like, "Ope, yessir Mr. Official, I seent it, it went out right here! Yessir, right here where I have my big stupid foot! Aren't I just the bestest lil' helper?" Go get shoved in a locker, nerd. 1 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago This reminds me so much of mahomes…I’ve always thought vrabel was a punchable-face meathead but had some level of begrudging respect for him. He absolutely lost all that the way he has been handling this loss though. with mahomes it was the offensive Offside whining that did it for me. Never looked at him the same way again Quote
Nuncha Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Drake Maye goes 5 for 12 for 42 yards with a INT and 3 bad sacks in the 2nd half, but he blames the officials lol. Thats amazing Should have been 2 ints had Poyer not dropped the ball that hit him in the gut. By the way, why does Vrabel always look like he has to poop? Edited 9 hours ago by Nuncha 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 16 minutes ago, blacklabel said: Kinda always thought Vrabel was a doofus, yesterday solidified it for me, tho. That schmuck running down the sideline to try and mark where a punt went out. Just reminded me of some kinda goody two shoes dweeb in high school. He's all like, "Ope, yessir Mr. Official, I seent it, it went out right here! Yessir, right here where I have my big stupid foot! Aren't I just the bestest lil' helper?" Go get shoved in a locker, nerd. I'm pretty sure vrable was the one shoving nerds in lockers Quote
Neo Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago The SpyGate, DeflateGate, franchise worrying about rules. Oh, the irony. Quote
billykay Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: Oh and Vrabel is wrong - the Bills DID have an offensive hold called, which wiped out a TD. I guess Vrabel doesn't remember it because our QB managed to overcome it and his QB couldn't overcome s***. That holding penalty was BS. our guy simply overpowered the D player and put him into the ground. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 1 minute ago, billykay said: That holding penalty was BS. our guy simply overpowered the D player and put him into the ground. That will get called 100% of the time in the NFL That's not a pancake.. that will get called every single time Edited 8 hours ago by Buffalo716 1 Quote
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